Scammehood of Pain's message when the banned me

I had dbol test e and deca from victory and their freak juice. Didn’t have a problem with anything. I can show pics of the gear I actually had. And actually put decent gains on with it. I know for sure the freak juice test and dbol was legit. The size I put on in the 6 weeks I front loaded was really good. And I always kept their freak juice on deck. That shit was fire. I made orders of just the freak juice all the time. I’ll dig up the pics. Don’t listen to everything you read bro
 
This is all I tried tho. Before they went private. I can’t speak for anything else. And trust me if it sucked... I have no problem openly saying I didn’t feel shit from it. And I won’t speak on anything I haven’t tried. But like I’ve said before. Maybe I just got lucky and got the only good batch he gave out. Maybe I got lucky and got personal stash. Idk. Maybe a mix up. Idk. Can’t speak for anyone else problems. Just what my experience was. And I have no reasons to lie. I’m not getting paid by them. Nor was I any way linked to any of them. Never a rep. Never anything. Just another person like everyone else trying to get good gear.
 

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I've got pics of my tds as well. Doesn't prove the accuracy of the compounds. Im not saying that everyone got bunk. My first order from them seemed legit, didn't pull bloods as I was a noob but did make gainz and felt good. Feelz reporting. Lmao.

He's burned quite a few people and made an ass of himself a number of times. By all means use his product, I wont knock you for that. But blindly defending a sources credibility, even though the community knows otherwise does not make you look good and will not get you in with the cool kids. Lmao.

My apologies if this seems harsh, I didn't sleep well last night and a bit moody. It's my time of the month. ;)
 
It’s been reported multiple places, including BOP that Victory selectively scammed. Some guys got stuff with hormone and some guys got bunk.

As soon as it was apparent that Flex-Tech was Victory rebranded guys shoulda STOPPED ordering. You would think they’d learn a lesson but they don’t and dudes will get scammed. Again. Rinse and repeat.
 
It’s been reported multiple places, including BOP that Victory selectively scammed. Some guys got stuff with hormone and some guys got bunk.

As soon as it was apparent that Flex-Tech was Victory rebranded guys shoulda STOPPED ordering. You would think they’d learn a lesson but they don’t and dudes will get scammed. Again. Rinse and repeat.
B-but they had Riggs reppin' for 'em!

Even unnamed vet over here called me out when I insulted Riggs :eek:
 
I've got pics of my tds as well. Doesn't prove the accuracy of the compounds. Im not saying that everyone got bunk. My first order from them seemed legit, didn't pull bloods as I was a noob but did make gainz and felt good. Feelz reporting. Lmao.

He's burned quite a few people and made an ass of himself a number of times. By all means use his product, I wont knock you for that. But blindly defending a sources credibility, even though the community knows otherwise does not make you look good and will not get you in with the cool kids. Lmao.

My apologies if this seems harsh, I didn't sleep well last night and a bit moody. It's my time of the month. ;)

But Riggs said. Riggs said it was real. Riggs said he got me bro. Riggs said it’s fiya! Riggs is the realest muthafucka around. [emoji3064]

Are you saying Riggs isn’t my bro-bud? That he’s ONLY in it for Riggs??? What? He’s NOT this kind benevolent rep? That he might actually just be a slick fast-talking salesman?
 
Yep very soon Riggs is looking for a new home so that he can get Flex-Tech into new venues...but Meso isn't the hospitable place for him or his boss so he might go to ASF but once people realize Flex-Tech is Hammer they will kick him to the curb..
 
Yep very soon Riggs is looking for a new home so that he can get Flex-Tech into new venues...but Meso isn't the hospitable place for him or his boss so he might go to ASF but once people realize Flex-Tech is Hammer they will kick him to the curb..
I don't think asf would let it fly, theyre onto that victory prime flex tech rebranding shit. But,it seems like asf has been changing in the last few months. The sponsors doubled. I got burned by a sponsor that is on both boards. Shoulda learned my lesson. It Is what it is. Just don't make big orders until blood work confirms its acceptably dosed. I'm so wary of ordering from any sponsors now I have extremely low expectations. Administering my own trt with ugl gear has been a rollercoaster. At least blasting with it its usually somewhere in supraphysiological areas. Everything from a.i.s to test is all over the place. I don't trust any of it at. My best experiences are from the smaller labs with email only contacts.
 
I don't think asf would let it fly, theyre onto that victory prime flex tech rebranding shit. But,it seems like asf has been changing in the last few months. The sponsors doubled. I got burned by a sponsor that is on both boards. Shoulda learned my lesson. It Is what it is. Just don't make big orders until blood work confirms its acceptably dosed. I'm so wary of ordering from any sponsors now I have extremely low expectations. Administering my own trt with ugl gear has been a rollercoaster. At least blasting with it its usually somewhere in supraphysiological areas. Everything from a.i.s to test is all over the place. I don't trust any of it at. My best experiences are from the smaller labs with email only contacts.
Yes alot of BOP sponsors now setting up shop on ASF but soon they will get the heave ho once there's reports of bunk garbage or any scamming. ASF runs a pretty tight ship and no sources are protected over there like they were on BOP.
 
Bet DWBO is now running around like a madman now that his little soapbox board has been shut down lol.
 
I don't think asf would let it fly, theyre onto that victory prime flex tech rebranding shit. But,it seems like asf has been changing in the last few months. The sponsors doubled. I got burned by a sponsor that is on both boards. Shoulda learned my lesson. It Is what it is. Just don't make big orders until blood work confirms its acceptably dosed. I'm so wary of ordering from any sponsors now I have extremely low expectations. Administering my own trt with ugl gear has been a rollercoaster. At least blasting with it its usually somewhere in supraphysiological areas. Everything from a.i.s to test is all over the place. I don't trust any of it at. My best experiences are from the smaller labs with email only contacts.

