Russia begins invasion of Ukraine

That's the official version.

The only thing true about it was that there has never been a more malevolent and brutal regime in human history as the Soviet Union under Joseph Stalin.

The united states allowed the Soviets to take Ukraine, parts of Poland Lithuania and utterly rape Germany after the second world war basically empowering Stalin to do what he did.

The Bolsheviks had complete control of the Soviet Union. The Bolsheviks once the Soviet Union fell many relocated to Israel. Where they now control the most powerful lobbying organization in America. AIPAC. And exert more control over American policy than Americans themselves
You are correct BUT we were still at war in the Pacific for 3 and a half more months until we nuked Japan...there was no way the USA and England wanted to start fighting Russia........could you imagine what would have happened had the allies fought Russia?...or what would have happened if Truman allowed macarthur to invade china in 1951 using nukes?......back in the 90s I was going to buy a Mitsubishi SUV...my dad went off like a bomb bringing it my attention how the japs tried sinking his carrier with Mitsubishi planes while he was shooting flack guns at them...2 of my uncle's never came back alive having died in France....another uncle saw "heavy action" during the battle of the bulge...I learned at his funeral that he shot and killed lots of German soldiers...
 
Its a stretch to call Putin hitler in my opinion. Not a big stretch but a stretch. Hitlers agenda was far more sinister. Putins still a sociopath though, who cares little about his people (and in that regard hes very much like Stalin was) and has no conscience.

Its sad because Russia is a huge country with enormous natural resources and any such country should pretty much be a gimme for becoming a rich and prosperous nation but Russian leadership has never cared much about the prosperity of its people and its rather dismal economic performance is a manifestation of that. On paper Russia should be one of the richest countries on earth and its people too, but with Putin at the helm the peoples prosperity are the furthest thing from his mind and he seems forever stuck in this cold war era mentality of east vs west rivalry. I respect the Chinese government a lot more in this regard, they at least seem to give a shit about the prosperity of their people more than Putin does about Russians.
Too many people dig up the Hitler stuff over and over.

Why do they do it. Why is that every person in the world that has been done wrong is expected to pull their panties up and get on with life and not talk about the past, but a certain group can keep talking about the same old shit in perpetuity?

Money.....there's lots of money to be made off this bullshit. Hitler is dead, his body burned, and bones crushed. He's gone and he really only lasted perhaps 12 years with any real power. 12 years, universe has been around for 14 billion years. I hope people can see how dumb this shit is getting.

How come no one brings up Chinese Nationalism. Forget Communism, China isn't communist, they're full blown Nationalist. Insult one of them in China and you'll have a small army of China men chasing you down the street with meat cleavers.

It seems odd that we take one little group from a small country and turn them into the boogieman for the rest of history so a certain group can keep that money rolling in.

There's no reason to compare Putin to anyone. He's just a man with power and power is dangerous and that's why he either needs to step down or someone is gonna have to whack him.
 
Jano none of us can do anything and I wouldn't do anything even if I could. It's not because I don't care, it's because I'm too old and wise and know war is horseshit.

The only thing I can do is talk out my ass and hopefully Putin is reading Meso as I accuse him of sodomizing little boys.

If you want to know the truth I think Ukraine should have just stood down. Put the white flags out and pull up a lawnchair and call it a day.

I spend my days meditating and relaxing and over the years I've come to realize that giving a shit about anything is a waste of time. Just let Russia come in and tell them "what took you so long, did you bring any food"?

People don't have to go all balls out and get uptight when it comes to this stuff. War is a con, all it does is get people killed. You only have one life, you're not gonna be back once you're dead and you sure as hell aren't gonna go to heaven to hang out with a zombie hippy.

The only thing that matters is:
 
What sort of Evil minded cunt launches Vacuum Bombs and cluster bombs at innocent civilians and children's schools? I don't care what reasons he has for wanting the country there are lines you simply do not cross in life. The guys face says a thousand words about who he is as a human - Soulless, emotionless and cold. He'd probably be happier if he just put a bullet in the side of his own fuckin head rather than take out his bitterness and hatred on others simply wanting to live and enjoy their lives. It sickens me how evil shits like this are allowed to live among us without getting some kind of fatal disease.
 
What sort of Evil minded cunt launches Vacuum Bombs and cluster bombs at innocent civilians and children's schools? I don't care what reasons he has for wanting the country there are lines you simply do not cross in life. The guys face says a thousand words about who he is as a human - Soulless, emotionless and cold. He'd probably be happier if he just put a bullet in the side of his own fuckin head rather than take out his bitterness and hatred on others simply wanting to live and enjoy their lives. It sickens me how evil shits like this are allowed to live among us without getting some kind of fatal disease.
Don't forget when we turned our barely adult lunatics loose in Iraq and had them going house to house blowing people away.

