JuicePal Scam?

[malfeasance]

2) selective scamming

I understand in theory why this is a concern, but I haven't seen this be an issue with JP - plenty of other sources have problems creep up all the time. You hear about it on one board or another, even if it is the type of board that deletes negative comments. This just is not a concern I have seen anywhere with JP - I am simply not aware of complaints. I have no affiliation with him and no reason to put this out there. I am just being honest. I have not seen a complaint before FattyOne's, and who knows about that? I am not saying his complaint is not legitimate, but I do see years and years of pretty much nothing but good reviews commencing from well before JP was on ASF.

I was a little shocked to see all of that testing posted up above - that's a lot. It tells me that a source is concerned about the quality of what he is providing.

I'd love to see FattyOne submit his dianabol to Janoshik. If it tests good, then great. If it tests bad, then how JP responds to a bad test would also tell us a lot, but we haven't heard back from FattyOne since JP mentioned testing in response to FattyOne, and I am guessing we are not going to hear from him. And this is not one of those boards where a guy who complains gets banned, so . . . Fattyone, if you are out there, get this done. The source is inviting you to get it done. Dianabol is pretty easy for Janoshik to test and put this to bed.

 

[lifter6973]

I understand in theory why this is a concern, but I haven't seen this be an issue with JP - plenty of other sources have problems creep up all the time. You hear about it on one board or another, even if it is the type of board that deletes negative comments. This just is not a concern I have seen anywhere with JP - I am simply not aware of complaints. I have no affiliation with him and no reason to put this out there. I am just being honest. I have not seen a complaint before FattyOne's, and who knows about that? I am not saying his complaint is not legitimate, but I do see years and years of pretty much nothing but good reviews commencing from well before JP was on ASF.

I was a little shocked to see all of that testing posted up above - that's a lot. It tells me that a source is concerned about the quality of what he is providing.

I'd love to see FattyOne submit his dianabol to Janoshik. If it tests good, then great. If it tests bad, then how JP responds to a bad test would also tell us a lot, but we haven't heard back from FattyOne since JP mentioned testing in response to FattyOne, and I am guessing we are not going to hear from him. And this is not one of those boards where a guy who complains gets banned, so . . . Fattyone, if you are out there, get this done. The source is inviting you to get it done. Dianabol is pretty easy for Janoshik to test and put this to bed.

with those results JP posting it certainly looks tempting- hopefully down the road when I may be looking he still is solid as it appears he may be now.

 

[malfeasance]

Yes, and his higher concentration test still PIP’s like a mother fucker. I had to email him and ask him if he hated me

I do not order higher concentration testosterone for this reason. Pharma has a certain dose per ml for a reason. Every time I exceed typical pharma concentration, I get pain and redness. I haven't tried JP's "higher concentration test," nor would I for this reason. That is a lesson I learned years ago and still abide by today.

 

[malfeasance]

I bought some dbol from juice pal that I questioned. 25mg tabs. Zero weight gain, bloat, strength increase etc. I wanted to buy a test kit but decided as cheap as they were, I’d just toss the rest

Oh, wait, you threw them in the trash???

Ok, so much for testing.

Fattyone, have you used dianabol before? Or since? Were you using anything else with them? Was it 25mg daily or 50 or 75 or something else and for how many days before you trashed them? I wish you would not have done that.


Just a funny story here - I thought I had bunk growth hormone. This was before I knew that hard cutting (low calories) restricts IGF-1. The UGL growth tested in the 100s on 5 iu. I was going to throw away the UGL growth hormone, but I got lazy and just forgot to do so. I switched to a known pharma source as I continued my cut. I retested IGF-1, but I was in a severe deficit at this time, and my IGF-1 was only 54. <--- not a typo.

That gave me a clue that maybe it was not the growth hormone that was the problem.

I retested the "bunk" UGL when I upped my calories later, and IGF that was formerly low 100s on 5 iu was now 345.

I was glad I did not toss it in the trash like I intended.

 

[MadBret]

Just a thought...we had a member here on meso, that last year, claimed that an ugl had sold him bunk dbol based off his feels. He was popping more than 100mgs a day and claimed to be having no side effects. A sample was sent to jano for testing and actually came back overdosed. It was mentioned that it was possibly not being disolved well because the pills were pressed really hard. Maybe if @Fattyone tried chewing them up really good for a week or two to see if he starts getting the desired effects he was expecting? If the tablets are legit but they are too hard to properly break down during digestion, that could possibly be his problem...just my two pennies.

