Maybe, but when i say heaping, I mean heaping. overflowing the top of that spoon. Ive seen him do one spoonful like that in my office.
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Maybe, but when i say heaping, I mean heaping. overflowing the top of that spoon. Ive seen him do one spoonful like that in my office.
@tengtren
So you got 3 different guides to getting big and pinning gear, but I think you need to write a comprehensive guide to surviving and battling withdrawals for me lol.
"Ten Grams-Fighting the Good Fight"
Totally kidding...but that would be badass though to have a thread full of peoples input on how to ease the pain of withdrawals
So you got 3 different guides to getting big and pinning gear, but I think you need to write a comprehensive guide to surviving and battling withdrawals for me lol.
"Ten Grams-Fighting the Good Fight"
Totally kidding...but that would be badass though to have a thread full of peoples input on how to ease the pain of withdrawals
tengtren
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That just might happen, I'm a recovered addict (benzos)
I just started a new thread in General discussion bro. Check it out. But I still want you to do a Ten Grams Version. You put a good and funny twist on shit
It was a tablespoon. I went home and confirmed, but when i talked to his helper this morning, he used one of the plastic spoons that are in the work truck. So probably not the 22.5g i weighed, still way more than he should be taking. Just wanted to follow up on that.
valuum
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What was your dosing protocol for benzos?
My Ex's was "blow through 90 1mg klonpin in 4 days". I've never met a person who could binge xanax harder. She never used everyday and got withdrawals though.
notanothersnake
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That's a lot! I ate 20 purple xanax in an hour a couple times, when I was 16 yrs old. Lost about a weeks memory each time
tengtren
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I would get a fuck ton of extras, wake up take 4-6 2mg bars, mid day 5 more and then 5+ more in the evening every damn day
tengtren
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lol no dosing protocol just however many I pulled out of the bag I chewed up. I fucking ate those little rectangles like candy I loved that alprazolam taste. I hate talking about this shit it was such a waste of time and money and I hurt myself and ruined other people's lives caused kids to have seizures in front of their parents and made their families worry about them and my own it's so fucked up
Sorry you all but I won't be posting about anything involving addiction, rec drugs, or even recovery anymore. I anyone wants to pm me asking me questions you can I'll help with what I think I can but no more
I've completely moved on from that and altered my thoughts to as if it has never happened, that's how I never relaps
MisterSuperGod
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i feel you, brother. i don't like to get into the finer details about my past addiction either. It's over, i'm never going back and the details are best left in the past where they belong.
The Terminator
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I’ve done that, longer than a year tho. Luckily I only needed to be hospitalized for wd for like 5 days, and within a week or so after I was physically recovered, as in able to walk without any weakness etc. What a waste of time, at least opioids and esp opiates would give a for a time high, although still a waste of time, benzos were just a less toxic feeling version of booze that felt slightly better imo, still used them mostly in a foolish attempt at boosting the effect of opioids.
Stinkfinger1112
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anyone else find it a little too coincidental that most of us using AAS have addiction or past addiction issues? Just food for thought.
movingiron88
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There is no doubt most addicts and ex addicts are willing to participate in risky behavior at a higher rate then non addicts.
I believe anyone that says AAS is not addictive is only fooling themselves. It just typically doesn’t come with the same consequences as other drugs.
I had never heard of kratom before the dea wanted to make it a schedule 1 drug. in anticipation of the ban I bought 7+ kilos, 2 of which were concentrates. I started with the recommended dose, and went from there. I have, in the past used it for "prolonged" periods of time, iow, I abused it.
if coming off kratom is in any analogous to coming of "dope", ie heroin, other opiates, it should all be a piece of cake. like for me, trying to not drink coffee.
a lot of people seem to like to compare kratom to opiates, where as Ive always found it stimulating. at too high a dose it just make me sick.
as far as bodybuilding and ped uses, I would use it as a mild stimulant and appetite suppressant. and overall, I just felt "better".
if coming off kratom is in any analogous to coming of "dope", ie heroin, other opiates, it should all be a piece of cake. like for me, trying to not drink coffee.
a lot of people seem to like to compare kratom to opiates, where as Ive always found it stimulating. at too high a dose it just make me sick.
as far as bodybuilding and ped uses, I would use it as a mild stimulant and appetite suppressant. and overall, I just felt "better".
valuum
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Drug addiction and that type of brain fits in perfectly with the Rich Piana/Boston Loyd "more is better" line of thinking with AAS. I have to be VERY careful to hold back with AAS. That dopefiend part of my brain says stuff like "DO TREN YOUR FIRST CYCLE"
movingiron88
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@Jrock83 how are you doing? Over the WD's yet? If so how long did it last and how did you feel.
Thanks for sharing brotha.
Thanks for sharing brotha.
