PED Strategy for 70 y/o Diabetic Dad Looking to Reignite Health

[pepe_]

Looking for some advice or shared experiences regarding PED use for older individuals. My 70-year-old father wants to get back in the gym and drop some weight. Right now, he’s got zero energy, his joints hurt even during bodyweight squats, and he’s struggling with motivation.

He’s also a diabetic, currently taking 100–120 units of insulin daily, which is obviously a major factor.

That said, about 10 years ago, when he was 60, he ran a light cycle of:

• Test-E 100mg,
• Tren Ace 50mg,
• Deca 100mg
  —every 4 days.

He went from a bloated 230 lbs to 175 lbs, got strong, felt great, and reported zero sides at the time. He absolutely loved how he felt and looked.

Now he’s asking me what he could run again—not to get jacked, just to feel alive, move again, and drop fat. I’m trying to help him do this safely and smart. TRT? Low-dose stack? Something to support joints and improve insulin sensitivity?

Any insight on best practices for older diabetics using AAS or related compounds—especially considering his joint pain, insulin use, and age—would be hugely appreciated.

 

[DugPrime]

T1D or T2D? What's his bf? Any current health problems?.

 

[pepe_]

T1D or T2D? What's his bf? Any current health problems?

He’s type 2 diabetic and sitting around 30% body fat. Strong for his age and size.

Surprisingly, no major health issues beyond low motivation and chronic joint pain.

He walks 30–60 minutes daily, eats around 2,000–2,300 calories, and stays active in his own way—grocery shopping 5 days a week and spending 3+ hours in the kitchen every day (cooking is his passion).

 

[pepe_]

Looking for some advice or shared experiences regarding PED use for older individuals. My 70-year-old father wants to get back in the gym and drop some weight. Right now, he’s got zero energy, his joints hurt even during bodyweight squats, and he’s struggling with motivation.

He’s also a diabetic, currently taking 100–120 units of insulin daily, which is obviously a major factor.

That said, about 10 years ago, when he was 60, he ran a light cycle of:

• Test-E 100mg,
• Tren Ace 50mg,
• Deca 100mg
  —every 4 days.

He went from a bloated 230 lbs to 175 lbs, got strong, felt great, and reported zero sides at the time. He absolutely loved how he felt and looked.

Now he’s asking me what he could run again—not to get jacked, just to feel alive, move again, and drop fat. I’m trying to help him do this safely and smart. TRT? Low-dose stack? Something to support joints and improve insulin sensitivity?

Any insight on best practices for older diabetics using AAS or related compounds—especially considering his joint pain, insulin use, and age—would be hugely appreciated.

If he can get that spark back, I have no doubt he’d hit the gym with the same enthusiasm he had during his first run.

 

[Manualtrt]

First options I would consider would be: Glp1 + TRT

Then depending on the extent the spark is back/ joint pain relief required add therapeutic deca (probably at the c.50mg levels)

Obviously with before and follow up bloods and active management of T2D

 

[ThinBulk]

Is he not able to get TRT through his doc at 70? How is his prostate and cac score? If those two are both good, an easy start would be 100mg/wk of test and 50mg deca.

Once he drops weight he could add 1.5-2iu hgh before bed. I have no idea how that would work with a type 1 diabetic, but it will impact insulin resistance negatively. I assume not as much as being overweight and not working out though.

 

[DugPrime]

He’s type 2 diabetic and sitting around 30% body fat. Strong for his age and size.

Surprisingly, no major health issues beyond low motivation and chronic joint pain.

He walks 30–60 minutes daily, eats around 2,000–2,300 calories, and stays active in his own way—grocery shopping 5 days a week and spending 3+ hours in the kitchen every day (cooking is his passion).

The best thing to do at the moment would be to hop on Tirzepatide/TRT, and losing fat until 10-12% bf.

 

[Mrhairyman]

Recent blood work ?

 

[pepe_]

Recent blood work ?

He’s terrible about going to the doctor, what would be the tests you recommend?

 

[pepe_]

Recent blood work ?

He did have a t test it was like 300/40 I believe

 

[17SS]

He’s terrible about going to the doctor, what would be the tests you recommend?

If you’re in the US I would use Fitomics.com.

 

[ThinBulk]

He’s terrible about going to the doctor, what would be the tests you recommend?

Doctor should do a full standard panel as routine. A1C.

Have him ask for a CAC (coronary artery calcium) scan. It will give a ballpark of cardiovascular health/damage. Imo the scan is where my AAS tolerance would come from. It's the first step to seeing if you're plaqued up. Especially in older age.

 

[Nidus]

Looking for some advice or shared experiences regarding PED use for older individuals. My 70-year-old father wants to get back in the gym and drop some weight. Right now, he’s got zero energy, his joints hurt even during bodyweight squats, and he’s struggling with motivation.

He’s also a diabetic, currently taking 100–120 units of insulin daily, which is obviously a major factor.

That said, about 10 years ago, when he was 60, he ran a light cycle of:

• Test-E 100mg,
• Tren Ace 50mg,
• Deca 100mg
  —every 4 days.

He went from a bloated 230 lbs to 175 lbs, got strong, felt great, and reported zero sides at the time. He absolutely loved how he felt and looked.

Now he’s asking me what he could run again—not to get jacked, just to feel alive, move again, and drop fat. I’m trying to help him do this safely and smart. TRT? Low-dose stack? Something to support joints and improve insulin sensitivity?

Any insight on best practices for older diabetics using AAS or related compounds—especially considering his joint pain, insulin use, and age—would be hugely appreciated.

For Insulin Sensitivity:

Metformin, Jardiance/Forxiga (SLGT2) and Pioglitazone. Add Retra on top and you can easily reverse T2D.
Also recommending adding some L-Carnitine, injectable as your Tryg. will be quite high for sure.

Can totally do all of this on TRT levels.

And then a good diet!

 

[Mrhairyman]

He’s terrible about going to the doctor, what would be the tests you recommend?

Test Codes:

6399-CBC (Includes Differential And Platelets)
5363-PSA, Total
90839-Comprehensive Metabolic Panel, Plasma
873-Testosterone, Total, Males (Adult), Immunoassay
4021-Estradiol
7600-Lipid Panel, Standard

 

[pepe_]

Is he not able to get TRT through his doc at 70? How is his prostate and cac score? If those two are both good, an easy start would be 100mg/wk of test and 50mg deca.

Once he drops weight he could add 1.5-2iu hgh before bed. I have no idea how that would work with a type 1 diabetic, but it will impact insulin resistance negatively. I assume not as much as being overweight and not working out though.

He tried to get his doctor to get him trt but his levels were like 300ng/dl and he said no