There is no way we would allow foreign militarized forces into our borders, especially from China. This is some crap to try to scare people into thinking democrats are secretly Chinese communists or some other crazy conspiracy BS. So yes, rest easy sir, China is not coming to get us in our beds.
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I would like to know what those of you who support trump will do when he loses the election?
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Domestic Terrorism: A More Urgent Threat, but Weaker Laws
by Sebastian Rotella Jan. 7, 11:30 p.m. EST
But federal authorities have had more success combating international terrorists than those with a domestic focus, reflecting legal limits on investigations of American political groups, the opaque and elusive nature of the threat, and President Donald Trump’s embrace of far-right groups, experts say.
One fundamental problem is that while federal statutes provide a definition of domestic terrorism, there is not a specific law outlawing it.
The reasons date to 1975, when an inquiry by the Church Committee of the U.S. Senate documented that the FBI had abused its powers by engaging in a pattern of spying on American citizens in groups ranging from the Black Panthers to the Ku Klux Klan. The government placed strict limits on the ability of the FBI and other agencies to infiltrate and track such organizations, with new laws and rules establishing more rigorous requirements for surveillance on Americans than foreigners. Today, FBI counterterrorism officials make a point of saying they target individuals rather than groups, and violent acts rather than ideologies.
Although federal law punishes terror attacks in certain circumstances such as the use of explosives, it does not attach penalities to the crime of domestic terrorism. Authorities rarely file charges of domestic terrorism against suspected American extremists, resorting instead to prosecutions for hate crimes, illegal gun possession and other federal or state violations. Federal agents often cannot use laws that are applicable to international cases, in which charges of material support of terrorism can bring a sentence of 15 years in prison for the simple act of providing a phone card to a suspect linked to a foreign group. Civil liberties protections for Americans make it harder for investigators to persuade judges to authorize wiretaps and other forms of surveillance. Unlike al-Qaida, ISIS and other officially designated foreign terror organizations, U.S. groups such as the KKK are legal, and extremists cannot be prosecuted simply for belonging to or assisting them.
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Another FBI counterterrorism veteran said he had no doubt about what to call the storming of the Capitol on Wednesday.
“The definition of terrorism is the use of a threat of force or violence to influence the policy of a government,” said retired agent Thomas O’Connor. “You had people who physically and violently broke down doors and stopped a legislative action. This is an act of domestic terrorism, in my opinion.”
During 23 years on the FBI’s Joint Terrorism Task Force in Washington, O’Connor led high-profile investigations across the world, from the al-Qaida bombings of the U.S. embassies in Africa in 1998 to the massacre of 11 people at the Tree of Life Synagogue in Pittsburgh in 2018.
Source: Domestic Terrorism: A More Urgent Threat, but Weaker Laws
RGL90
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And I agree 100 with you my man , any other time it would sound like straight lunatic talk. But in these times I actually can’t believe where we are and to think about the laws that are about to come into play . And think of it like this ... the early post where I heard some one talking about trump about to sign , I believe it’s called the insurrection act , where he steps down and lets the military and homeland of defense/ secretary take over , then you know what comes next, full out chaos in the streets , civil war... the military and patriots on one side , versus the left / Biden and Kamala supporters .... and then it wouldn’t seem so far fetched for the Chinese military to assist them. Again I’m only asking if anyone else has heard of this . I was just talking to a man about it yesterday and it got me thinking ... they said trump had to play this out until the very end , to see who was on his side and who was not, now he signs the law into effect and steps down ... open for any discussion on this, I would like to hear from greatwhite trucker but can’t seem to find his handle @BigBaldBeardGuy , any input ?
Even Parler is now apparently deleting posts that incite or encorage violence...
Despite being a social media platform that touts itself as a free speech alternative to Twitter, Parler does have rules. And it appears that some of Wood’s posts have broken community guidelines.
Specifically, Parler’s rule 6.1.2 which states:
However, reported parleys, comments, or messages sent using our service will be deemed a violation of these Guidelines if they contain: an explicit or implicit encouragement to use violence, or to commit a lawless action, such that: (a) the Parleyer intends his or her speech to result in the use of violence or lawless action, and (b) the imminent use of violence or lawless action is the likely result of the parley, comment, or message.
UPDATE (01/09/2021) 11:40 AM EST: Following publication, Parler CEO John Matze told Mediaite they had taken action against some of Wood’s “parleys,” including the message about the “firing squads.”
