Deadpool's Cycle Log

Week 5, 200mcg clen, 80mcg t3, 3mg ketotifen​

  • Sun 09/28/2025 – 82.60 kg (182.1 lb)
  • Wed 10/01/2025 - 81.70 kg (180.1 lb
Total weight loss in 7 days: 1.70 kg (3.75 lb)

Notes: This has been the first week where I felt the strength plateau, even with tren in the mix, I know I'm not going catabolic. I think it’s mainly lack of enough recovery, I shaved off a few sets here and there.

RHR: Clen upped again, cuz I honestly had extra, RHR had dropped to 73.

I guess I had more bf to lose than expected. Typical overestimation when you try to assess yourself.

Made me acknowledge that a bulking and bulking for a good amount of time is truly the only way to gain alot of muscle and I can’t wait, if anyone was a in a perfect position to main-gain (gaining on maintenance), it would’ve been me. Or maybe some respond stronger than me.
 
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Week 5, 200mcg clen, 80mcg t3, 3mg ketotifen​

  • Sun 09/28/2025 – 82.60 kg (182.1 lb)
  • Wed 10/01/2025 - 81.70 kg (180.1 lb
Total weight loss in 7 days: 1.70 kg (3.75 lb)

Notes: This has been the first week where I felt the strength plateau, even with tren in the mix, I know I'm not going catabolic. I think it’s mainly lack of enough recovery, I shaved off a few sets here and there.

RHR: Clen upped again, cuz I honestly had extra, RHR had dropped to 73.

I guess I had more bf to lose than expected. Typical overestimation when you try to assess yourself.

Made me acknowledge that a bulking and bulking for a good amount of time is truly the only way to gain alot of muscle and I can’t wait, if anyone was a in a perfect position to main-gain (gaining on maintenance), it would’ve been me. Or maybe some respond stronger than me.
Man this stack of fat burners is legitimately insane. Adding clen because there is more in the bag is not an example of an intelligent protocol. For all the fixation and overthinking about “optimization” in your other threads this is really a strange rationale
 
Man this stack of fat burners is legitimately insane. Adding clen because there is more in the bag is not an example of an intelligent protocol. For all the fixation and overthinking about “optimization” in your other threads this is really a strange rationale
I rly do appreciate the concern. I guess I got carried away with some experimentations.

I understand clen at high doses carries risks beyond just heart rate. As part of like a “controlled trial” on myself, I increased to 200 mcg clen to evaluate whether it would give any further benefit before finalizing my prep protocol in the future.

So far:

RHR, BP, cardiac rhythm, electrolytes, sleep quality, and training performance have been good and monitoring to catch any adverse effects early.

Outcome so far:

Over the past week my weight dropped stayed consistent, even tho my tdee has been decreasing Strength has plateaued a bit, which I attribute more to recovery and glycogen depletion than catabolism.
  • Week 1: –3.5 kg (–7.7 lb)
  • Week 2: –4.3 kg (–9.5 lb)
  • Week 3: –1.5 kg (–3.3 lb)
  • Week 4: –2.4 kg (–5.3 lb)
  • Week 5: –1.7 kg (–3.75 lb)
Reflection:

This has reinforced for me that high stimulant stacks give diminishing returns; I’m not planning to hold 200 mcg long-term, this was simply an experiment to see whether a bump from 160 mcg changed anything meaningful. Clearly the extra 40mcg just causes more strain and minimal additional fat burning, I also wanted to see if I had gotten desensitized even with keto, I am very skeptical with indian pharma.

This is pretty aggressive and I’d definitely say reckless to a degree, trying to mitigate any issues by keeping the cut short. I got about 2.5 weeks left.

I also plan to taper t3 slowly to let my thyroid catch up and then introduce some higher doses t4 to bridge while my t3 gets back up and running
 
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I guess I got carried away with some experimentations.

I understand clen at high doses carries risks beyond just heart rate. As part of like a “controlled trial” on myself, I increased to 200 mcg clen to evaluate whether it would give any further benefit before finalizing my prep protocol in the future.