We've got video of our soldiers listening to death metal all hyped up to shoot anyone. There's video online of us shooting women and children out in the street that were only carrying food back to their shanty shack in Iraq.

So we're not innocent either. I'm not defending Russia, but when it comes to getting millions of people killed over the past 50 years, we're right up there with the best of them.
 
What sort of Evil minded cunt launches Vacuum Bombs and cluster bombs at innocent civilians and children's schools? I don't care what reasons he has for wanting the country there are lines you simply do not cross in life. The guys face says a thousand words about who he is as a human - Soulless, emotionless and cold. He'd probably be happier if he just put a bullet in the side of his own fuckin head rather than take out his bitterness and hatred on others simply wanting to live and enjoy their lives. It sickens me how evil shits like this are allowed to live among us without getting some kind of fatal disease.

Franklin Roosevelt carpet bombed German population centers without any regard for human life.

Then dropped a nuke on a japanese city. No a military base, a city.

So you tell me what kind of piece of shit does that?
 
Jano none of us can do anything and I wouldn't do anything even if I could. It's not because I don't care, it's because I'm too old and wise and know war is horseshit.

The only thing I can do is talk out my ass and hopefully Putin is reading Meso as I accuse him of sodomizing little boys.

If you want to know the truth I think Ukraine should have just stood down. Put the white flags out and pull up a lawnchair and call it a day.

I spend my days meditating and relaxing and over the years I've come to realize that giving a shit about anything is a waste of time. Just let Russia come in and tell them "what took you so long, did you bring any food"?

People don't have to go all balls out and get uptight when it comes to this stuff. War is a con, all it does is get people killed. You only have one life, you're not gonna be back once you're dead and you sure as hell aren't gonna go to heaven to hang out with a zombie hippy.

The only thing that matters is:

Well, I guess you could say I'm a little stuck up, having kids crying because they had to run out of their home and leave daddy behind living in one of my properties right now.

Still, if Ukraine stood down, there would be no more Ukraine.
If Russia stood down, there would be no more war.

Simple as that.
 
Franklin Roosevelt carpet bombed German population centers without any regard for human life.

Then dropped a nuke on a japanese city. No a military base, a city.

So you tell me what kind of piece of shit does that?
I'd like to think we are a little more civilised than we were in those days - all countries have done bad things somewhere along the line in history.
 
Well, I guess you could say I'm a little stuck up, having kids crying because they had to run out of their home and leave daddy behind living in one of my properties right now.

Still, if Ukraine stood down, there would be no more Ukraine.
If Russia stood down, there would be no more war.

Simple as that.
Ukraine is just a patch of land. It will be here long after we're all gone.

Power switches hands over an over, it never seems to stop changing hands.

These days no matter where you live, you're living in a Police State, so I don't think there's a point in getting too overly romantic and choked up about this whole freedom thing because unless you own your own island on another planet, you ain't free.

Take United States, for thousands of years natives walked this land, we show up and take it, now we're dying off and someone else will take it over in a few more decades of illegal immigration.

All I know is that I'll be dead and gone and none of it will matter. So war is just a way to get young people to kill themselves, it's madness that a women would carry a baby in her belly for the sole purpose of it growing up to be fed into a meat grinder.
 
Franklin Roosevelt carpet bombed German population centers without any regard for human life.

Then dropped a nuke on a japanese city. No a military base, a city.

So you tell me what kind of piece of shit does that?
FDR was a puppet and a traitor that was completely owned by this cocksucker(Henry Morgenthau) and his banker buddies: That put together a plan to kill 25 million Germans after the war was over as a form of revenge, but thankfully saner people wouldn't let it happen. So they just let the Red Army invade and rape millions of women, children, elderly, kick people out of their homes and into the streets, have German orphans turn into Wolf children living in the woods and stealing food to survive and to escape the soviets. And of course starving in open fields German soldier prisoners that were eventually packed up to be sent to Russia for slave labor until they killed over dead.


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FDR was a puppet and a traitor that was completely owned by this cocksucker(Henry Morgenthau) and his banker buddies: That put together a plan to kill 25 million Germans after the war was over as a form of revenge, but thankfully saner people wouldn't let it happen. So they just let the Red Army invade and rape millions of women, children, elderly, kick people out of their homes and into the streets, have German orphans turn into Wolf children living in the woods and stealing food to survive and to escape the soviets. And of course starving in open fields German soldier prisoners that were eventually packed up to be sent to Russia for slave labor until they killed over dead.


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One of the biggest piles of shit in US history and the libbies love him.
 
