Steroids & Autisms: A Study

If you guys cant even be 200 lbs with around 8%bf naturally, walk away id say.
In unless your extremely short.
It depends upon height, of course, but very few have the ability to hit 200 pounds at only 8% body fat naturally.

And I am talking about males of normal height, not those who are extremely short.

You'd have almost everybody walking away.
 
I think you have some enzymatic conversion problem if you can run 500mg test and your estrogen is in the normal range.
I am not picking on you (I promise), but he did not say he can run 500mg test and that his estrogen remains in the normal range. He said he does not get bloat, high blood pressure, and his dick works.

EDIT - Test_Subject beat me to it.
 
Well, but we all know that having estrogen out of range is not healthy long term.. sooner or later he is gonna run into some problems.
For example, i never get gyno, but that doesnt mean i should blast 1g of test now without an AI and have estrogen all sorts out of range.
 
It depends upon height, of course, but very few have the ability to hit 200 pounds at only 8% body fat naturally.

And I am talking about males of normal height, not those who are extremely short.

You'd have almost everybody walking away.
That was a joke on the previous comments... People saying what can be and what cant be acheived naturally, but forgetting we are all different..
One can be 190 ripped without juice and somebody might take all the juice in this world and not even acheive 190(rare but does happen).
 
You said that 11% body fat isn’t lean. That’s retarded.

Now you’re backtracking and talking about estrogen and fat people, which has nothing to do with what you said in the first place.

11 percent body fat in A man is not lean, not to me, not to many, especially people who use AAS, GH, etc.

is 11 percent lean in a gym? Probably not even in a planet fitness.

To add to that, especially if your 5'9 or 5'10, no it is not lean, you don't need AAS to walk around at 11 percent, you don't even look better than the naturals, id be embarssed to be that fat most of the year

I guess on a fat farm you may be Lean its all relative, if your 11 or 15 or 16 percent and want to call yourself lean go ahead, but many will laugh at you.
 
Mexican standoff then.

You can keep preaching the "Everyone here is fat". I'll just ignore it.

I personally don't have estrogen issues, I'm not a fatass, no bloat, I don't have high blood pressure, and my dick works just fine. I can blast 500 mg/week of test with no AI.

Your goal is to be lean and small. Other people have a goal to be as big and strong as possible. I can respect YOUR goal, but not while you continually insult everyone else.

so if your a lean 8 percent most of the year with no dick estrogen or heart problems and you don't need. medicine to control any of that, why offended by my post? you want to be a white night for those who have a big ol belly and some mushy mushy kitties? why white knight for them, let them get offended for themselves.
 
You're a douche.
But not wrong. (About that particular facet)

If someone is walking around with a beer gut and taking AAS... it's pretty sad.

Show us your physique.
Detail your training/nutrition to be able to walk around at 7 or 8 percent year round.

Not kidding, would love to see what you're doing and what you're running to maintain that consistency

I am a douche, do not deny it. A relatively small (compared to most here) but lean duche.

No need to post pics as I don't need validation from random guys online or care if they believe that im 7 percent or so but I will post what I do

my last "bulk" I ended up 210, not fat to most here (as it takes alot or anyone here to admit they or call another are fat as we see, 11 percent is the standard here for being lean so I guess at 210 I was lean)...but not lean enough for me

never was impressed by the bloof balls at the gym the ripped guys always stood out even if smaller

so I said fuk bulking and cut down to 180 or so,,,,once your 7 percent of whatever its not hard to stay there you can bump up cals,,,,do some math,,,trial and error to find what keeps you within 5 lbs of your leanest

trial and error can find what calories maintain/weight/ state of leanest,,,for me its about 3k average

I bump them up to 3300,,,the scale actually climbs,,I drop them to 2700,,I lose wight and come leaner,,,but less full,,so for me about 3k is the magic number to stay 185 and about 7 percent

training,,just train hard, and intense,,,switch it up

bro split,,full body 3x a week,,ppl, ppl,,,,,,5 weeks of hard training then a week off

don't get crazy with the volume,,,make sure each set is hard to failure,,,fancy training routines fortitude and shit aren't needed

if you do a bro split,,,8 sets per part,,pick 1 or two (maybe arms, maybe delts) you want to bring up and add volume each weak,,10, 12, 16 sets maybe,,you will take a week off after 5 or 6 weeks anyway so don't fear over training


cardio? I like to do 30 minutes 5-6x a week,,,,am fasted

no idea if I would put on some pudge if I did less or didn't do it fasted,,I think the fasted is overrated but you can't go wrong with fasted cardio in the AM, and a bro split 5 on 2 off,,,keep it as simple as possible