“Yes, some of his parleys that violated our rules were taken down,” Matze told Mediaite. “Including the ones you are talking about.”
Source: Lin Wood Continues To Invoke Violence On Parler
I was just thinking about that platform a little earlier this afternoon, wondering how they'd handle these posts when they inevitably started popping up... I really had no idea how they'd handle it.
I wonder what kind of reaction they're getting for this? Agreement or an affront on their free speech?
Looks like Parler is waking up to the fact there are limits to so-called free speech and posts that incite violence cross that limit. That's the fact of life.
Apple just removed parler from their app store.
Amazon, Apple and Google Cut Off Parler, an App That Drew Trump Supporters (Published 2021)
The companies pulled support for the “free speech” social network, all but killing the service just as many conservatives are seeking alternatives to Facebook and Twitter.
I would hate if Trump brought in martial law thru the Insurrection Act. It should never come to that and who can imagine what that looks like.
I might give Trump too much credit, I keep thinking he MUST have something. I’ve never seen anyone carry on this way just because he lost. One thing risking your bank account to be right on a business deal. It’s a totally different thing to risk the welfare of the country to be right on the election. That’s maximum level crazy. Maybe he is. I don’t know.
But the President of the US has access to everything, including the Intelligence Department. I think we all have faith that our Intelligence is the best in the world. We monitor everything because we’ve been in the position of World’s Babysitter. Everything including what goes on inside our own borders, thanks to the Patriot Act. That’s information that the rest of us, including the media can’t see.
With all that, Trump has to have something concrete to stand on. He claims it’s “EPIC” so maybe they are tip-toeing very delicately for fear of WW3. Nancy Pelosi sure seems to be in a real big hurry to move him out. Nothing to see here. Nothing to see.
It sucks if it comes to Martial Law but if the Democrats are going to deny deny deny to the end, then i think it’s inevitable that Trump might play that last card.
The media has twisted this into a “Trump and Trump supporter” thing and that’s wrong. It’s ALL about the election. It’s about making sure people in America have the right to VOTE for their leaders. It doesn’t matter who the President is or isn’t. The election needs to matter moving forward. Yes Trump calls it fraud but he wasn’t the only one. There’s far too many discrepancies that bear a full look. Too many states that switched voting laws. We’re long past needing voting reform. The democrats should have offered probes and special committee to look into it more thoroughly. That would have removed doubt.
There’s a difference between inciting violence and sharing information, opinions and beliefs.
There are people that got removed from Twitter and FB just for discussing what is going on. No comments about violence at all.
And you’re going to remove the leader of the free world?
It’s a slippery slope. Tech companies now have the power to shut you off just for sharing your personal beliefs. That results in a country that allows only ONE way of thinking. No dissent. No counterpoint and balance. I don’t know if that’s a good thing.
What’s stopping them from shutting off certain candidates? Now BigTech is able to determine who gets more coverage and who doesn’t. This isn’t a good thing long term. It’s only good if you hate the current President.
That decision was not made lightly but to prevent incitement of more violence.
he was just teasing, I guess. I see he’s still running for the biggest conspiratorial nut job contest
BodyMechanic
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The "Russia" investigation didn't charge the target [emoji457] of the investigation. So what investigation are you talking about? Are you arguing this?
I don't know what you're on about blaming left blah blah.... source of .... Not sure what you're talking about.
One side is not a big problem for me. Both sides are, I'm not a R. Spineless Republicans are not much better.
The last 2 questions you just asked me? Ask yourself that? [emoji51]
I think you are giving him too much credit. He has called Georgia’s election officials and asked them to “find” votes. And insinuated threats on him. And that guy is a republican. Trump is a boneafide narcissist. Hes only worried about his reputation and his money. How everyone cant see that at this point concerns me. He just doesn’t want to be thought off as having lost.
I mean the Vice President would have all the info the president has, he did not try to use his “power” to overturn it. Although i think he knows that wouldn’t have worked.
Mitch mcconnell would have that info too, right? He has stopped backing the president. His party wanted to keep his followers, thats why they stayed with him so long, now they realize what thats costing the county by the episode at the capitol.
And now Amazon cuts off their access to AWS hosting service...Apple just removed parler from their app store.