Bro the really hard physical part was over after about 4 or 5 days, and it was pretty bad. However, it's not as bad as kicking H or Opiates though. Yesterday was 2 weeks, but I'm still struggling. I feel like I'm in this post acute stage...kinda like I had with some other stuff I came off of. My motivation was at a 10 on Kratom, and now it's at a 2. My energy was always at a 9 or 10 on Kratom, and now that's at a 2. So things are tough. Pretty anxious and depressed feeling most of the time...so I hope it passes soon. I've tried a shit ton of vitamins to no avail. It's just part of withdrawal man...part of being an addict I guess. Each day seems to get easier, but it's still fuckin hard. I recommend to anyone taking any form of substance, to never let your brain know what it feels like to have that substance every day. Never let your body know what it's like to depend on it...because once it's gone, so is the person you were on it. Thanks for asking bro. Appreciate it.
@movingiron88
I just realized that I didnt really give you my experience, as it was pretty vague. I wasnt sure if you were asking for yourself or someone you know...so here goes
Day 1-5: I had typical physical withdrawals like the ones you would have with opiates. Sneezing, watery eyes, extreme fatigue, sweats, chills, diarrhea, night sweats...the whole nine yards. Day 1 and 2 felt pretty good honestly, but it was from that initial motivation to quit. That wears off, and you have to fight through.
Day 6-10: This is where I felt the physical withdrawals lift, but the extreme cravings kicked in, and energy in my mind and body became nonexistent. I tried supplements, working out hard as fuck...everything, and nothing will take it away. So again, this is something you have to fight through.
Day 11-present: At this point I feel like the real me is trying to break out, but the wall is a very thick one. I think I'm in what they call the PAWS phase(Post Acute Withdrawal Syndrome). Being on Kratom for so long, it fucks your body's hormone levels up, it fuck with all of your dopamine receptors, and at this point in recovery, all your body is trying to do is reach baseline, or homeostasis. I feel like I am suffering from adrenal fatigue. I e put my body through hell the past 10 years, so the only true "clean time" I had was the year and a half I was in prison. At this point, my body is just saying FUCK YOU.
All in all, Kratom has it's time and place...and I am still an advocate for its use. Its helped so many people come off of hard drugs, its helped people with chronic pain, and even people with extreme mental disorders. It truly is an awesome plant. Unfortunately, I don't see any place for it in an addict's life once it's used for getting off of your DOC. All you end up doing is replacing one with the other...no bueno.
Anytime you put your body through hell and stay on anything for too long, reaching baseline is a motherfucker. In the end, we make the choice, and when you decide youre done...YOU WILL HAVE TO PAY THE FUCKIN PIPER. I promise that.
I just realized that I didnt really give you my experience, as it was pretty vague. I wasnt sure if you were asking for yourself or someone you know...so here goes
Day 1-5: I had typical physical withdrawals like the ones you would have with opiates. Sneezing, watery eyes, extreme fatigue, sweats, chills, diarrhea, night sweats...the whole nine yards. Day 1 and 2 felt pretty good honestly, but it was from that initial motivation to quit. That wears off, and you have to fight through.
Day 6-10: This is where I felt the physical withdrawals lift, but the extreme cravings kicked in, and energy in my mind and body became nonexistent. I tried supplements, working out hard as fuck...everything, and nothing will take it away. So again, this is something you have to fight through.
Day 11-present: At this point I feel like the real me is trying to break out, but the wall is a very thick one. I think I'm in what they call the PAWS phase(Post Acute Withdrawal Syndrome). Being on Kratom for so long, it fucks your body's hormone levels up, it fuck with all of your dopamine receptors, and at this point in recovery, all your body is trying to do is reach baseline, or homeostasis. I feel like I am suffering from adrenal fatigue. I e put my body through hell the past 10 years, so the only true "clean time" I had was the year and a half I was in prison. At this point, my body is just saying FUCK YOU.
All in all, Kratom has it's time and place...and I am still an advocate for its use. Its helped so many people come off of hard drugs, its helped people with chronic pain, and even people with extreme mental disorders. It truly is an awesome plant. Unfortunately, I don't see any place for it in an addict's life once it's used for getting off of your DOC. All you end up doing is replacing one with the other...no bueno.
Anytime you put your body through hell and stay on anything for too long, reaching baseline is a motherfucker. In the end, we make the choice, and when you decide youre done...YOU WILL HAVE TO PAY THE FUCKIN PIPER. I promise that.
movingiron88
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Dam brotha, thanks for taking the time to write an in depth response. I hear what you are saying. A lot of us have taken "things" for so long it's hard to think what life feels like completely clean. Trt not included of course. You are showing a lot of strength and giving people the courage to pursue sobriety on their own. Good luck and stay strong!
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