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Russia begins invasion of Ukraine
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Well, what's worse? Being a paid professional Russian troll or being an amatuer American one that is virtually indistinguishable from the Russian troll?
In other words, you got your ass handed to you thoroughly in a debate with a Louisiana redneck.
Lmfao.
And "educated and enlightened" liberal, shown to be an idiot...
By an old Louisiana redneck.
It's hilarious
Fautquejyaille
Member
Whaouh catch me a big fish
We both know this isn't a debate. You're trolling. I would like to hope for your sake you're getting paid for it. The pics do appear authentic though.
That's bayou Maria
Literally less than 100 yards from my backyard
Ducks, catfish, crawfish and wild hogs are abundant.
If suddenly there were no grocery stores. I would still eat just fine
They're obviously authentic.
I'm not trolling anybody.
I'm giving my own observations on the subject of the thread.
Which contradict your own.
Except you can't debate me in your own words. You copy and paste propoganda bullshit.
I like the debate, I'm tired of the bullshit
Even the paid trolls in St Petersburg don't fully believe the stuff you write.
They describe their job as manufacturing lies on an assembly line. Throwing it online because they know nobody will agree with it, then they call them names and cause headaches. If they repeat it enough without much challenge, maybe it'll stick.
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I don't know anything about it.
But here's my hand after a 11 hour shift at a Louisiana manufacturing plant as a maintenance technician.
The thing is, when production machinery breaks down, maintenance people don't get to go home until it's running again.
So it was a long day.
The cuts, the bruises and the grease are just part of life for me.
But I'm not ignorant or uneducated. Even if my education didn't come from a university.
And I'll be honest with you, of you'll be honest with me.
I use aas and frequent these websites because I'm 45 years old and have a lifetime of hard labor taking a toll on my body.
My Dolly and I have raised three children on my blue collar income and our children are fine people.
I use gear to help me with the grind of heavy physical work and effort. I lift weights to make it easier and bearable.
Because I have to work at least until 55 or 65.
That's why I'm here and other bodybuilding sites.
I am exactly what I claim.
Are you?
I use aas and frequent these websites because I'm 45 years old and have a lifetime of hard labor taking a toll on my body.
My Dolly and I have raised three children on my blue collar income and our children are fine people.
I use gear to help me with the grind of heavy physical work and effort. I lift weights to make it easier and bearable.
Because I have to work at least until 55 or 65.
That's why I'm here and other bodybuilding sites.
I am exactly what I claim.
Are you?
Yes. As far as I know, the CIA doesn't have a counter to the Russian trolls, they were caught with their pants down in 2016. James Clapper was criticized for being old, outdated, and technologically inept.
Here's a pic of me at work in NYC, though it's a couple years old.
Also I'm not sure we need a counter to Russian trolling on Ukraine because the truth is so self evident. It's not like they have a leg to stand on. Like the RAND Corp says:
Russian Propaganda Makes No Commitment to Objective Reality
This next characteristic, however, flies in the face of intuition and conventional wisdom, which can be paraphrased as “The truth always wins.”Contemporary Russian propaganda makes little or no commitment to the truth. This is not to say that all of it is false. Quite the contrary: It often contains a significant fraction of the truth. Sometimes, however, events reported in Russian propaganda are wholly manufactured,
Russia's “Firehose of Falsehood” Propaganda Model
Russia's propaganda model is high-volume and multichannel, and it disseminates messages without regard for the truth. It is rapid, continuous, and repetitive, and it does not commit to consistency.
www.rand.org
I'm not sure if it's a cultural thing or if it's just what happens when a government controls their people like that. But if you've truly fallen for their admittedly manufactured lies, I wouldn't be calling yourself the smartest guy in the room.
Yes. As far as I know, the CIA doesn't have a counter to the Russian trolls, they were caught with their pants down in 2016. James Clapper was criticized for being old, outdated, and technologically inept.
Here's a pic of me at work in NYC, though it's a couple years old.
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Also I'm not sure we need a counter to Russian trolling on Ukraine because the truth is so self evident. It's not like they have a leg to stand on. Like the RAND Corp says:
Russian Propaganda Makes No Commitment to Objective Reality
This next characteristic, however, flies in the face of intuition and conventional wisdom, which can be paraphrased as “The truth always wins.”
Contemporary Russian propaganda makes little or no commitment to the truth. This is not to say that all of it is false. Quite the contrary: It often contains a significant fraction of the truth. Sometimes, however, events reported in Russian propaganda are wholly manufactured,
Russia's “Firehose of Falsehood” Propaganda Model
Russia's propaganda model is high-volume and multichannel, and it disseminates messages without regard for the truth. It is rapid, continuous, and repetitive, and it does not commit to consistency.
I'm not sure if it's a cultural thing or if it's just what happens when a government controls their people like that. But if you've truly fallen for their admittedly manufactured lies, I wouldn't be calling yourself the smartest guy in the room.
