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[AlexDavis43]

I have an off meso source that has similar HGH prices to Q, and I've used many kits myself with "feels" falling within expectations. I've been thinking about getting a Jano test, but don't know enough people personally that want to pitch in for a group test and it's hard to send Jano my money when I could just buy like 10 more kits lol. If anyone is interested, PM me.

Iirc @Ateam2023 found an hGH source on AliExpress that tested well.

 

[AlexDavis43]

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He's guessing, to keep traffic in his thread.

 

[MadaFacor]

Iirc @Ateam2023 found an hGH source on AliExpress that tested well.

How can Allie express get me pen cartridges,.delivered from China, through customs,.in one week and every Chinese lab takes a goddamn month. And before anyone pipes in, yes, I know it's not Amazon. But if Allie can get pen carts through then the labs gotta up there game.

 

[AlexDavis43]

How can Allie express get me pen cartridges,.delivered from China, through customs,.in one week and every Chinese lab takes a goddamn month. And before anyone pipes in, yes, I know it's not Amazon. But if Allie can get pen carts through then the labs gotta up there game.

Ali is much more similar to Amazon than Chinese gear sources.

 

[TRTBro]

I'll set aside the other health benefits for a sec, that's a complicated topic.

What do you say to the BBs who ask for advice on appetite boosting compounds, because they find it physically impossible to eat enough calories to meet their goals?

Food seems completely unappetizing, their throats close up, get gastric reflux, want to puke (and may do so) at the thought of eating one more bite:

Then, they use one appetite boosting compound or another, and suddenly they can eat plenty more.

Shouldn't they be able to "willpower" through it without using a drug to help, yet it's described as physically and psychologically impossible for them.

I'm not being sarcastic or argumentative, just changing the angle.

If an appetite booster allows them to eat, shouldn't it be possible without that just through willpower? That dynamic seems to indicate there's a powerful energy intake regulating mechanism that's capable of physically and psychologically stop you from eating pretty effectively, and presumably exerts an equally strong effect when it wants you to eat.

I was one of those skinny dudes after some health issues and managed to put it back on, obviously I used PEDs but it wasn't a final solution. I still had to eat clean, go to the gym, actually lift heavy, still do cardio and put in work to gain muscle. Now its about maintaining habits.

Losing weight is a little different, you are consuming less and therefore spending less too (4000 calorie bulk vs 2000 calorie cut), probably lifting less but doing more cardio depending on your final goal. Both sides have a mental aspect to it for sure, but in terms of effort it seems easier to me to lose weight.

What happens when these people come off GLPs but habits haven't changed?

 

[AlexDavis43]

What happens when these people come off GLPs but habits haven't changed?

Just like with every other thing. If you go back to eating like shit, you'll regain the weight.

Some studies show with relatively modest diet & lifestyle interventions, post-GLP1 weight regain can be attenuated.

But you gotta use the time on drug to establish better lifestyle habits.

 

[TRTBro]

Just like with every other thing. If you go back to eating like shit, you'll regain the weight.

Some studies show with relatively modest diet & lifestyle interventions, post-GLP1 weight regain can be attenuated.

But you gotta use the time on drug to establish better lifestyle habits.

IMO its much easier to establish healthier eating habits and some cardio (weight loss) vs. weight gain) healthier eating habits, making consistent time for the gym, lifting heavy, paying for more food, etc.

 

[Proud_papa_pump]

Just like with every other thing. If you go back to eating like shit, you'll regain the weight.

Some studies show with relatively modest diet & lifestyle interventions, post-GLP1 weight regain can be attenuated.

But you gotta use the time on drug to establish better lifestyle habits.

Don’t forget, Tirz is down to $30-50 a month. Since you will likely save way more than that in food costs, it can easily be a lifetime med. You can even do a PCT with Cagri, and then restart at much lower doses and still get a good effect. Plus Reta seems to improve so many biomarkers, it might be the closest to a miracle drug we have ever seen.

 

[AlexDavis43]

IMO its much easier to establish healthier eating habits and some cardio (weight loss) vs. weight gain) healthier eating habits, making consistent time for the gym, lifting heavy, paying for more food, etc.

Losing weight is much easier than gaining weight?

What planet are you from

surely not the one with an obesity pandemic

 

[TRTBro]

Losing weight is much easier than gaining weight?

What planet are you from

surely not the one with an obesity pandemic

Both sides have mental aspects, but mental aspects aside its way easier to lose weight in terms of physical requirements.

 

[BamaCrazy]

Both sides have mental aspects, but mental aspects aside its way easier to lose weight in terms of physical requirements.

Please explain these physical requirements that make losing weight easier than gaining. Maybe physically locked in a cage with no food?

 

[TRTBro]

Please explain these physical requirements that make losing weight easier than gaining. Maybe physically locked in a cage with no food?

Well for one you need money for proper food. Think about how much a body builder spends on healthy food vs a GLP soccer mom. Food isn't free.

 

[LGOP528]

Both sides have mental aspects, but mental aspects aside its way easier to lose weight in terms of physical requirements.

You can’t say mental aspects aside. That is the most difficult part.

Food addiction is one of the toughest addiction to overcome because you can not abstain from it. Imagine telling a coke addict that he is only allowed 3 lines a day and no more.

 

[TRTBro]

You can’t say mental aspects aside. That is the most difficult part.

Food addiction is one of the toughest addiction to overcome because you can not abstain from it. Imagine telling a coke addict that he is only allowed 3 lines a day and no more.

I mean there are mental aspects on both sides - Imagine telling someone who throws up after each meal they have to double there food intake and not throw up? I'm not denying they don't exist but those are subjective no? Who am I to say the mental aspects of anorexia are worse than obesity?

From a physical standpoint - it requires more to gain. Mental is subjective.

 

[LGOP528]

I mean there are mental aspects on both sides - Imagine telling someone who throws up after each meal they have to double there food intake and not throw up? I'm not denying they don't exist but those are subjective no? Who am I to say the mental aspects of anorexia are worse than obesity?

From a physical standpoint - it requires more to gain. Mental is subjective.

Some people deal with addiction better than others but the neurological pathways are not subjective. They become strengthened over time and correcting them takes time too.

 

[glpfun]

The best way to cure addiction to something is give them another thing to get addicted to that is stronger

- Tony Montana
Michael Scott

 

[Swolemates365]

Losing weight is much easier than gaining weight?

What planet are you from

surely not the one with an obesity pandemic

Fuck yeah it is!! Loosing weight is so much easier!! It’s hard as hell to shove all the food I need to grow, especially if it’s healthy food!

 

[Dirthand]

Fuck yeah it is!! Loosing weight is so much easier!! It’s hard as hell to shove all the food I need to grow, especially if it’s healthy food!

I think it was about gaining weight in general not trying to gain lean muscle mass. As someone who gain 100lbs in 9 months and then lost 90 of it in 13months (no glp) I can tell you losing is 1000x harder than gaining and anyone who thinks otherwise is a stupid mother fucker.. imo

 

[powdered_toast_man]

I mean there are mental aspects on both sides - Imagine telling someone who throws up after each meal they have to double there food intake and not throw up? I'm not denying they don't exist but those are subjective no? Who am I to say the mental aspects of anorexia are worse than obesity?

From a physical standpoint - it requires more to gain. Mental is subjective.

I lose weight whenever I back off from lifting, but my body composition is always worse.

 

[chmuse]

The best way to cure addiction to something is give them another thing to get addicted to that is stronger

- Tony Montana
Michael Scott

That's how I ended up on forums.