 

[justanoob]

Yes i would, if i ever do join meso i would do some sort of thing. But as i said previously i wont be able to handle any more business, its just going to delay my t/a and make things more stressful for me. If and when i decide to bring another shipper to handle the extra work load then yes i would offer it and join the board. But not at the time. In fact you wont see me on these forums without offering this testing to every customer.

but i am not ready for the extra workload so for now i stay where im at.

Appreicate the response man. And whether you are on this board or not I will keep an eye out. I respect a lot of the guys on this board that have had good experinces with your product, and the amount of testing you do is insane. Hopefully one day you can offer the reinbursment for testing. Even if I had to pay for the testing up front, I don't mind. I'd just like to know that if a test came back bad I would be reinbursed.

 

[T-roy]

hi t-roy, actually you emailed my anonymous speech email so yes those emails are deleted after i read them. But no I'm not a drug dealer who is trying to make a buck. I dont sell narcotics. I sell hormones. Hormones are not narcotics. Narcotics destroy lives. Hormones Enhance them. Look at the guys that use hormones now look at the guys that do narcotics(trash people)


Drugs are not good. And people shouldnt use them. There is no excuse. just look how every single person that does drugs has a disgusting below average looking girlfriend or a very fucked up life. Not a single successful person does them. That should say a lot . Its always the same trash using them. i am not a drug dealer and do not support narcotic use.


And why would i give you credit for testing if i already spend money on testing? to prove im not selling you snake oil? lol. why would Tony Huge make a story of my on instagram trying to get a hold of me? maybe he has seen some really big bodybuilders that have used me? Why would bostin loyd vouch for all the ifbb pros that use me if i am a scammer?

And what? i m advertising test reports from last year that is my current batch that im selling ? what? I think you have me confused with someone else.


Hell, I have the same compound that been tested in just 2 months of time that have been posted.. some compounds were tested 2 WEEKS LATER after my compound because of how fast those batches sold!!!! Where are you getting that i am advertising test reports from last year and lying saying its the same batch as a year ago lol wtf

EXAMPLE -

In February 2021, the following compounds were tested.

HALOTESTIN 10 mg --- 11.21 mg

Janoshik Analytical

MAST E 200 ---- 195.02

Janoshik Analytical

PRIMO E 200 -- 203.3

Janoshik Analytical

NPP 150 --- 159.80

Janoshik Analytical

EQ 500 --- 546.32 mg

Janoshik Analytical

MAST PROP 100 --- 104.32 mg

Janoshik Analytical

TEST ENANTHATE 250 --- 244.39 mg

Janoshik Analytical

NOW LATE FEBRUARY AFTER SELL OUT OF EQ PRIMO NEEDED TO RUSH THESE TO GET OUT FOR TESTING - look at the test results below

Primo e 200 - 208 mg

Janoshik Analytical

EQ 500- 619 mg (NEW BATCH OF EQ AFTER OTHER ONE SOLD OUT FROM JUST A FEW WEEKS AGO)

Janoshik Analytical

A MONTH LATER MARCH 2021 the following compounds were tested (NOTICE THESE COMPOUNDS WERE ALSO TESTED A MONTH AGO. dont you think i can lie to people and say yea bro same test result as last month, but instead i sent them out for testing !!! )

Mast E 200mg ---- 209.43mg

Janoshik Analytical

Test E 250 mg --- 284.86 mg

Janoshik Analytical

Mast Prop 100 mg --- 106.48 mg

Janoshik Analytical

NPP 150 mg --- 154.9 mg

Janoshik Analytical

Halo 10 mg --- 11.81

Janoshik Analytical

yet you claim i advertise test reports from last year? you have me confused with other sources that do this. but not men.

J.P, you just got done lecturing me on Schedule 1-5 drugs! I feel silly that we have to go down this road. Now, that I see your true demeanor, I’ll bite. First, you said your not a drug dealer. J.p, Steroids are a schedule 3 drug. So yes your job tile remains as I said a DRUG DEALER. Now that we have that straightened out. Second, you said,” why would I pay you for testing when I already did”. J.P, You buy the raws, you make the final product, you send in the samples. That’s all you! How do we know your brewing with those raws, how do we know we’re getting those finished products, We don’t, that’s why we want to get the products tested. Bottom line, it’s our money and our body. You obviously don’t respect that or you wouldn’t be running your mouth off about, why would I pay you for testing! Here I get to say it now WTF!!! This is why you should be offering a credit for blind testing and or bloods for everybody.
I try not to add fuel to a fire, but if I do it will have a faster burn rate to end the problems quicker. In case you didn’t get that JuicePal. Stop being such an over confident arrogant fuck and Reimburse existing and future customers for testing. It’s our way of protecting ourselves and others.

