No more nandrolone for me

Like @RockyP said - How much NPP/deca were you running, and what else do/did you have in the mix ??

Seen people that have run test + deca several times, with No problems - then they add a bit Mast and it triggers massive anxiety - they split with the wife etc…just madness - is it the Nandrolone/ is it Mast, or a synergi between them - idk…
My personal opinion is every AAS user should keep antipsychotics on hand, and tell someone close to them that they have them.

They are shit drugs for long term use, but they can quickly bring sanity back, typically in a week.
 
Always loved deca/npp never had bad sides with it just yesterday bought more npp to keep the stash full and today woke up out of breath RHR 120 panic anxiety no idea what it was muscle craps heart palpitations all the nasty stuff .. what a shame looks like I have to give up on nandrolone..
Psych meds are your friend. They don't get enough attention in the AAS world for reasons I don't fully understand.
 
Dude, you're just asking for mania and/or psychosis.
I never mixed them together but yes using any of them made me very short tempered
Psych meds are your friend. They don't get enough attention in the AAS world for reasons I don't fully understand.
that’s a good one..
I actually used them prior to steroids and used some of them on heavy cycles that deplet serotonin etc.. I have a stash of few of them just in case always ssri sdnri all the hybrid ones and of course Wellbutrin the saver but what you did there it’s the same what doctors do tell your symptoms to the doctor you will get antidepressants no matter if you actually need them he will not check blood work or anything else ..
I don’t need psych meds it wasn’t panic attack or anxiety it’s something else as for right now I think it’s the nandrolone but I will do some blood work soon I get the feeling that it also might be allergic reaction to something and I hope it’s just that cause I love nandrolone..
This is a joke...right?
No joke I don’t like pre supplements
Little bit of flower and viagra and you get amazing workout
 
There are very user friendly home sleep tests that use an app, smart watch device, pulse ox, and a few leads on your chest. You can use private companies or try to go through a sleep center. Beware, there may be long lead times for insurance coverage. I had severe OSA and had to fight with insurance for weeks and weeks to get the right machine approved, then had to wait on the home health agency that the insurance contracted with to get me the supplies. It may be faster (but not cheaper) to go through a private company. Once you get your machine the settings are important. About 15% of people will not tolerate the auto CPAP settings that come standard on the machines (sounds great on paper, it senses what pressure you need and gives it - but I was one of the 15% and the pressure was too high and ended up waking me up more than the apnea).
Did you need a BIPAP machine instead? I suspect this is my issues and the cpap, even on autoset and trying EVERY setting imaginable (EPR off, EPR max, everything in between, etc...) thr machine would wake me up within minutes of me falling asleep, and with a good amount of anxiety to boot. Just couldn't get cpap to work, and without a script, BIPAP is just too expensive for me.


I was getting pretty severe spikes in HR and anxiety a few years ago, and while I didn't trace it back to a specific compound, and I wasn't on nandrolone, I'm pretty sure it was gear related. Miserable feeling to lose control like that. The insomnia was terrible for me. This is still something I have a difficult time understanding, but after weeks of it happening nearly nightly, vitamin D3/K2 supplementation made it go away for ever. Could have been coincidental, but to this day I personally believe it helped.
 
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Did you need a BIPAP machine instead? I suspect this is my issues and the cpap, even on autoset and trying EVERY setting imaginable (EPR off, EPR max, everything in between, etc...) thr machine would wake me up within minutes of me falling asleep, and with a good amount of anxiety to boot. Just couldn't get cpap to work, and without a script, BIPAP is just too expensive for me.


I was getting pretty severe spikes in HR and anxiety a few years ago, and while I didn't trace it back to a specific compound, and I wasn't on nandrolone, I'm pretty sure it was gear related. Miserable feeling to lose control like that. The insomnia was terrible for me. This is still something I have a difficult time understanding, but after weeks of it happening nearly nightly, vitamin D3/K2 supplementation made it go away for ever. Could have been coincidental, but to this day I personally believe it helped.
I got a different CPAP but ONLY after waiting 6 months for an in house overnight sleep study where the doc could calibrate the machine properly. That was a very long, awful 6 months.
 
I got a different CPAP but ONLY after waiting 6 months for an in house overnight sleep study where the doc could calibrate the machine properly. That was a very long, awful 6 months.
There’s a big community of people on Reddit and elsewhere hacking their CPAP machines and tuning their settings themselves. Seems like a lot of therapeutic value is being left on the table with most people running default settings.
 
Would highly recommend all PED users get a sleep study. Even if you’re shredded / not fat / not big. The hormones can cause hypertrophy of soft tissue / tonsils / airway structures. If you already have OSA, PEDs will Make it worse.
yep, I was probably on that track anyway, but PEDs seem to have accelerated the progress considerably. It’s my least favorite side effect so far by a large margin.
 
The only benefit of having osa is that it get my asshole
by the time I got to this point in the sentence, I was a little confused…and very intrigued.

So you get the caviar pharma Tirz pens on insurance’s dime?

Noice Split Depth GIF by MOODMAN
 
by the time I got to this point in the sentence, I was a little confused…and very intrigued.

So you get the caviar pharma Tirz pens on insurance’s dime?

Noice Split Depth GIF by MOODMAN
Yessir. At least for now. I think they have unilaterally decided to stop paying for GLP-1’s for any non diabetics. I may be able to run it through the end of the year but then will have to pay up
 
Psych meds are your friend. They don't get enough attention in the AAS world for reasons I don't fully understand.
I’m taking a bupropion/dextromethorphan mix and one of the interesting side effects is that other psychoactive meds don’t affect me as much. Every now and then I see a couple of old friends who enjoy THC, and they’ll talk me into a gummy or whatever, and it kind of rolls right off me except for the hunger. I haven’t noticed any negative mental sides from any AAS compound so far, though I haven’t run Tren long term yet so I’m sure there’s some surprise waiting for me there. Pramipexole worked the same way when I took it.

I’m definitely not suggesting that my fellow travelers on the anabolic journey self-prescribe psych meds as a prophylaxis against the Nandrolone blues if they don’t otherwise need them. And, for example, bupropion can cause anxiety on its own. But on the other hand, they prescribe it to help people quit smoking. So I guess I’m not NOT recommending that anybody experiencing mental sides at least research that sort of thing if they can’t just switch steroids to resolve the issue.

Hell, we take caber to keep our nips mild, and get a few more rounds in the bedroom before the refractory period kicks in, but dopamine receptor agonists like caber and prami are far scarier than little old bupropion/wellbutrin. Look up DAWS - not a fun time. Prami and caber can also cause compulsive behaviors like gambling, sex, and spending. That’s what I blame my watch, knife, and AAS collections on if my wife asks. And people are taking those like they’re Tylenol.

So I guess my point is that if we’re doing one or two or three unwise and reckless polypharmaceutical things, what’s the harm in a fourth? (in b4 combinatorial math appears)
 

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