Dbol v Tbol

A lot of guys are going to get mad at this answer, but I believe tbol if far superior in most contexts. The estrogen burden alone from dbol makes it a necessity to take ancillaries with it. Tbol will give you explosive power and increased reaction time. Dbol is more anabolic, yes. In a preworkout context maybe you can get away with Dbol once or twice a week and not have issues but I’m assuming you workout more than that.

My experience is tbol has far less side effects, and gym aggression is better. If you want to look like a bloated fucking guppy dbol is perfect for you.
 
A lot of guys are going to get mad at this answer, but I believe tbol if far superior in most contexts. The estrogen burden alone from dbol makes it a necessity to take ancillaries with it. Tbol will give you explosive power and increased reaction time. Dbol is more anabolic, yes. In a preworkout context maybe you can get away with Dbol once or twice a week and not have issues but I’m assuming you workout more than that.

My experience is tbol has far less side effects, and gym aggression is better. If you want to look like a bloated fucking guppy dbol is perfect for you.
How'd you find the water retention on tbol?

Also wondering how it affects the lipids, and how the liver toxicity compares to other oral.

Been debating throwing it into the next bulk cycle, the reviews on it seem to be mostly positive. Just don't have any experience with it personally
 
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How'd you find the water retention on tbol?

Also wondering how it effects the lipids, and how the liver toxicity compares to other oral.

Been debating throwing it into the next bulk cycle, the reviews on it seem to be mostly positive. Just don't have any experience with it personally
I get next to no water retention from it, doesn’t aromatize. I found that it’s one of those orals that doesn’t really give a cosmetic effect, it just increases strength and power output. But I like it in a bulking context because better gym performance equals more growth. It’s a lot less harsh in the lipids compared to anavar, but slightly more liver toxic so there’s a trade off. 50mgs a day 4-5 weeks is absolutely reasonable. It won’t make you look much different, but it absolutely compliments your injectables. It also has a very interesting blood thinning effect. I’m a carpenter, I cut myself open all the time, doing many different things. When I ran tbol my blood was like water, I would just be leaking everywhere lol.
 
Which would you choose and why ?

Taking it pre-workout only, looking to add strength and lean muscle mass.
*stacked w/ Test C

Thanks for the feedback
Two very different animals, and to me in no way comparable. If I was looking for more drive and workout endurance, tbol. If I was looking to just put on size, dbol. If you'd ask me which is the perfect preworkout... uh none of the above? Even though I like dbol for breakfast but for totally different reasons.
 
Two very different animals, and to me in no way comparable. If I was looking for more drive and workout endurance, tbol. If I was looking to just put on size, dbol. If you'd ask me which is the perfect preworkout... uh none of the above? Even though I like dbol for breakfast but for totally different reasons.
I think people confuse the dbol bloat with size and that’s something to keep in mind. I agree with the majority of what you said. I think anavar is the superior pwo oral, but tbol can get the job done no doubt.
 
Yup anavar is a great PWO. Also anadrol/superdrol.
Yeah superdrol is a lot of fun, adds ridiculous fullness,vascularity and strength.

Also spikes my BP and gives me occasional nosebleeds. Other than that.. great stuff. Might incorporate some soon at a low dose
 
Yeah superdrol is a lot of fun, adds ridiculous fullness,vascularity and strength.

Also spikes my BP and gives me occasional nosebleeds. Other than that.. great stuff. Might incorporate some soon at a low dose
I’ve never tried it as I like to be fairly cautious. Is it really as toxic as the bro lore makes it out to be?
 
I’ve never tried it as I like to be fairly cautious. Is it really as toxic as the bro lore makes it out to be?
On the Liver? Yeah.. pretty toxic. Probably should supplement a liver support supplement while on it to be safe

Probably not great on the lipids either, but a 4 week cycle is manageable on both aspects I feel like

The gains are pretty ridiculous too
 
On the Liver? Yeah.. pretty toxic

Probably not great on the lipids either, but a 4 week cycle is manageable on both aspects I feel like

The gains are pretty ridiculous too
Ahh it’s tempting, but I’m still getting my toes wet. 2 years enhanced. I’ll save the superdrol for when I can find a justifiable reason to use it. Sounds awesome tho.
 
Superdrol is a rare treat for me. I can't handle it for more than 3 consecutive days without my stomach feeling like shit, but DAMN the effect in the gym for me is second to none. It's like an anti-gravity pill, stuff just feels lighter and the pump / post workout feel is euphoric.
 
I haven’t don’t Tbol yet but it’s on my list to try latter this year. For what it’s worth I’m a big fan of Dbol. Reason being it makes you stronger, quickly too.
Some guys will say all steroids accrue muscle at the same rate, (a study that was done.) I’m not sure if I 100% believe that but for the sake of the argument let’s say they do. 50 dbol vs 50 Tbol
So if dbol increases strength more (via personal response) moving more weight on the same androgen load will lead to more hypertrophy progressive overload 101. That is why I choose it, and drol. It does come down to personal preference which you’ll get from experimenting.
 
I wrote my own review of Turinabol, so to not repeat it all. I will paste a link. It's a longish text, but some people might find it useful.

(DON'T MIND THE SNAPSHOT TEXT, CLICK THE LINK IT WILL TAKE YOU TO THE RIGHT POST #60)

 
Has anyone tried the crushed under the tongue method with orals ?
Sublingual administration is what you’re referring to. It’s the only way I take orals, peak blood plasma level occur within 60-90 minutes. You have to wait until the entire tablet/capsule is dissolved entirely to get the full effect.
 

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