 

[Fattyone]

Oh, wait, you threw them in the trash???

Ok, so much for testing.

Fattyone, have you used dianabol before? Or since? Were you using anything else with them? Was it 25mg daily or 50 or 75 or something else and for how many days before you trashed them? I wish you would not have done that.


Just a funny story here - I thought I had bunk growth hormone. This was before I knew that hard cutting (low calories) restricts IGF-1. The UGL growth tested in the 100s on 5 iu. I was going to throw away the UGL growth hormone, but I got lazy and just forgot to do so. I switched to a known pharma source as I continued my cut. I retested IGF-1, but I was in a severe deficit at this time, and my IGF-1 was only 54. <--- not a typo.

That gave me a clue that maybe it was not the growth hormone that was the problem.

I retested the "bunk" UGL when I upped my calories later, and IGF that was formerly low 100s on 5 iu was now 345.

I was glad I did not toss it in the trash like I intended.

by toss them I meant into the box on top of my fridge where questionable things go to die lol. I still have them. I was going off what I head read from numerous other people on other message boards. I never tried chewing them, I did double up on the dose for a few weeks with same results. Maybe I will send some off for testing.

I went through 60 tabs. I’ll have to double check but I’m 99% sure they were 25mg per tab. I was using them in conjunction with a small test only blast. I’m back to TRT dose now cutting. I plan to blast test/primo and possibly an oral starting in June once the cut is over.

 

[Fattyone]

Just a thought...we had a member here on meso, that last year, claimed that an ugl had sold him bunk dbol based off his feels. He was popping more than 100mgs a day and claimed to be having no side effects. A sample was sent to jano for testing and actually came back overdosed. It was mentioned that it was possibly not being disolved well because the pills were pressed really hard. Maybe if @Fattyone tried chewing them up really good for a week or two to see if he starts getting the desired effects he was expecting? If the tablets are legit but they are too hard to properly break down during digestion, that could possibly be his problem...just my two pennies.

that is a good idea. The first week I did break them in half so I could ease into the dose as this was my first time running dbol and I wanted to start slow. No idea if that was the right call, just made sense in my meat head brain.

 

[Fattyone]

There ya go @Fattyone
Get the Dbol Tested and prove the guy qrong about his gear
If not, feelz reports arent particularly accepted here.

you are correct. I should have actually tested them and not relied on feelings. In my defense, I said I questioned them, never claimed they were fake. It was just a concern, and a sample of 1. I’ll see about getting them sent out for testing.

 

[Obscured78]

I selfishly hope JP never comes here!!!

 

[Navysquid]

Know what, I looked and saw a new product that I’ve never seen before. 50mg 60ml primo liquid suspension. Never seen that before. I was told to stay away from oral primo

 

[muscletrain]

Know what, I looked and saw a new product that I’ve never seen before. 50mg 60ml primo liquid suspension. Never seen that before. I was told to stay away from oral primo

There is absolutely zero reason to take that imo if you're talking about Primo Acetate/the oral version.

 

[Navysquid]

There is absolutely zero reason to take that imo if you're talking about Primo Acetate/the oral version.

Yes. It seems like ace in 60 ml bottle for like 220. I’m seriously confused on this one. Cause even dick licker gemelli who loves primo says stay away from oral primo.

 

[Obscured78]

I don’t know much about primo ace oral but have heard the same but also heard it is good option for the ladies

 

[MisterSuperGod]

And why would i give you credit for testing if i already spend money on testing? to prove im not selling you snake oil? lol. why would Tony Huge make a story of my on instagram trying to get a hold of me? maybe he has seen some really big bodybuilders that have used me? Why would bostin loyd vouch for all the ifbb pros that use me if i am a scammer?

You need better acquaintances. Both of the name's you keep dropping belong to scumbags that have only muddied the already black waters of the underground AAS scene.

 

[malfeasance]

I selfishly hope JP never comes here!!!

I did not even want him to come to ASF. LOL!

 

[malfeasance]

I’ll see about getting them sent out for testing.

That would be great for everybody here. @janoshik has instructions for contacting him in his thread.

Janoshik Analytical laboratory testing services

From a chemical standpoint, have you noticed any differences in the Chinese test e raws you’ve been testing for the past 6 months or so compared to older samples or pharmaceutical grade compounds? I still find it odd that there have been so many complaints of PIP from these raws yet most people...

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[78morris492]

In my. Communication with him. I felt he was handing me red flags. No thanks.

 

[Obscured78]

In my. Communication with him. I felt he was handing me red flags. No thanks.

Says the guy who gave Beligas a g2g. Beligas has some horrible test results. Smh