Do u need squats

Can’t stand when im at the gym and I hear young guys saying “i hate leg day” I feel like saying yeah, try leg day when the old ostio starts settling in your knee. I used to enjoy leg day...20 years ago. Was never really powerful with squats, never went above 315 for 3 but I always got good development. Now leg day=pain but I frigin refuse to not train legs. I do exactly as said by @T-Bagger , extensions, curls, leg press. I still do plenty of calf work too, that helps a lot with the “look” of your legs. Ever see a big dude with skinny or even normal size legs lol, I always said I would NEVER be that guy. Lmao.
Fortunately I’m not at that point yet where I have to give up squats, but it sucks knowing you only have a few years left when you hear the joints creaking and have to adjust your stance to stop the pain. At my gym, we have a lie down leg press, which actually simulates a squat pretty well. I have felt almost all of the same muscles worked on it as I have squats.
 
I can never give up my squats. I feel they are the base for building the entire physique. I don’t do the real heavy stuff anymore. Just 5 sets for 10. 135 and 225 for warmup and then one set of 315 and 2 of 405. I used to go up to 455 for a few reps and 495 for one or two but I’ve started holding back because of my age. I still don’t hurt in my knees and I’m really not looking to start.

Edit: But I do still leg press as heavy as I can go. I give myself that little pleasure.
 
Can’t stand when im at the gym and I hear young guys saying “i hate leg day” I feel like saying yeah, try leg day when the old ostio starts settling in your knee. I used to enjoy leg day...20 years ago. Was never really powerful with squats, never went above 315 for 3 but I always got good development. Now leg day=pain but I frigin refuse to not train legs. I do exactly as said by @T-Bagger , extensions, curls, leg press. I still do plenty of calf work too, that helps a lot with the “look” of your legs. Ever see a big dude with skinny or even normal size legs lol, I always said I would NEVER be that guy. Lmao.

psssh your moms knees have ostio
 
Squats work so much more than legs, you should spend ad much time squatting, as you do on the Bench. I bet few do.
 
If you can squat you should squat. You don't have to go super heavy or anything, but not doing the movement at all is selling yourself short. It's a great movement for developing stability and mobility as well as muscle.

Squats are just like deadlifts in that way: can you build a great physique without them? Sure. But you're missing out if you aren't using some sort of deadlift hip-hinge movement in your routine. The same goes for squatting movements.
 
Ime no. I never squat it causes me way more issues than anything tbh. Even at lower weights my hips just don’t agree. I suppose I can work on it but tbh I just hate squats. But lunges and heavy leg presses are what I replaced squats with.

My legs look pretty good for what I do.
 
I have about 10-15 racks in my gym and some of the shit I see is mind bogglinf :rolleyes: you’re probably going to a HUGE change in your legs pretty quickly adding in a squat though.

My quads have exploded since I started doing 3 x 8-10 front squats after my deadlifts.

Even if you go fairly light and just hammer out reps, nothing even comes close to the squat and its variations, IMO. People think that leg press is a "safe" alternative, but it actually concentrates a huge amount of pressure on your lower back. It also contributes way less to building core strength.
 
After reading this thread, I got my old ass back to the squat rack Wednesday. Did my usual extensions and hammy curls to loosen up some, then just kept it light. I hit 4 sets of 10 with 135. My old warmup weight, but its a start. First set I had some knee pain but it got better as the sets went. Even though I was doing the leg presses, those 4 sets of light squats definitely got my quads sore. Feels good though. Now 2 days later and my knee is feeling no worse than when I just do the leg presses. I know I just have to take it slow and add weight little by little.
 
My quads have exploded since I started doing 3 x 8-10 front squats after my deadlifts.

Even if you go fairly light and just hammer out reps, nothing even comes close to the squat and its variations, IMO. People think that leg press is a "safe" alternative, but it actually concentrates a huge amount of pressure on your lower back. It also contributes way less to building core strength.
Very much agree with nothing coming close to squats and its variations.

It's almost all i've done for quads and I dare to say that my quads are pretty developed.
 
I feel like the squat movement itself stimulates/recruits all the muscle fibers in the quads very well. You dont have to do very much weight at all, just a load that you can fail around 15-18 reps. Do about 4 sets and Then, go do leg press and feel the significant difference in how your muscle burns at the end of a set. You will be wobbling out if the gym like I just did...

I have 10 screws in my right knee/tibia from an accident 4 yrs ago, and know about osteo knee pain and it fuckin blows big time. Leg press was my go to for 3 yrs but when the knee healed up I went to lighter squats and my one chicken leg inflated back to size. Forget heavy weights, none of the pros at my gym ever fuck with heavy anything anymore, and they look great. You dont need heavy weights for anything to grow, just good tension and strong mind/muscle connection. Goes for calves too
 
I feel like the squat movement itself stimulates/recruits all the muscle fibers in the quads very well. You dont have to do very much weight at all, just a load that you can fail around 15-18 reps. Do about 4 sets and Then, go do leg press and feel the significant difference in how your muscle burns at the end of a set. You will be wobbling out if the gym like I just did...

I have 10 screws in my right knee/tibia from an accident 4 yrs ago, and know about osteo knee pain and it fuckin blows big time. Leg press was my go to for 3 yrs but when the knee healed up I went to lighter squats and my one chicken leg inflated back to size. Forget heavy weights, none of the pros at my gym ever fuck with heavy anything anymore, and they look great. You dont need heavy weights for anything to grow, just good tension and strong mind/muscle connection. Goes for calves too
I have 3 rods in my rt femur/hip, a rt knee replacement, and about 15 screws, pins, plates in my left foot. I just started squatting again because the leg press actually bothered my foot way more.
 
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