the 3k calories just get at least 300 pro,,,50 fat,,the rest carbs,,don't need a meal plan,,,just eat good healthy food,,,,if your starving,,moves the feeding window back (intermittent fasting) or eat alot more of your calories from veggies to fill you up

use my fitness pal,,if you do IF and have a 4 hour feeding window,,you can eat more tasty food,,,hard to get 3k calories down in chicken breast and broccoli,,,if you eat your 3k from 6am to 11pm,,,then may want to use food that fills you,,,,find what works best for you so you don't hate your diet,,,at times I crammed my daily total in 4 hours,,a pre and post meal,,,at times I needed smaller meals,,,total calories are what matter but common sense eat a good bit pre and post workout

gear wise I do 500mg,,,test/tren...all test...test/drol,,,im not huge so don't need alot of gear,,gh 2iu helps,,,slin at times pre-workout to help with some size since your not eating a ton to drive size,,but thats the key to stay lean,,,accept your not going to blow up just stay lean and mean year around,,,this is after you've already built a decent foundation,,well a 185 one,,,not sure it would work for a 140lb guy who needs to add mass but id advise slow gaining over turning into a tub of lard then cutting,,the yo yo shit

hard training and figuring how many calories to me are the key,,once you have got lean,,,,always try to bump calories up and maintain your body fat but realize,,sometimes that 300 extra per day will add some Chubb so you may need to add cardio or drop calories back down,,,never fun to bump them up and then. have to drop back down, but it is what it is
 
I am a douche, do not deny it. A relatively small (compared to most here) but lean duche.

No need to post pics as I don't need validation from random guys online or care if they believe that im 7 percent or so but I will post what I do

my last "bulk" I ended up 210, not fat to most here (as it takes alot or anyone here to admit they or call another are fat as we see, 11 percent is the standard here for being lean so I guess at 210 I was lean)...but not lean enough for me

never was impressed by the bloof balls at the gym the ripped guys always stood out even if smaller

so I said fuk bulking and cut down to 180 or so,,,,once your 7 percent of whatever its not hard to stay there you can bump up cals,,,,do some math,,,trial and error to find what keeps you within 5 lbs of your leanest

trial and error can find what calories maintain/weight/ state of leanest,,,for me its about 3k average

I bump them up to 3300,,,the scale actually climbs,,I drop them to 2700,,I lose wight and come leaner,,,but less full,,so for me about 3k is the magic number to stay 185 and about 7 percent

training,,just train hard, and intense,,,switch it up

bro split,,full body 3x a week,,ppl, ppl,,,,,,5 weeks of hard training then a week off

don't get crazy with the volume,,,make sure each set is hard to failure,,,fancy training routines fortitude and shit aren't needed

if you do a bro split,,,8 sets per part,,pick 1 or two (maybe arms, maybe delts) you want to bring up and add volume each weak,,10, 12, 16 sets maybe,,you will take a week off after 5 or 6 weeks anyway so don't fear over training


cardio? I like to do 30 minutes 5-6x a week,,,,am fasted

no idea if I would put on some pudge if I did less or didn't do it fasted,,I think the fasted is overrated but you can't go wrong with fasted cardio in the AM, and a bro split 5 on 2 off,,,keep it as simple as possible

the 3k calories just get at least 300 pro,,,50 fat,,the rest carbs,,don't need a meal plan,,,just eat good healthy food,,,,if your starving,,moves the feeding window back (intermittent fasting) or eat alot more of your calories from veggies to fill you up

use my fitness pal,,if you do IF and have a 4 hour feeding window,,you can eat more tasty food,,,hard to get 3k calories down in chicken breast and broccoli,,,if you eat your 3k from 6am to 11pm,,,then may want to use food that fills you,,,,find what works best for you so you don't hate your diet,,,at times I crammed my daily total in 4 hours,,a pre and post meal,,,at times I needed smaller meals,,,total calories are what matter but common sense eat a good bit pre and post workout

gear wise I do 500mg,,,test/tren...all test...test/drol,,,im not huge so don't need alot of gear,,gh 2iu helps,,,slin at times pre-workout to help with some size since your not eating a ton to drive size,,but thats the key to stay lean,,,accept your not going to blow up just stay lean and mean year around,,,this is after you've already built a decent foundation,,well a 185 one,,,not sure it would work for a 140lb guy who needs to add mass but id advise slow gaining over turning into a tub of lard then cutting,,the yo yo shit

hard training and figuring how many calories to me are the key,,once you have got lean,,,,always try to bump calories up and maintain your body fat but realize,,sometimes that 300 extra per day will add some Chubb so you may need to add cardio or drop calories back down,,,never fun to bump them up and then. have to drop back down, but it is what it is

We get it. You’re anorexic.

