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Whoremoans
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Have you ever considered that using any drug for an extended period of time will create some tolerance? Maybe the nolvadex isn't working anymore because you've been taking it so long. Your body probably requires a higher dosage to produce the same effect now.
Yeah possibly.
I am switching to 12.5mg clomid for a month because tamoxifen just isnt cutting it anymore. It doesnt give me any sort of strength or energy benefit or feel good effect.
Whoremoans
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Blast 500mg test c a week. That'll give you all the wood, confidence, and libido you could ever need. You'll make awesome progress in the gym to.
Tyler, you should try testosterone only for 10-14 days and then nolva for 10-14 days, then nothing at all for 10-14 days and repeat.
Not a bad idea.
Right now I'm doing 12.5mg Clomid twice per week with a very low dose of gel and it's working but Tamoxifen stopped working for some reason.
If/when Clomid stops working ie providing androgenic benefits on my strength energy and libdio then I want to switch to Torem if I can find a decent source for it. Then I can cycle back to tamoxifen.
I liked Tamoxifen way better but 12.5mg Clomid is somewhat tolerable. However, I don't understand why my body developed a resistance to Tamoxifen after only a few months.
My body seems to form a resistance to higher T level whether it's endogenous or exogenous. Beyond a certain T level it goes nope!!!! And stops accepting it and I get no benefits anymore.
Happened with the gel after a few years and now Tamoxifen.
My body seems to form a resistance to higher T level whether it's endogenous or exogenous. Beyond a certain T level it goes nope!!!! And stops accepting it and I get no benefits anymore.
Happened with the gel after a few years and now Tamoxifen.
You're not unusual in that respect! That's why I suggested cycling test and serms. You won't form a resistance to anything after just 2 weeks. You can take testosterone continuously at a low dose for 2 weeks and you should not notice much, if any shut down after switching to nolva for the next weeks. Normally you only get the libido boosting effects from test for 2-3 weeks anyway, so if your goal is just to increase libido, I don't see a reason to take it any longer than that.
I read a thread on here of a guy who tried all sorts of trt but had best results regarding mood and wellbeing on low dose tamoxifen. He only complained of libido but who gives a shit about libido if you feel great! Thats why theres cialis or viagra
Do you have a link to that thread, Jay?
Hi Tyler81,
I read you post way back in 2011 where you mentioned that 5HTP, Fish Oil & D3 helped you a lot but that post was not updated after Nov 2011. Did 5HTP stop working?
Did you figure out the root cause of you problem as all these began when you were fairly young?
Hey, just an update in this thread.
Tamoxifen and Clomid stopped working for me so I went back on the gel which sucked. Then I tried Natesto which is a nasal preparation. Still on that but decided I felt better on serms -- had my nuts, better orgasms, better mental clarity and consistency.
So yesterday I did a 2000ius Beta Hcg injection to boost my testicles.
And now I am going to take Raloxefene 15mg mon to fri for a few months.
My theory is that I need to CYCLE the serms cause my body seems to become used to a medicine and then rejects it. Fucking wierd. I should probably get my auto immune stuff checked again. I wonder if I have lupus or some auto immune disorder.
Anyways, so I have only been shut down for a few months (june and july basically) so I did a booster Beta Hcg injection 2000ius yesterday and nuts are already hanging lower.
Will switch to Raloxefene for a few months.
After Raloxefene I am going to switch to Toremifene.
And then back to Tamoxifen.
Tamoxifen and Clomid stopped working for me so I went back on the gel which sucked. Then I tried Natesto which is a nasal preparation. Still on that but decided I felt better on serms -- had my nuts, better orgasms, better mental clarity and consistency.
So yesterday I did a 2000ius Beta Hcg injection to boost my testicles.
And now I am going to take Raloxefene 15mg mon to fri for a few months.
My theory is that I need to CYCLE the serms cause my body seems to become used to a medicine and then rejects it. Fucking wierd. I should probably get my auto immune stuff checked again. I wonder if I have lupus or some auto immune disorder.
Anyways, so I have only been shut down for a few months (june and july basically) so I did a booster Beta Hcg injection 2000ius yesterday and nuts are already hanging lower.
Will switch to Raloxefene for a few months.
After Raloxefene I am going to switch to Toremifene.
And then back to Tamoxifen.
I still take Fish oil for mood. Fishoil is good for mood but you need to take enough of it and a good quality fish oil too. I take enteric coated one so I dont get the fishy burps.
Youre right that it takes about 2(ish) weeks for my body to shutdown from exgoneous T.
Rather than do the cycling you suggested, I am going to stick to serms only and then boost with like half tube of T gel 1-2x week for sexy times. lol.
I wasnt having any issues with shut down with that low of a gel dose but i was getting some libido benefits (dht probably). However, once I started applying gel even two days in a row I started to feel my testicles shrink up etc.
Tyler, do you ever just think of going back on TRT and fine tuning things as best you can? I have a daily journal that documents literally every aspect of everything I am doing. Morning wood, what I ate, supplements taken, doses of Test, HCG, HGH, sleep, erection frequency and speed, libido, all scaled 1-10 and it has allowed me with the combination of my labs to identify markers to tweak things. A hell of a lot more than any medical doctor could ever do. Is it perfect? No, I still struggle with libido issues at times, probably 50% of the time, but it's improving and my physique has never been better, sleep, overall health has improved dramatically. Sex drive is hit and miss, but on the good days, it's good.
I just see you going back and forth so much here. I wonder why not just go on TRT and take the good with bad and hopefully eventually you'll land on good. I made my decision and I will never go back to natty. I will live or die by my choice, so for me, failure is not an option.
I just see you going back and forth so much here. I wonder why not just go on TRT and take the good with bad and hopefully eventually you'll land on good. I made my decision and I will never go back to natty. I will live or die by my choice, so for me, failure is not an option.
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