So far:

RHR, BP, cardiac rhythm, electrolytes, sleep quality, and training performance have been good and monitoring to catch any adverse effects early.

Outcome so far:

Over the past week my weight dropped stayed consistent, even tho my tdee has been decreasing Strength has plateaued a bit, which I attribute more to recovery and glycogen depletion than catabolism.
  • Week 1: –3.5 kg (–7.7 lb)
  • Week 2: –4.3 kg (–9.5 lb)
  • Week 3: –1.5 kg (–3.3 lb)
  • Week 4: –2.4 kg (–5.3 lb)
  • Week 5: –1.7 kg (–3.75 lb)
Reflection:

This has reinforced for me that high stimulant stacks give diminishing returns; I’m not planning to hold 200 mcg long-term, this was simply an experiment to see whether a bump from 160 mcg changed anything meaningful.

This is pretty aggressive and I’d definitely say reckless to a degree, trying to mitigate any issues by keeping the cut short. I got about 2.5 weeks left.

I also plan to taper t3 slowly to let my thyroid catch up and then introduce some higher doses t4 to bridge while my t3 gets back up and running
As a young dumbass, I have the shit mindset of trying to best the fastest route. One of my biggest flaws tbh. As long as the numbers are supportive I tend to try and squeeze every little ounce I can.

However I understand that not everything is a number’s game, so this will probably be the last time I use this clen dose. Thankfully I didn’t get any arrhythmias, monitored that closely.

I did a full check up at the week 1, week 4, and a third one at week 7 just before I end it.
 
I rly do appreciate the concern. I guess I got carried away with some experimentations.

I understand clen at high doses carries risks beyond just heart rate. As part of like a “controlled trial” on myself, I increased to 200 mcg clen to evaluate whether it would give any further benefit before finalizing my prep protocol in the future.

So far:

RHR, BP, cardiac rhythm, electrolytes, sleep quality, and training performance have been good and monitoring to catch any adverse effects early.

Outcome so far:

Over the past week my weight dropped stayed consistent, even tho my tdee has been decreasing Strength has plateaued a bit, which I attribute more to recovery and glycogen depletion than catabolism.
  • Week 1: –3.5 kg (–7.7 lb)
  • Week 2: –4.3 kg (–9.5 lb)
  • Week 3: –1.5 kg (–3.3 lb)
  • Week 4: –2.4 kg (–5.3 lb)
  • Week 5: –1.7 kg (–3.75 lb)
Reflection:

This has reinforced for me that high stimulant stacks give diminishing returns; I’m not planning to hold 200 mcg long-term, this was simply an experiment to see whether a bump from 160 mcg changed anything meaningful. Clearly the extra 40mcg just causes more strain and minimal additional fat burning, I also wanted to see if I had gotten desensitized even with keto, I am very skeptical with indian pharma.

This is pretty aggressive and I’d definitely say reckless to a degree, trying to mitigate any issues by keeping the cut short. I got about 2.5 weeks left.

I also plan to taper t3 slowly to let my thyroid catch up and then introduce some higher doses t4 to bridge while my t3 gets back up and running
It’s way overkill man. You should be able to get shredded glutes on 80, t3 is variable sure but 80mcg is super high even compared to competitors who use it more liberally. What high dose of t4 do you think is rationale?

Again Im not trying to nit pick but it seems like you’re playing with a lot of drugs but don’t seem to know how to do what people generally consider is the already established best practice. Basic cutting phases are simple, dont really require experimentation.

I can’t see how you’re not going to burn muscle at this pace. Generally fast cuts are going to be the worse for catabolism and people will only add cardio/PEDS as totally required in order to save muscle. Considering that you basically chose what is potentially the most damaging timeline then slammed the physique with drugs that are considered highly catabolic just seems like a bad recipe in general. A lot of beginner guys do this with cardio. I’ve done it, I have to keep clients from doing it because people “want to do the work” but sometimes more isn’t better— whether it is excessive cardio or fat burners.