I just don’t see the point of running gear if you’re not going to get strong or big from it.
 
We get it. You’re anorexic.

I just don’t see the point of running gear if you’re not going to get strong or big from it.

I don't see th point of buying gear and working out to have muffin top?

Why harm your health just to be a big chubby guy? the AAS only compounds the issues you already have from being a lardass
 
I don't see th point of buying gear and working out to have muffin top?

Why harm your health just to be a big chubby guy? the AAS only compounds the issues you already have from being a lardass

The point I’ve been trying to make is that there’s a happy medium between a waifish eating disorder and a chubby fat lardass.

You consistently insult everyone here instead of being a positive influence. You say you don’t need validation yet your comments suggest otherwise. Hey, great, I’d pat you on the back for your dedication but I’d be afraid to accidentally knock you over.

Everyone is here for the same reason - to better themselves. Not everyone is going to be 10% bf just like not everyone here is a 25% bf load pushing insane amounts of gear. I’m not even sure where you get your generalities.
 
I don't see th point of buying gear and working out to have muffin top?

Why harm your health just to be a big chubby guy? the AAS only compounds the issues you already have from being a lardass
I think you really do have a problem...with yourself.
 
The point I’ve been trying to make is that there’s a happy medium between a waifish eating disorder and a chubby fat lardass.

You consistently insult everyone here instead of being a positive influence. You say you don’t need validation yet your comments suggest otherwise. Hey, great, I’d pat you on the back for your dedication but I’d be afraid to accidentally knock you over.

Everyone is here for the same reason - to better themselves. Not everyone is going to be 10% bf just like not everyone here is a 25% bf load pushing insane amounts of gear. I’m not even sure where you get your generalities.

From the threads I have seen lately, lead me to believe a large percentage are just too fat and if they are, I can't see how thy can possibly worry about what anti-e to use, what BP med to use, when their problems are simply just gorging with food, and its like they don't recognize it

It's like if you knew an alcoholic who kept getting fired from jobs and came to you and said "how can I find a good boss that wont screw me over" you would say "you dumb fuck you don't need to find a job with a good boss, you need to put down the bottle so you can keep a job"

threads pop up "my estrogen". "roids aren't working". "my next blast". "my blood pressure" then they list their bodyfat

they get replies about exotic anti e's they could run, or a list of BP meds and advantages, I feel like they need someone, or everyone, to point out they are just too damn fat and that is the root of their problems (not looking good, health" but no one will say it we just enable them to think there is this magic cycle or anti e or a few BP meds will help them

none of that shit is needed, just get lean, use AAS to enhance what you built. In addition to this, I see guys at the gym huge but just look bad because they are so fat. Sure they may think they look good, other permabulkders may, but id think the majority of the population think they look stupid and they one day will realize this, and I see this in threads "my distention" "my BP is sky high". the root cause is guys hold themselves to low standards for body composition and think they can force lean muscle on by over eating and dieting will leave them frail and cause them to loose all their muscle which is just water, slop, fat, and glycogen
 
I think you really do have a problem...with yourself.
good for you

and im staring at your avatar, and in my honest opinion, your fat. don't know how to sugar coat it, your waist is huge, but keep blasting away and eating those carbs so the scale moves up and you can feel good

hows the blood pressure and blood work?

I bet if you got lean for once you could use more gear and even at less weight, with the gut, you would look more impressive and possibly bigger
 
good for you

and im staring at your avatar, and in my honest opinion, your fat. don't know how to sugar coat it, your waist is huge, but keep blasting away and eating those carbs so the scale moves up and you can feel good

hows the blood pressure and blood work?

I bet if you got lean for once you could use more gear and even at less weight, with the gut, you would look more impressive and possibly bigger
Thanks for the comment, and I've been pretty stocky for a good part of my life and it runs in my family. Right now I am 205lbs at 5'8 with 35" waist. Bloodwork and physical turned out very well and just minor nuisance health issues but otherwise in great health.
 
Thanks for the comment, and I've been pretty stocky for a good part of my life and it runs in my family. Right now I am 205lbs at 5'8 with 35" waist. Bloodwork and physical turned out very well and just minor nuisance health issues but otherwise in great health.

To each his own, if that what makes you happy. You could come down to 190 and pull the waist to 32.5 and look bigger IMO but if you want to look stocky for a few more lbs on your lifts it is what it is
 
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