Question: Why would Iran and China work so hard to help Biden get elected? What does that say for Biden? Is he good for American?
Look, as I said last night:
We are living in two separate worlds. This is going to be my last post on this thread, because it obviously is going nowhere. You are entirely entrenched in your position, which in my opinion is based off of lies and manipulation from right wing extremist news sources. Regardless, I am sure we still have a lot in common and I wish you no ill will. I don't know why others feel the need to get mean and nasty, calling names and whatnot. I'm done with this thread.
Before I go, I will say a few things in response to some of the recent posts.
China actually loves Trump. Trump's policies have actually
HELPED China (the article is free, make a throwaway email to get it, it is very insightful). The Chinese people have literally given Trump the nickname "Build-the-Country Trump" because they recognize that Trump is actually
strengthening the Chinese state. I stated this in a previous post with a source linked. China has LOVED seeing Trump destabilize the United States, degrade our alliances with important countries, and further isolate us on the global stage. He has hurt our global standing in more ways than I can count. China LOVES this fact.
I don't expect Biden to "go easy" on China. Also, a bunch of countries are pushing back on Chinese policies. There is global recognition at all levels of citizens and government that CCP's human rights violations are horrendous and have no slowed down--and other countries want China held accountable for these heinous crimes. Also, when we isolate ourselves from our Allies, that means we have
less bargaining power and influence in the world.
Honestly, Trump or Biden, either way is a win-win for China, just in different ways. Personally, I think Trump would have been a
bigger win for China for the reasons I stated and in the article.
I don't know about Iran trying to get Biden elected? I don't know that Iran has the tech divisions necessary to really DO much in that regard, unlike Russia and China which have put out fake information campaigns at least since the 2016 election, with great success.
Thank you these librards are complete morons! How about Portland etc that are on fire, but that doesn't count
No, that was fucking horrendous and completely unnecessary. Please stop overgeneralizing all liberals as crazy extremists who want to defund the policy with no regard for what that means. By doing so, you are only furthering the divide between the right and left, which does NOT benefit America at all.
IMO police need MORE funding, WAY MORE training, WAY MORE money in salary, and MORE access to counseling/psychological care. Also, citizens need more rights, we need to eliminate no knock warrants, we should not allow cops to alter or redact body cam footage prior to releasing it to the public, and we need to have reparations for police that do psychological and physical damage to people via excessive force or even flat out breaking into the wrong fucking house while trying to arrest someone. I do think we need to get rid of police unions as they really seem to make the police immune to punishment. If a cop murders someone on the job or beats someone half to death unnecessarily, they should not be placed on paid leave. Surely you must agree with me on these things?
He's an idiot. BLM/ANTIFA were escorted into the city, by Capital police, dressed as "Trump supporters" and then raised hell. One of my boys who was there witnessed it first hand but of course the fake news won't tell you that. I love how these idiots watch CNN and its gospel to em.
Well, I actually mainly get my news from centrist sources, but expose myself to news on both sides--none of the extremist stuff though. You won't find me reading Democracy Now or The Daily Beast, or Breitbart or Alex Jones--all of which are extremist and designed to suck you into conspiracies and bullshit. Also, for ANYTHING I read, I don't simply take as fact. I try to verify the truth of the information against other sources and also think out whether it makes sense or not. I see a lot of liberals and a ton of conservatives just parroting crap they read online on some extremist opinion website, or even some blog. It is just sad that people aren't able to vet their own information and think for themselves. That is a massive failure of our crappy/inadequate American education system.
What you are saying about police escorting BLM/Antifa has no real evidence and also makes no fucking sense. Black Lives Matter and police do NOT get along. Neither does Antifa--all of those people are screaming "defund the police" with no regard for the consequences or thinking ahead to what that means. These two groups of people fucking hate each other, yet you think they somehow brokered a secret treaty between thousands of people--all of whom are deep undercover BLM/Antifa agents--and hundreds of police to stage a
fake coup against the United States, all in order to make Trump look bad?
That is absolutely bananas. There is simply no way that would possibly work.
Also, there have been tons of people who were recognized, called out, or even later arrested by police/federal agents for their actions the day of the attempted coup, who have well proven themselves to be right wing extremists.
I just don't understand why you can't accept that there are fucking crazy, violent people on the right wing extremist side? Are they all just perfect little angels in your mind and they have never done any harm to anyone and everything they do is solely for the selfless benefit of the country? You really think the Proud Boys aren't fucking nuts? They have been filmed beating the shit out of people on the streets, ganging up on them 30 to 1. It is sick and cowardly.
What you are saying simply doesn't make any sense at all man. Nor is there any real evidence of that. People get so far addicted to conspiracies (Alex Jones is a great example of someone who is literally addicted to conspiracies) that they stop even thinking through how realistic a conspiracy is. That shit would never fucking work. Having THOUSANDS of people involved? Also there is evidence ALL OVER, posts and emails EVERYWHERE on the internet from right wing extremists about their plans to do these things. They've had sufficient evidence to arrest a bunch of people. You're saying these are highly trained secret BLM agents that have gone so deep undercover that they have spent months or even YEARS posting right wing content and trying to rile people up online to support Trump? I'm sorry, but that is just not true.
Like I said, I am out of this thread. I am just tired of spending time arguing with you guys. As I said twice now, I am sure we have lots of other things in common. I like to go outside and hike, I love shooting guns and am a huge 2nd amendment supporter, I like to cook and do photography and play video games. I wish you guys all the best and hope that you choose to expose yourself to more centrist and reasonable news sources. The extremist content on either side is simply poison for your mind.
These sites are peddling ANGER, whether that be facebook, The Daily Beast, or Breitbart or OAN. All these news sites are setup to make people angry, which keeps them engaged and on the site so they make more money. Also,
Anger is proven to make you more vulnerable to misinformation and lies. All these things together mean that extremists on both sides are falling deeper and deeper into the hole. Damaging their mental health and
damaging America by dividing the country. We have way more in common than we do not in common. Again, I wish y'all the best and hope you have a highly prosperous and happy year!! I'll see y'all around in some other threads, hopefully
not talking politics 
