EQ for the first time

[Damaged1]

shit country, simple as that sadly its the best i can get

Can you do PrivateMDLabs.com where you are at?

 

[dinfar1337]

Can you do PrivateMDLabs.com where you are at?

nope brother im in the eu

this is the best i will ever get. whatever private hospitals/private labs there are here they're limited to rules by sending it off to official healthcare which have set the rules. sadly they limit private testing you can pay for.

 

[Damaged1]

Partial labs just came in. My crit looks good.

 

[Damaged1]

Prolactin just came back 6.3
SHBG 13

Running NPP and Tren so I thought prolactin might be higher.

 

[Banana Joe]

calipers are good for "trends" , but vary alot, calipers "assume a fixed relationship between sub q fat and visceral fat (which varies by age,sex and genetics) And is less accurate in very lean or obese individuals, Operator skill etc, alot of factors to play with using calipers , quality of calipers, also, Get a Dexa and be rid of all suspected bf % measurements..

I don't disagree, but a caliper basically costs nothing per measurement, whereas a Dexa will cost quite a bit each time. Same goes for a tape to measure my waist. If waist circumference is constant, and my caliper measurement on belly button is - chances are my BF is also constant. I don't really care if I am off by 2% in that case.

 

[SnowyMiami]

I wouldn't call myself fat. As noted in my first post (which it appears you didn't read) I have visible upper abs but have not done a dexa recently since I've been spending a lot of money on labwork.

Interesting how instead of asking if I was fat and being helpful, you matter-of-factly said "its because you are fat".
You then assume that even if I were fat I probably would add more compounds instead of losing weight (even had someone been kind enough to offer helpful advice).

Everything ok with you? You sound angry...
You should look into what is causing this and get some help whether it's drugs or some mental issue. I'm happy to support you in any way I can.

240 pounds at 6'5" and asking noobie questions = fat

 

[Ateam2023]

240 pounds at 6'5" and asking noobie questions = fat

imagine thinking height+weight= full body analysis. "GENIUS stuff"

 

[Mastedon]

240 pounds at 6'5" and asking noobie questions = fat

I'm not sure why you think someone cannot be tall & muscular and at the same time be new to this. It's the response of someone who seems to have trouble with even the simplest level of critical thinking.

Also, it's clear you have anger or some other issues and I suspect you have ruined many relationships over the years because of it. I hope you get the help that you need because there's a lot more to life than being miserable and dying alone.

 

[cap’nboldenone]

You guys aren’t gonna believe this but I love EQ. I’m not a *super* high aromatizer, but I get high e2 sides really easily - I’m moody and full of water at 50pg/ml. Running EQ at 75-80% of my test dose keeps my estrogen exactly where I like it.

Ok I'm 3 weeks in and I decided to not to go up to 350 test as I originally proposed. I was running 300 test in August and I already had to take aromasin. I also decided to increase the EQ to see if I can drop the aromasin.

So I've done three weeks of 300 test and 540 EQ (weird EQ number I know its just how my 6 days a week pin schedule works for me). If I have to drop the test to 250 to control estrogen I'll do that but hopefully the 540 EQ handles that.

Not adding in any NPP or Mast at this point because I want the labs to show results of just the impact of EQ since I've never ran it before.
Not adding in anything else has been difficult because being three weeks in I'm not really feeling any different with the EQ and have been super tempted from the start to add tbol or anavar for the first 4-8 weeks but I'm holding strong lol.

Have you noticed any reduction in how much ai you have to take? Even with the long ester, EQ is 90% saturated within 2 weeks, and the ai effect typically already shows up by then.

 

[Damaged1]

240 pounds at 6'5" and asking noobie questions = fat

Ok I feel like this is just trolling at this point.

 

[Ateam2023]

 

[Mastedon]

Have you noticed any reduction in how much ai you have to take? Even with the long ester, EQ is 90% saturated within 2 weeks, and the ai effect typically already shows up by then.

No reduction in ai yet. In fact a couple days I had to take 25mg aromasin instead of the 12.5mg I've been on since bumping up my test.
I don't get spicy nips like other guys say they do, I get an itchy chest, right at my sternum.
Week 1 was 300 test / 350 eq, week 2 was 300/500, week 3 was 300/600 and I'm in the middle of week 4 at 300/600. My plan is to stick with the 300/600 though week 16 but maybe add in NPP at week 8 or 10 or 12 depending on how I'm feeling.

 

[Damaged1]

No reduction in ai yet. In fact a couple days I had to take 25mg aromasin instead of the 12.5mg I've been on since bumping up my test.
I don't get spicy nips like other guys say they do, I get an itchy chest, right at my sternum.
Week 1 was 300 test / 350 eq, week 2 was 300/500, week 3 was 300/600 and I'm in the middle of week 4 at 300/600. My plan is to stick with the 300/600 though week 16 but maybe add in NPP at week 8 or 10 or 12 depending on how I'm feeling.

I’m still waiting on the sensitive estrogen test to come back but I dialed in my test/primo dose by feels.
I landed on this at week 6
Test 600
NPP 500
Primo 600

Prolactin is good so I will start tapering down NPP and tapering up Deca

 

[Damaged1]

I wonder if I could start adding in some EQ now just to see how I get along with it?

Anyone else run EQ and Primo together?

 

[BigDadd7]

I wonder if I could start adding in some EQ now just to see how I get along with it?

Anyone else run EQ and Primo together?

Just feeling like doing something pointless and dumb, or is there a deeper reason?

 

[Damaged1]

Just feeling like doing something pointless and dumb, or is there a deeper reason?

I mean it might be pointless and dumb but I am planning to swap primo for EQ on my next cycle but thinking it might be good to do a small test to see how I tolerate first since I’ve never used it.
Is that dumb? That’s why flesh out ideas here where people can tell us we are being dumb

 

[RockyP]

I mean it might be pointless and dumb but I am planning to swap primo for EQ on my next cycle but thinking it might be good to do a small test to see how I tolerate first since I’ve never used it.
Is that dumb? That’s why flesh out ideas here where people can tell us we are being dumb

Not dumb to try instead of primo. Fairly redundant and potentially E2 destroying to use together.

 

[cap’nboldenone]

No reduction in ai yet. In fact a couple days I had to take 25mg aromasin instead of the 12.5mg I've been on since bumping up my test.
I don't get spicy nips like other guys say they do, I get an itchy chest, right at my sternum.
Week 1 was 300 test / 350 eq, week 2 was 300/500, week 3 was 300/600 and I'm in the middle of week 4 at 300/600. My plan is to stick with the 300/600 though week 16 but maybe add in NPP at week 8 or 10 or 12 depending on how I'm feeling.

It’s pretty rare from what I’ve seen, but it sounds like you might be one of the people that doesn’t get the ai effect from EQ, but the only way to know for sure is to get bloodwork. How long does it typically take for primo to start controlling your e2?

 

[dinfar1337]

It’s pretty rare from what I’ve seen, but it sounds like you might be one of the people that doesn’t get the ai effect from EQ, but the only way to know for sure is to get bloodwork. How long does it typically take for primo to start controlling your e2?

defiently.

just saw his cycle,

he should have the blood levels to suppress 300mg testosterones ai effects.

 

[dinfar1337]

plan is to stick with the 300/600 though week 16 but maybe add in NPP at week 8 or 10 or 12 depending on how I'm feeling

npp acts on progesterone receptors which makes your estradiol receptors more sensitive. so even if you have the same e2 level from adding npp estrogen effects can become even worse