Post which UGLs sent you bunk or underdosed gear.

And quit with the “sponsor” they are sources or UGLs.
 
I’m not trying to get in with the cool kids. I’m just not a follower and jump in the band wagon. I’m not at all defending anyone or telling anyone to get from them. I’m just simply stating the truth of my experience. That’s all I’m doing. I’m not going to get on here and lie about the experience I had just because y’all are bashing a source. And I have a couple sources I only stick with now. And that’s it. I just wanted to try bunch of sources. And see what I liked best. I had more than enough money at the time to experiment. And I did. I just want to give honest feed back and be known for that. Not be known for just hopping on the band wagon. If I experience shit product I’ll damn sure speak up. And I have a couple times.
 
I’m not trying to get in with the cool kids. I’m just not a follower and jump in the band wagon. I’m not at all defending anyone or telling anyone to get from them. I’m just simply stating the truth of my experience. That’s all I’m doing. I’m not going to get on here and lie about the experience I had just because y’all are bashing a source. And I have a couple sources I only stick with now. And that’s it. I just wanted to try bunch of sources. And see what I liked best. I had more than enough money at the time to experiment. And I did. I just want to give honest feed back and be known for that. Not be known for just hopping on the band wagon. If I experience shit product I’ll damn sure speak up. And I have a couple times.

You're never gonna be one of the cool kids with that attitude. :D

Nah, you're doing exactly what this forum was intended for. Giving honest feedback of your experience(s) with a source.
 
I feel like he is just repeating over and over again how great all their gear is. Sending pics of their gear and providing no bloods. And repeating how he must have been lucky. I think we all get the point at this point. Opinion noted :)
 
The point is moot though since Victory is no longer around.
Yes he got ran off here some years back and his attempts at coming back were rebuffed every time. His threads here were a total trainwreck lol.

He's been on BOP ever since until now and I am sure he's scammed many people and as he was protected no one could do shit about it.
 
How do y’all know 100% that the guy who had victory and now flex tech is hammer??? Jw. I have no idea who it is. Didn’t know there was this much drama out there like this until checking out this forum. All I want to do is share my honest experiences. I’m not making a dime for it. Not getting free gear. I don’t even know who hammer is. I’ve always got gear local. For expensive as shit. Then s buddy turned me on to the forums. And even then was skeptical. Thought it was all scammers selling fake shit. Until my buddy gave me some from the forum and showed me how. I’m not at all saying some of y’all didn’t have bad experiences with certain people. Or certain people doing fucked up shit to others. I totally believe it’s true. That’s why I was skeptical of getting on the forums. And now. I’m a lot smarter about it. I just went with the popular ones. I was new. That’s how I came across them. Now I won’t take gear unless I see blood tests and or lab testing on gear. I’ve learned a lot since I first joined. And I take it serious. Cause I want to know what I’m spending my hard earned money on and know what I’m putting inside my body. I’m not here to try to be popular. Just help any way I can with being honest as possible not just taking sides. And in time. Y’all will see I’m a very straight forward person. And y’all will know if I post something negative about any kind of gear. You will know 100% it was shit. And not just hopping on the band wagon with anything. I’ll always do my best to be on top of my game helping any way possible.

I don’t want to see anyone get fucked over. I put that on my son. Wouldn’t want that on my worse enemy. Nothing worse than a fucking thief.

And a man is nothing without his word!!! I live by that. And I’ll always keep a clean face.
 
How do y’all know 100% that the guy who had victory and now flex tech is hammer??? Jw. I have no idea who it is. Didn’t know there was this much drama out there like this until checking out this forum. All I want to do is share my honest experiences. I’m not making a dime for it. Not getting free gear. I don’t even know who hammer is. I’ve always got gear local. For expensive as shit. Then s buddy turned me on to the forums. And even then was skeptical. Thought it was all scammers selling fake shit. Until my buddy gave me some from the forum and showed me how. I’m not at all saying some of y’all didn’t have bad experiences with certain people. Or certain people doing fucked up shit to others. I totally believe it’s true. That’s why I was skeptical of getting on the forums. And now. I’m a lot smarter about it. I just went with the popular ones. I was new. That’s how I came across them. Now I won’t take gear unless I see blood tests and or lab testing on gear. I’ve learned a lot since I first joined. And I take it serious. Cause I want to know what I’m spending my hard earned money on and know what I’m putting inside my body. I’m not here to try to be popular. Just help any way I can with being honest as possible not just taking sides. And in time. Y’all will see I’m a very straight forward person. And y’all will know if I post something negative about any kind of gear. You will know 100% it was shit. And not just hopping on the band wagon with anything. I’ll always do my best to be on top of my game helping any way possible.

I don’t want to see anyone get fucked over. I put that on my son. Wouldn’t want that on my worse enemy. Nothing worse than a fucking thief.

And a man is nothing without his word!!! I live by that. And I’ll always keep a clean face.
Just search and the truth will set you free...
 
This is all I tried tho. Before they went private. I can’t speak for anything else. And trust me if it sucked... I have no problem openly saying I didn’t feel shit from it. And I won’t speak on anything I haven’t tried. But like I’ve said before. Maybe I just got lucky and got the only good batch he gave out. Maybe I got lucky and got personal stash. Idk. Maybe a mix up. Idk. Can’t speak for anyone else problems. Just what my experience was. And I have no reasons to lie. I’m not getting paid by them. Nor was I any way linked to any of them. Never a rep. Never anything. Just another person like everyone else trying to get good gear.
Maybe I’m confused but the pictures you uploaded are from another shit lab called Olympia labs or something, not victory. Either way glad you had a good experience with them, but their gear definitely sucks.
 
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