Like I keep telling you, I don't know anything about "Russian propoganda" because all the news i see anywhere I look except for a few individuals is Washington's propoganda.
Hell, you've copy and pasted at least a few score pieces of pure Washington propoganda in this debate alone.
And if you think Washington's propoganda makes any sense at all, or proved anything then I might not be smartest guy in the room, but I damn sure ain't the dumbest.
GuerillaPete
Member
Communism generally oppresses its own population for wealth and power.
Capitalism oppresses other nations population to gain wealth and power.
We are now living a synthesis of the two where capitalism starts oppressing its own also and communism starts oppressing others .
America is now starting to get a controlled freedom instead of freedom.
And a controlled freedom of speech .
You can speak your mind unless its contrary to the agenda of those in power .
And they make you believe its for your own good same as the lockdowns and the jab .
Back to the subject at hand how long do you guys think Ukraine will hold out?
Any chance they defeat the Russians?
Yes. As far as I know, the CIA doesn't have a counter to the Russian trolls, they were caught with their pants down in 2016. James Clapper was criticized for being old, outdated, and technologically inept.
Here's a pic of me at work in NYC, though it's a couple years old.
View attachment 255038
Also I'm not sure we need a counter to Russian trolling on Ukraine because the truth is so self evident. It's not like they have a leg to stand on. Like the RAND Corp says:
Russian Propaganda Makes No Commitment to Objective Reality
This next characteristic, however, flies in the face of intuition and conventional wisdom, which can be paraphrased as “The truth always wins.”
Contemporary Russian propaganda makes little or no commitment to the truth. This is not to say that all of it is false. Quite the contrary: It often contains a significant fraction of the truth. Sometimes, however, events reported in Russian propaganda are wholly manufactured,
Russia's “Firehose of Falsehood” Propaganda Model
Russia's propaganda model is high-volume and multichannel, and it disseminates messages without regard for the truth. It is rapid, continuous, and repetitive, and it does not commit to consistency.
I'm not sure if it's a cultural thing or if it's just what happens when a government controls their people like that. But if you've truly fallen for their admittedly manufactured lies, I wouldn't be calling yourself the smartest guy in the room.
It's also funny that you quote the rand corporation.
Because they had stated plans and goals to weaken the Russian federation long before the invasion
Nonviolent Ways the United States Could Exploit Russian Vulnerabilities
You're stupid to think the Russians weren't fully aware of it either. Surely they knew.
And using Ukraine to do it was part of the plan all along
Biden Confirms Why the US Needed This War
I just can't buy the bullshit that the Russian invasion of Ukraine was a "totally unprovoked act of aggression against a defenseless peaceful neighbor"
That's absolutely horseshit to even the dumbest of observers that actually care to look.
It was obviously considered by the Russians to be a preemptive strike at what they felt was a hostile advancement towards them.
Perhaps one could argue in good faith that the invasion wasn't warranted and diplomacy could have been used instead.
But they've tried diplomacy and been decieved before
They've stated as much and the evidence of it looks to me like is more reasonable than the Washington propoganda narratives
I think you've got a pretty good read on the situation as it stands.
My whole argument is based on the fact America was founded as a constitutional republic, our base constitution and society is based on those principles.
We were never meant to be an empire, and we've become one. And like all empires, we're following the same trajectory.
And I disagree with it. Empires eat themselves eventually, and that's exactly whats happening now.
As far as Ukraine, I don't believe they've ever had a chance of "winning" for themselves.
I also don't see any type of strategy or definition of what "winning" even looks like for Washington. They don't seem to have any real military strategy except to fight to the last Ukrainian in order to hurt Russia and run an all out all in propoganda campaign to sell that idea to the populations living in their sphere of influence.
If they really gave a flying fuck at all about the ukranian people, they could have easily prevented this whole thing with simple low cost diplomacy by US NATO Ukraine alliance.
They could have easily prevented Ukraine from losing any territory except Crimea who was going to vote itself back into Russia eventually anyway and they wouldn't have had to go to war at all.
As it sits now, Ukraine is going to lose for sure, it's just a matter of how much territory and how many hundreds of thousands of people are going to die to weaken Russia enough to satisfy Washington.
And I'm not sure Ukraine can even accomplish that
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So you are telling someone that has lived in communism how they should view communism?
Tell me, is this solid thought process of yours derived from you having actually lived in communism?
No, I'm not telling anybody how they should view communism. Whether they've experienced it personally or not.
I'm saying the dogmas and direction of the democrat party and the American left in general is very reflective of communist theory itself.
That is not what you said though. If you haven't lived in America and in a communist regime and experienced it yourself, don't fucking tell people who have what they must see because truth is, you have no idea just like the vast majority of Americans who have not lived in a communist regime.