I'd like to think we are a little more civilised than we were in those days - all countries have done bad things somewhere along the line in history.

Barak Obama beginning in 2008 allowed afghan security forces to practice the systemic rape of afghan boys while under US command and even on US military bases and checkpoints.

It was called bacha bazi. Bacha bazi - Wikipedia

Joe Biden just recently ordered a drone strike in a residential area and killed seven people , mostly children and women.

Don't tell me we're more civilized bro. Think about it.

It's just less blatant
 
Barak Obama beginning in 2008 allowed afghan security forces to practice the systemic rape of afghan boys while under US command and even on US military bases and checkpoints.

It was called bacha bazi. Bacha bazi - Wikipedia

Joe Biden just recently ordered a drone strike in a residential area and killed seven people , mostly children and women.

Don't tell me we're more civilized bro. Think about it.

It's just less blatant
That's why you can't attach yourself to a country and put your trust in them.

Once you look around at who's running the world you realize that it's better to question everything and never trust anyone that has any power at all.

I've been told over and over that I'm a negative pile of shit and a traitor. I'm not a traitor to the human race, but I'll be damned if I'm gonna get behind those in positions of power. You'd never catch me going over to another country to kill people and those that claim it their patriotic duty clearly have no clue how powerful propaganda is.

Every high school student should be made to read Jacques Ellul's Propaganda: The Formation of Men's Attitudes. As the best means to protect the nation from getting whipped up in a frenzy and doing things that should be considered insane.

 
Franklin Roosevelt carpet bombed German population centers without any regard for human life.

Then dropped a nuke on a japanese city. No a military base, a city.

So you tell me what kind of piece of shit does that?
Roosevelt did not nuke Japan...he was dead...Truman nuked them.......we were involved in total war...our entire existence depended on victory...Japan raped and murdered millions of Chinese...Japan bombed pearl harbor...hitler bombed London civilians...Hitler murdered millions of Jews, gypsies and anyone he wanted...yes, Stalin murdered more innocent people than Hitler...you don't go into a gun fight with a knife...
 
Roosevelt did not nuke Japan...he was dead...Truman nuked them.......we were involved in total war...our entire existence depended on victory...Japan raped and murdered millions of Chinese...Japan bombed pearl harbor...hitler bombed London civilians...Hitler murdered millions of Jews, gypsies and anyone he wanted...yes, Stalin murdered more innocent people than Hitler...you don't go into a gun fight with a knife...

Roosevelt ordered carpet bombing of urban population centers all across Europe. Cities, and civilian centers. Not just military targets.

American policy allowed Russian troops to rape and pillage millions of polish, German and Ukrainian people.

Are you suggesting that "total war" means those actions are acceptable?
 
Roosevelt ordered carpet bombing of urban population centers all across Europe. Cities, and civilian centers. Not just military targets.

Are you suggesting that "total war" means those actions are acceptable?
No shocker, Hitler and Roosevelt were both democrats.
 
No shocker, Hitler and Roosevelt were both democrats.


I don't know about Hitler and Roosevelt both being Democrats

But, It's certainly fair to say they were both leftist idealistic leaders.

As was Stalin, Lenin, and Mao.

Hopefully our democrat party supporting friends here can see the common theme here between totalitarian regime and leftist dogma's.

That is to say, totalitarianism is the endgame of leftist/communist philosophies
 
No shocker, Hitler and Roosevelt were both democrats.
I wouldn't call Hitler a Democrat.

Hitler comes to power unelected. Hitler is basically a dictator who will not give up power until he puts a bullet in his brain.

He wasn't a socialist either. He believed in private property and private business. You were gonna work if you wanted money(he was against the parasite class). He wasn't so stupid as to destroy his economy.

He was against the bankers that were bleeding his country dry with high interests rates. Those bankers belonged to a clan we all know and love and he kicked them to the curb and that enraged them that they were no longer able to suck Germany dry like a parasite and so suitcases stuffed with cash went to all the right leaders across the world and war happened as you never fuck with the bankers.

It's really Joseph Goebbels that is a socialist. His ideas are hardcore against capitalism. He idolized Hitler, but he disagreed with him not getting onboard with socialism.

This Nazi stuff is really just a short movement in the history of mankind. It didn't pop up in a vacuum, it was caused by post WWI treaty that was crushing to the Germans and it was unsustainable. You can't fuck with people for years and push them in poverty without them fighting back, especially when you're dealing with perhaps the most educated people in the world at that point, they had more PhD's running around than anywhere else on the planet.

The moral of the story is, once a war is over it's best to put hard feelings aside and just go on with life. This idea that you extract your revenge only leads to more problems down the road when some other nut job pops up as a leader and sends a country off to another stupid war.
 
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