Amazon, Apple and Google Cut Off Parler, an App That Drew Trump Supporters (Published 2021)
The companies pulled support for the “free speech” social network, all but killing the service just as many conservatives are seeking alternatives to Facebook and Twitter.www.nytimes.com
https://parler.com/post/009ba435b68c46d4955e1cd7737fa27c
Amazon Is Booting Parler Off Of Its Web Hosting Service
Amazon's suspension of Parler's account means that unless it can find another host, once the ban takes effect on Sunday Parler will go offline.People on Parler used the social network to stoke fear, spread hate, and coordinate the insurrection at the Capitol building on Wednesday. The app has recently been overrun with death threats, celebrations of violence, and posts encouraging “Patriots” to march on Washington, DC with weapons on January 19, the day before the inauguration of President-elect Joe Biden.
In an email obtained by BuzzFeed News, an AWS Trust and Safety team told Parler Chief Policy Officer Amy Peikoff that the calls for violence propagating across the social network violated its terms of service. Amazon said it was unconvinced that the service’s plan to use volunteers to moderate calls for violence and hate speech would be effective.
“Recently, we’ve seen a steady increase in this violent content on your website, all of which violates our terms," the email reads. "It’s clear that Parler does not have an effective process to comply with the AWS terms of service.”
Source: Amazon Is Booting Parler Off Of Its Web Hosting Service
Cookieman
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Big Tech is growing to be inherently evil in my opinion. The media and social media have gone out of their way to censor any and all information that goes against the progressive narrative for the left. I don't care what side of the political spectrum you fall on, as an American citizen that should alarm you. All information regarding anything that could be perceived as negative in regards to Biden or Covid 19 has been removed by " fact checkers". Someone posted on FB and Twitter about Biden signing the bill in the 90s to implement mandatory minimums for drug offenses( aka specifically crack cocaine) . Those posts were flagged and removed for false information? Not false info, it's 100 pct factual information. Alternate opinions regarding Covid 19, by actual doctors...removed..How can anyone be ok with any of this? OUR( All Americans, rt and left) Constitutional rights are in serious jeapordy. I am becoming increasingly worried and concerned about the direction our country is headed in.
The Russian investigation had no individual target it was investigating, you're reading too many Trump "witch hunt" tweets and taking them literally.
The investigation was aimed at the Trump campaign as a whole, and resulted in 34 indictments.. you're moving the goal posts, first you say that it netted zero results and now you're saying it just didn't net Trump's arrest. Well, the only reason Trump didn't get arrested is because of the Dept of Justice's policy against the federal indictment of a sitting president. That is the only thing that protected him, and again, the Trump campaign has openly admitted multiple times that they'd be completely open to colluding with foreign countries to win an election...
You just really don't have a leg to stand on calling it a democratic hoax, not by a long shot.
BodyMechanic
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The Russian investigation was to prove that Trump campaign had colluded with them. Not moving goal posts, you are bud. They found zero. They busted Paul M for back taxes and a few others with similar and unrelated to what the investigation was about. That sitting pres policy is BS is not the reason they didn't arrest him. There was no crime, period. And you'll say, "oh but he was onstructing ..." I would too if they came after me with a bullshit accusation. Fact: He didn't collude with Russians.
Anyway I'm done arguing Trumps side. Like I told you, I am not a Rep. I just enjoy taking opposite sides. I am the first one that will say haul him away if he's found guilty of anything. That goes for any politician. Period. I don't like their kind of narcissistic breed. All of em, and of you want we can argue that too if you want. You'll have a fun time defending how not narcissistic Democrats aren't [emoji51]
Rot-Iron66
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Both sides are retarded. Us (The People) vs. them (Gov).
They have mindless retards doing their dirty work for them (on both sides), and low IQ sheep are doing what their phone tells them to, embarrassing times...
They have mindless retards doing their dirty work for them (on both sides), and low IQ sheep are doing what their phone tells them to, embarrassing times...
Test_Subject
New Member
Seeing so many "don't-tread-on-me" and "anti-government" types take any opportunity they can to drool all over Trump's dick for the last four years has been wild. So you're anti-government, but you're ride-or-die with the head of the government? What? Yeah, Trump, the guy who was born with a silver spoon in his mouth is "your guy." He'd have 95% of his supporters kicked out of any of his clubs in a second.
Then, you have your progressives who think that Biden is going to heal the country and fix everything. Yeah, the guy who voted for the three strikes law, has supported nearly every US military action conducted during his time in government, supported the Defense of Marriage act and voted to repeal Glass-Steagal, which helped foment the housing market collapse... yes, that guy is going to heal the country and fix the division.
People are fucked, man.
