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Many offer themAny of these offer Clen Pens, and GH Pens?
Hate the 50 mcg tabs and daily syringe pinning. I've used Syn and Oxygen but neither of them have either of the above sadly.
Sorry just isn't believable, why did you contact Syn then and tell them, get them to resend you or look into it?I didn't do bloodwork beforehand but after lipids shbg e2 and total test everything was the same or similar as my bloodwork back in augest, blood pressure was the same. Total waste of money from Syn I mean right after Syn I ordered from Helion straight away.
I don’t entirely trust Helion either but I didn’t ask for a refund for syn, I contacted syndist and said their stuff was either severely underdosed or fake. I buy these products until I find a good source that works, so far I haven’t had good luck with ugl.Sorry just isn't believable, why did you contact Syn then and tell them, get them to resend you or look into it?
You pump Helion allot then bash another place with no hard proof; Syn has been in the game along time, I don't see many bad things about them other then prices, however if your doing gear you should be paying for the best of the best.
Not just relaying blood work you never had done, then all of a sudden had it done, yet offered no proof.
All good though
Testing looks great on paper, but years worth of reputable reviews of people using the products with bloods to prove….well that sounds a whole lot more valuable to me.Another thing, syn hasn’t done Janoshik testing on most things until way back in 2023, other than that a lot of people are saying syn has gone downhill
Is there a thread for Innovagen/PGAnabolics/CanadaPeds? Would like to check them out don't want to rely on Google for a legit link to their website and suchInnovagen (Long standing UGL - lots of variety)
PGAnabolics (Long standing source - lots of variety and pharma)
CanadaPeds (Longstanding source - lots of vaariety, SYN and Pharma)
Oxygen (Pareto V2)
Used all 4 above for years with success
Is there a thread for Innovagen/PGAnabolics/CanadaPeds? Would like to check them out don't want to rely on Google for a legit link to their website and such
How do you see primo or var on your bloods?Testing looks great on paper, but years worth of reputable reviews of people using the products with bloods to prove….well that sounds a whole lot more valuable to me.
I’ve used their test for TRT with bloods every 3 months for years, with zero issues.
It’s as good as it was when I first tried it.
At the end of the day do whatever you want, there’s lots of good alternatives that stack up just the same.
You can’t directly say it’s X compound from bloodwork alone, the closest you can come is how it affects your bloods. If you’ve ran any of those compounds and you’ve done bloodwork before/after/during, you typically know how they affect your bloodwork. Use that data for future reference, match it up with others etc.How do you see primo or var on your bloods?
Tren, winstrol and deca? You base it off sides? What about compounds with the similar effects?
Are you getting masteron, eq for that expensive primo? No matter how you spin it, proper tests are the only way to know you’re getting the proper compounds and dosage advertised from ugl.
This is where the canadian ugl market is behind the US scene.
Then join a testing group, send raws or brew and send finished product is what I want to say.You can’t directly say it’s X compound from bloodwork alone, the closest you can come is how it affects your bloods. If you’ve ran any of those compounds and you’ve done bloodwork before/after/during, you typically know how they affect your bloodwork. Use that data for future reference, match it up with others etc.
How do you know that the posted testing of the raws are exactly what you’re taking? You don’t, unless you send in your individual product yourself. There’s a point to both sides, neither are wrong. You’re just putting trust in the lab that you’re getting what was tested.
If you want to know exactly what you’re taking, spend the money and send it in yourself..but you won’t, and most of us won’t either.
It’s agreeable what you’re saying as well. Proper testing in the individual products in hand will give you what you want to know.
There was a time a short few months ago where people held ugls to the fire , I haven't been seeing this anymore, what i do see is a bunch of newer people getting upset if someone puts a lab down or calls them out.1) China domestic warehouse
We got HYB and maybe SSA. Last I asked SSA they said they got nothing in Canada.
2) Buy from China
It's very hard to get stuff across the border right now, packages are getting caught.
The syn and pareto and all other longstading Canadian sources mentioned here are not competitive in 2025.
Most of them don't do labs, it's mostly just Gary sniffing it, saying “yeah that smells like test e”, and slapping a hologram on it like it’s legitimate. You’re not just buying gear, you’re funding someones side hustle between call of duty matches.
Prices are ridiculous with or without testing. China costs a fraction of what Canadian labs charge.
You should be starting your own thread for this conversation.You’re talking to the wrong person about it lol. I’m not sure where quoting me is going with thisThen join a testing group, send raws or brew and send finished product is what I want to say.
I am just pointing out that these local sources can screw consumers easily without testing and nobody can prove it.
Hence, we’re here in Meso where sources are more than likely going to cheat you since people test their products all the time and that chances to get caught is higher.
You should make a thread for this.Has anyone used and/or know the legitimacy/accuracy of the roidtest kits available? They are cheaper than jano and while I get that they aren't going to show the amount in the product I believe the goal of the kits is to prove whether the product is/isn't what you paid for.
True I guess only thing it's gonna tell you if its completely bunk, guessing they could easily sprinkle in a dusting of rear product in and it would pass.You should make a thread for this.
With that said, it only shows a color wheel basicslly. What does that mean?
It means it just shows there's said chemical in what your testing, it doesn't show the percentage, so any ugl could just put 5% and it would show up for example..
Well said1) China domestic warehouse
We got HYB and maybe SSA. Last I asked SSA they said they got nothing in Canada.
2) Buy from China
It's very hard to get stuff across the border right now, packages are getting caught.
The syn and pareto and all other longstading Canadian sources mentioned here are not competitive in 2025.
Most of them don't do labs, it's mostly just Gary sniffing it, saying “yeah that smells like test e”, and slapping a hologram on it like it’s legitimate. You’re not just buying gear, you’re funding someones side hustle between call of duty matches.
Prices are ridiculous with or without testing. China costs a fraction of what Canadian labs charge.
