Ketamine?

[hightest]

Had my first ketamine experience with a couple of friends this weekend, just randomly strolling through the city and redosing a couple of times. VERY fun!

 

[Joseph Plunkett]

Me and @Jin23 don't always saw eye to eye and he is alot more composed than I am. We have had plenty of arguments where we have talked shit to each other on this online forum.

I'm surprised you got him this annoyed, then again. I don't blame him considering your post history.



He must think you are a real moron.

You don’t even care about the facts.

I’m done talking to you, it’s a waste of time and you’ve never actually said anything worth any true value.

I’m not even going to reply so don’t bother writing some crap post.

 

[Rido]

You don’t even care about the facts.

I’m done talking to you, it’s a waste of time and you’ve never actually said anything worth any true value.

I’m not even going to reply so don’t bother writing some crap post.

What facts? Just like your response, you spew out dumb shit half the time. I don't see any facts but just your dumb fucking opinion.

It's so ridiculous even people here that don't get along all the time are against you


You are a complete clown who thinks you are going to keep fixing your mental health issues through AAS.

Keeping trenning along bro

 

[Joseph Plunkett]

What facts? Just like your response, you spew out dumb shit half the time. I don't see any facts but just your dumb fucking opinion.

It's so ridiculous even people here that don't get along all the time are against you


You are a complete clown who thinks you are going to keep fixing your mental health issues through AAS.

Keeping trenning along bro

What facts? Just like your response, you spew out dumb shit half the time. I don't see any facts but just your dumb fucking opinion.

It's so ridiculous even people here that don't get along all the time are against you


You are a complete clown who thinks you are going to keep fixing your mental health issues through AAS.

Keeping trenning along bro

I don’t splurge out crap.

Everything I say is a combination of facts or personal experience, not some bro science.

You really are an idiot.

That’s fine though I’m not mad.

Living rent free in your head.

 

[TrenTrenTren]

But back to my original question: Does it act as a diuretics or something? I woke up weighing 5lbs less than I the day before, looking much leaner. View attachment 168493View attachment 168494View attachment 168495

Did you skip a meal or two while tripping?

 

[Rido]

I don’t splurge out crap.

Everything I say is a combination of facts or personal experience, not some bro science.

You really are an idiot.

That’s fine though I’m not mad.

Living rent free in your head.

It's complete crap back to back
Anectodal information can be broscience clown.

Renf free? You are the one who can't keep their word and said they arent going to respond.

 

[Deleted member 123722]

Did you skip a meal or two while tripping?

No, but I piss a lot, so that's why I ask.

Either way, I did my lost round of ketamine last weekend, and I'm done taking for a long time. I got my spiritual lesson from it; the last message I got was this:

"The only thing that is real, is experience."

sounds simple, but think about how profound that is...

From that, I began to write the following on my white board:



In other words, that which experiences everything has no form (the POV you have from your senses), although it seems like it is within a form (your body). All things that can experience have its own POV; although not the exact same as our, is a POV nonetheless.

So the only thing that is real, is the experience we and all conscious beings have; everything else is literally fantasy.

 

[TrenTrenTren]

No, but I piss a lot, so that's why I ask.

Either way, I did my lost round of ketamine last weekend, and I'm done taking for a long time. I got my spiritual lesson from it; the last message I got was this:

"The only thing that is real, is experience."

sounds simple, but think about how profound that is...

From that, I began to write the following on my white board:

View attachment 170580

In other words, that which experiences everything has no form (the POV you have from your senses), although it seems like it is within a form (your body). All things that can experience have its own POV; although not the exact same as our, is a POV nonetheless.

So the only thing that is real, is the experience we and all conscious beings have; everything else is literally fantasy.

Very existential of you.

 

[Deleted member 123722]

Very existential of you.

lol.

I'm a philosopher, so the nature of existence and consciousness or things that interest me....long gone are the days of getting high to socialize and bang loose women.

 

[Jin23]

No, but I piss a lot, so that's why I ask.

Either way, I did my lost round of ketamine last weekend, and I'm done taking for a long time. I got my spiritual lesson from it; the last message I got was this:

"The only thing that is real, is experience."

sounds simple, but think about how profound that is...

From that, I began to write the following on my white board:

View attachment 170580

In other words, that which experiences everything has no form (the POV you have from your senses), although it seems like it is within a form (your body). All things that can experience have its own POV; although not the exact same as our, is a POV nonetheless.

So the only thing that is real, is the experience we and all conscious beings have; everything else is literally fantasy.

This is the most fundamental state of beeing: the observer, absent of ego. It's what meditation is all about. Idk if you are educated on all of this ...

A fruitful meditation seshion leads to a state of the observer and staying in that state is then the practice of meditating. The world around you is "maya".

In any case, psychedelics are a fast track towards this state and a lot of knowledge that spiritual hindi gurus accumulate through their whole life can be had in a few years of tripping.

I always kinda put drugs in to two baskets; ego dissoluting and ego promoting. Mostly stuff that works on 5HT2c/a and NMDA will dissolve the ego and dopaminergic drugs will promote ego. But unfortunately some people just giggle and laugh when they take psych's. Not everybody is so inclined.