The sooner you get over the faster is better mindset for a deficit, the better. In terms of health, effort, and outcomes for physique.
 
Sorry if this is all unwarranted. It just seems like you’re putting in a lot of effort, so you should get something out of it, but the method you chose might be counterproductive to all the effort you put in
 
No need to apologize, I really appreciate and understand you're concern.

I’m using T4 as a bridge (not for fat burning) after coming off T3 to prevent a thyroid crash. While on T3 I kept my T4 at 50 mcg, but once I stop T3 my thyroid will be suppressed and my TDEE will dip below baseline. So if my maintenance is 3,400 kcal, without exogenous T3 my true maintenance will drop. The T4 is meant to provide a reservoir to smooth that transition

I understand 160 mcg clen + 80 mcg T3 are very aggressive. My rationale was that, based on the literature, this combo could increase my TDEE by roughly 500–700 kcal/day minimum and clen has direct lipolytic action through β2 pathways. I’ve tried to blunt catabolism with a strong anabolic base (tren/test/mast) and I’m aware some muscle loss may still occur, but I’m confident I can regain any small loss fairly quickly when I transition into a bulk.

That said, I’d rather avoid unnecessary catabolism in the first place, which is why I don’t plan to push doses this high again or even use these compounds again, especially if I bulk correctly. I also will do a long cruise after the bulk so going aggressive isn't even on the table.

I also kind of overestimated my bf and I'd think that this would have gone way longer without them. It isn't an excuse but one outcome I noticed. I'm just rly hyped to start my first bulk, I literally can't wait.
 
Sorry if this is all unwarranted. It just seems like you’re putting in a lot of effort, so you should get something out of it, but the method you chose might be counterproductive to all the effort you put in
Honestly, I think having so much free time and the outright boredom everyday made me hyper-fixate on fat loss and push harder than I really needed to. Since training and cutting were the only things I was focused on every day, it was easy to fall into that spiral. Thankfully I didn’t take it further with something extreme like DNP, but it’s definitely made me realize I need to balance things better.

Again, I really appreciate your input and the straight feedback, this has been a big learning experience for me. I can see now that more isn’t always better, and while I’m glad I pushed through this cut, I’ve learned my lesson. Going forward I’ll be approaching things more conservatively and focusing on the long game. Thanks again for helping me see it with clearer eyes.
 

Week 6, 160mcg clen, 80mcg t3, 3mg ketotifen​

  • Sun 10/05/2025 – 80.60 kg (177.7 lb)
  • Wed 10/08/2025 - 81.10 kg (178.7 lb)
I swear every time I say “I’m gonna do this or hit that” assuming smth is gonna happen as planned, it never happens. In life/exams/study and now even in my scale, lol.

I was like finally breaking the 80kg mark, bro I gain weight for the first time. Normal fluctuations tho, didn’t break my diet.

Only change in diet/routine was switching my 4ius split of hgh from 2ius am/2ius pre bed to now 4ius am fasted. Based on research.

Notes: I’ll recheck weight tomorrow. Workouts are great so far. Mood getting better actually.

RHR: Clen back to 180mcg, clear diminishing returns, RHR had dropped to 73 last week and stayed there.
 
Updates:
- Next Monday I check bloods again and do a full check up again.

- Also going to pull blood to check latest results on my experiment to see I react to Test:Mast ratios to see how mast is effecting my serum E2. Need to further study it.

- Also going to be pulling back on Tudca/Sam-e doses around the end of the cut, and keep nac same as 1g to test how 600mg daily Subq Glutathione affects my liver enzymes. Hopefully we can eliminate some more cycle support lile sam-e/tudca, rly interested to see the results.
 
way too many drugs dude if you just dial in nutrition , recovery , and keep optimal hormones you don’t need to take all these drugs this is abuse
 
you only get so many heart beats , why waste them , it’s a marathon not a sprint , great progress for sure but the use of drugs so casually is crazy ! i went through a phase like this , but for a couple months and never again ! its not sustainable.
 
