Creatine, who are you?

[PrinceLambo]

Are y’all fans of creatine? I have used both creatine monohydrate and hcl, and may squeeze out an extra rep while looking a tad fuller thanks to the water retention.
I don’t feel that the positive outweighs the cost or temporary bloat (looking at you, monohydrate). Especially since there’s no guarantee of that extra rep, might as well be placebo.

What do y’all think?

 

[Xlgx]

Creapure. There is no substitute ...

 

[PrinceLambo]

Creapure. There is no substitute ...

Isn’t that just creatine monohydrate?

 

[BigNattyDaddy]

Never used creatine

 

[PrinceLambo]

Never used creatine

Any particular reason?

 

[Mac11wildcat]

Creatine is one of if not the most studied, and verified, sports supplements on the market. It works. It works for us, for endurance athletes, everyone.

Nothing wrong with supplementing with it and hopefully we’re beyond the dumb shit I heard in the early 2000s about it being dangerous.

 

[Xlgx]

Isn’t that just creatine monohydrate?

Bingo!

 

[big unit]

Totally unnecessary IMO...particularly when on AAS.

 

[Iron Frenchie]

I remember going to the principals office cause these Russians in my gym class told on me for using creatine probably cause I was a lot stronger then them. This was back around 2003. The principal told me how dangerous it was and how I couldn’t bring it to school. In the mean time I had a buddy that was 16 years old in the same class blasting 600mg test. He was crushing school records and killing it on the football field. He just laughed at me cause we both knew it was fine.

 

[Perrin Aybara]

I used it when I was natty and I felt like it helped a little. Using it with gear seems about like drinking coffee when you're on meth though.

 

[BigNattyDaddy]

Any particular reason?

No particular reason, but like the other guys said, there's not much of a need for it if you're cycling. Even for natural guys, it's not a necessity IMO.

 

[PrinceLambo]

Creatine is one of if not the most studied, and verified, sports supplements on the market. It works. It works for us, for endurance athletes, everyone.

Nothing wrong with supplementing with it and hopefully we’re beyond the dumb shit I heard in the early 2000s about it being dangerous.

Causes cancer /sarcasm.
I’ve heard others swear by it, I used to, though I just don’t think it much now. Is there another sign that I should be looking at and credit it with?

What’s your opinion on what others have said about it not being of importance if you’re on a cycle?

 

[Mac11wildcat]

Causes cancer /sarcasm.
I’ve heard others swear by it, I used to, though I just don’t think it much now. Is there another sign that I should be looking at and credit it with?

What’s your opinion on what others have said about it not being of importance if you’re on a cycle?

Relative to results? For sure. You’re not guna notice creatine vs not.

 

[PrinceLambo]

Totally unnecessary IMO...particularly when on AAS.

I used it when I was natty and I felt like it helped a little. Using it with gear seems about like drinking coffee when you're on meth though.

Have y’all attempted it?

 

[Perrin Aybara]

Have y’all attempted it?

I continued using it at first. I'm not really saying that it wouldn't help some very small amount, just that the money would be better spent on food or more gear in my opinion.

 

[big unit]

Have y’all attempted it?

Of course. I’ve been lifting for 31 years. I’ve tried an awful lot during that timeframe. I’ll defer to my previous post.

 

[Eman]

I disagree with it being useless while on gear... It's just not noticeable because everyone is going to chalk results up to the fact they're using GEAR.

Anavar and creatine work well together... One increases the effectiveness of the other.

Most on gear that have come to the genetics limit aren't going to get much since they're at a higher level.

 

[Hawkins]

It’s great for periods of red meat restriction or a caloric deficit in general.

 

[gr8whitetrukker]

Are y’all fans of creatine? I have used both creatine monohydrate and hcl, and may squeeze out an extra rep while looking a tad fuller thanks to the water retention.
I don’t feel that the positive outweighs the cost or temporary bloat (looking at you, monohydrate). Especially since there’s no guarantee of that extra rep, might as well be placebo.

What do y’all think?

Ive been a hard critic of creatine for a very very long time. I used it back in the early 2000's when i was just a young buck hoping to get some thing out of it that it wasnt designed to do. Which i DO think judging by your words is exactly what your hoping to get as well. I discontinued use and wrote it off as placebo and kept it that way till just last year. Thats some 18 ys give er take i wrote it off.

I started another note section in my journal to add to my already food and training journal to see on paper if creatine had any effect whatsoever. I was not judging it based on visual cosmetic cues in my body. I was judging it based on performance cues. Solid ass numbers and yes of course how i felt. I was going longer, harder and deeper in to sets with less fatigue. On cycle or off. Absolutely unequivocally made a difference in performance. Any cosmetic changes in my appearance were marginal at best and i had no concern over that this go round using creatine.

Take my experiment and add over 20yrs of creatine monohydrate being THE most studied supplement in history and winner winner chicken dinner. Can add that to whey protein as being the only 2 solid sure as shit 100% guaranteed legit supplements on the shelf. And in the supplement world that is truly some thing.

Edit
Dont take my word for it. Look at the research! Its been studied extensively in journals and universities. The secret is in how it manipulates energy(glucose)! Look it up

 

[PrinceLambo]

Ive been a hard critic of creatine for a very very long time. I used it back in the early 2000's when i was just a young buck hoping to get some thing out of it that it wasnt designed to do. Which i DO think judging by your words is exactly what your hoping to get as well. I discontinued use and wrote it off as placebo and kept it that way till just last year. Thats some 18 ys give er take i wrote it off.

I started another note section in my journal to add to my already food and training journal to see on paper if creatine had any effect whatsoever. I was not judging it based on visual cosmetic cues in my body. I was judging it based on performance cues. Solid ass numbers and yes of course how i felt. I was going longer, harder and deeper in to sets with less fatigue. On cycle or off. Absolutely unequivocally made a difference in performance. Any cosmetic changes in my appearance were marginal at best and i had no concern over that this go round using creatine.

Take my experiment and add over 20yrs of creatine monohydrate being THE most studied supplement in history and winner winner chicken dinner. Can add that to whey protein as being the only 2 solid sure as shit 100% guaranteed legit supplements on the shelf. And in the supplement world that is truly some thing.

Edit
Dont take my word for it. Look at the research! Its been studied extensively in journals and universities. The secret is in how it manipulates energy(glucose)! Look it up

Excellent post. Thank you for sharing! I don’t expect any visual changes, except bloat (minus with pure hcl), the muscles being a tad fuller was just a plus that was noticed.
Were you supplementing before working out, or in the time after? My routine has consisted of a pwo with 1.5g of creatine hcl, and 4g of a blend of creatine monohydrate and hcl within 30 minutes of finishing a workout. Though on the random weeks where I didn’t supplement, I didn’t experience a notable difference in sets to failure. Maybe more is needed pwo?