Unfortunately AAS are a prime example of drugs that promote ego persona. It's why I hate and mostly can't stand aas. Being on cycle is psychological pain and suffering for me.

I'm glad you found this and I hope it serves you well.

 

[Deleted member 123722]

This is the most fundamental state of beeing: the observer, absent of ego. It's what meditation is all about. Idk if you are educated on all of this ...

A fruitful meditation seshion leads to a state of the observer and staying in that state is then the practice of meditating. The world around you is "maya".

In any case, psychedelics are a fast track towards this state and a lot of knowledge that spiritual hindi gurus accumulate through their whole life can be had in a few years of tripping.

I always kinda put drugs in to two baskets; ego dissoluting and ego promoting. Mostly stuff that works on 5HT2c/a and NMDA will dissolve the ego and dopaminergic drugs will promote ego. But unfortunately some people just giggle and laugh when they take psych's. Not everybody is so inclined.

Unfortunately AAS are a prime example of drugs that promote ego persona. It's why I hate and mostly can't stand aas. Being on cycle is psychological pain and suffering for me.

I'm glad you found this and I hope it serves you well.

Yes, I'm well into the teachings; one of my biggest influences is no other than Alan Watts.

Although I'm no scholar of philosophy, once I understood the basics, everything is literally simple. Through Alan, I learned about Lao Tzu and the Tao.

Before them, I learned from Marcus Aurelius and the Stoics. I wrote my book similar to his work Meditations.

Of course I'd love to share with everyone, but then I give away my identity lol.

 

[Jin23]

Yes, I'm well into the teachings; one of my biggest influences is no other than Alan Watts.

Although I'm no scholar of philosophy, once I understood the basics, everything is literally simple. Through Alan, I learned about Lao Tzu and the Tao.

Before them, I learned from Marcus Aurelius and the Stoics. I wrote my book similar to his work Meditations.

Of course I'd love to share with everyone, but then I give away my identity lol.

How about McKenna and I personally really enjoy reading Huxley. I just love how he bashes on empiricists.

 

[MR_Midas]

Yes, I'm well into the teachings; one of my biggest influences is no other than Alan Watts.

Although I'm no scholar of philosophy, once I understood the basics, everything is literally simple. Through Alan, I learned about Lao Tzu and the Tao.

Before them, I learned from Marcus Aurelius and the Stoics. I wrote my book similar to his work Meditations.

Of course I'd love to share with everyone, but then I give away my identity lol.

Marcus Aurelius, I really like his works. Very wise words.

 

[Soloshino]

It's not like you go training while on ket. Preferably you do it on an off day. Ketamine really helps in relieving HPA overstimulation and it disolves the ego, which is already pumped to the max because of all the androgen use. So it keeps you grounded. Imo, ketamine is compatible with bodybuilding.

After reading your post, I no longer stand by what I said. I shouldn't have said that it is incompatible. All the drawbacks of ketamine for bodybuilding can be mitigated. I should also admit that I used street ketamine, so I don't know for certain how much I was using.

 

[MR_Midas]

After reading your post, I no longer stand by what I said. I shouldn't have said that it is incompatible. All the drawbacks of ketamine for bodybuilding can be mitigated. I should also admit that I used street ketamine, so I don't know for certain how much I was using.

For me, the drug is very ambiguous, but this is my opinion.

 

[TrenTrenTren]

Very existential of you.

Think about this. If the only thing that is "real" is experience, then how can one ever know what's "real"?

If you test your experience by using your senses, then how do you ever get outside of your senses to test your senses, to see if they are accurate? This is one of the problems of empiricism. You can never get outside of your senses. It leads to solipsism.

 

[Deleted member 123722]

Think about this. If the only thing that is "real" is experience, then how can one ever know what's "real"?

If you test your experience by using your senses, then how do you ever get outside of your senses to test your senses, to see if they are accurate? This is one of the problems of empiricism. You can never get outside of your senses. It leads to solipsism.

But there is no reason to believe that other minds couldn't exist outside your own, which refutes the idea there is only "you."

 

[1tank1]

Think about this. If the only thing that is "real" is experience, then how can one ever know what's "real"?

If you test your experience by using your senses, then how do you ever get outside of your senses to test your senses, to see if they are accurate? This is one of the problems of empiricism. You can never get outside of your senses. It leads to solipsism.

I really feel for you bro. I'ts clear now that STI's and STD's have spread the rot from your nutsack into your bloodstream and neurological pathways.

 

[TrenTrenTren]

But there is no reason to believe that other minds couldn't exist outside your own, which refutes the idea there is only "you."

How do you test that hypothesis (that other minds exist)? Using your senses? How do you ever get outside your sense experience to test it?

In other words, it's solipsistic.

 

[TrenTrenTren]

I really feel for you bro. I'ts clear now that STI's and STD's have spread the rot from your nutsack into your bloodstream and neurological pathways.

Haha...no...it's one of the problems of empiricism. It's well known, you can read about it.