Photos show great progress good job.
I appreciate the comment, current progress mid-cut looks lack luster, I'm very lightweight, like I lost too much muscle. But wit high test/tren in the mix, my theory is that the t3 is making me tooo flat, as it's too common to happen.

I know for fact as soon as I reverse diet. I'll gain a minimum of 7-12lbs from pure glycogen stores and I bet some muscle mass too. The real progress pics will be after I go back to maintenance you can't rly gauge it now.

The fact that during this cut I dropped a sheer 35lbs, and I have retained most strength and progressed in 1 lift, I probably lost a lb or two of muscle but nothing that can't be gained quick after I reverse diet, leaves me very optimistic.
 
you only get so many heart beats , why waste them , it’s a marathon not a sprint , great progress for sure but the use of drugs so casually is crazy ! i went through a phase like this , but for a couple months and never again ! its not sustainable.
Totally fair point, and I agree, this level of use definitely isn’t something I plan to sustain.

This was just a short, aggressive 8-week cut to reach a goal quickly while keeping muscle to then do a longer bulk. I’m fully aware it’s not a long-term approach. I have been very precise and health conscious on recovery and health markers, with 3 full body check ups during the 8 weeks and even more to come after I get out of the cut.

I appreciate the concern though — it’s always good to be reminded that this stuff needs to be treated with respect and structure.
 
I appreciate the comment, current progress mid-cut looks lack luster, I'm very lightweight, like I lost too much muscle. But wit high test/tren in the mix, my theory is that the t3 is making me tooo flat, as it's too common to happen.

I know for fact as soon as I reverse diet. I'll gain a minimum of 7-12lbs from pure glycogen stores and I bet some muscle mass too. The real progress pics will be after I go back to maintenance you can't rly gauge it now.

The fact that during this cut I dropped a sheer 35lbs, and I have retained most strength and progressed in 1 lift, I probably lost a lb or two of muscle but nothing that can't be gained quick after I reverse diet, leaves me very optimistic.
So I was also 110kg. Did keto, water fasting etc got me down to 75kg. Took about a year.
Then went back on high carb training went back to 83kg.
Then switched to keto got back to 75.
Then went full carnivore cut all the way down to 65kg and then started working on adding more muscle.
Packed on 10kg and now started my first course in 20 years. Hoping to pack on a other 5kg or so before I cut again. This will take me into next year probably
 
So I was also 110kg. Did keto, water fasting etc got me down to 75kg. Took about a year.
Then went back on high carb training went back to 83kg.
Then switched to keto got back to 75.
Then went full carnivore cut all the way down to 65kg and then started working on adding more muscle.
Packed on 10kg and now started my first course in 20 years. Hoping to pack on a other 5kg or so before I cut again. This will take me into next year probably
First cycle will change you’re life, good luck.
Nothing hits like a first cycle, on only 300mg per week of test, everyone was complementing me even when I was wearing winter clothing.
 
First cycle will change you’re life, good luck.
Nothing hits like a first cycle, on only 300mg per week of test, everyone was complementing me even when I was wearing winter clothing.
I am hitting 500mg TEST E + Winstrol for 10 weeks..
I was going to do just Winstrol and then I decided to add TEST E for some size afterwards and off we went.
First injection yesterday evening went smooth as butter but walking today was not fun haha. Gym tomorrow is going to hurt a little I think :)
 
I am hitting 500mg TEST E + Winstrol for 10 weeks..
I was going to do just Winstrol and then I decided to add TEST E for some size afterwards and off we went.
First injection yesterday evening went smooth as butter but walking today was not fun haha. Gym tomorrow is going to hurt a little I think :)
First injection will always be remembered, many here like delt/quads. Personally if u can try glutes, and it work for you. Best decision imo.
 
First injection will always be remembered, many here like delt/quads. Personally if u can try glutes, and it work for you. Best decision imo.
I went straight for the buttocks but probably in a funny spot I reckon.
How much did you gain on that first 300mg cycle?
 

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