Qingdao Sigma Chemical Co., Ltd (International, US, EU, Canada and Australia domestic

[ineffectual]

I’m not sure why we just won’t answer them, I went on a search and ended up send the money to “tracyfromqscc” and got scammed. Why not just either post it on the first thread or just tell people when they ask

tracyfromqsc

 

[pheno609]

This is from their tg channel, join it to confirm. Always verify everything from their thread

 

[alie]

This is from their tg channel, join it to confirm. Always verify everything from their thread

Thank you for the info, I just didn’t really understand telegram
The positive in this is that thankfully I can afford and I hope I prevent someone else from being scammed that can’t

 

[pheno609]

Yea it’s my fault. I’ve never used telegram before and when I went to search for the user name, her pic popped up and the little blue check I figured it was legit. I feel stupid

It happens more often than you think. I dont know how the scammers do it, but they some how get their profiles to show up first on the list even though their tag is different from the exact tag you searched for. Happens alot with HYB, the wrong profile appears first on the list and they scam alot of people. Always double check the tag

 

[thebiggestmofo]

Panda told me he would have started making his own raws... (and still never did it) Tracy told me people dont wanna risk their freedom so it seems there will be just stupid fuckin peptides and hgh...

No one knows about raws being produced again.. i wish there was another QSC from another nation

 

[trytryagain]

Because the amount of powder of GH there is too little. So they put fillers to bump up volume. Same thing has been discussed in the past for GLPs. 4mg or 12mg is very little you probably couldn't see it with the naked eye.

The bulk of the powder (“cake” or “puck”) isn’t “filler”. If done right the bulk of the cake is a combination of substances used to do one or more of the following: facilitate the freeze drying of the API/drug; stabilize the API/drug from degradation; enhance solubility in injection solution; encourage less reaction during/after injection; provide a visual indicator of low water content/proper freeze drying; etc.

And basically the vast majority of the cake you see there is void (from the freeze drying out removing all the ice that was there and being replaced with vacuum and continuing to be vacuum if properly sealed). Beyond that the vast majority of the solid matrix/mass occupying the same region as the void is the excipients above, very little is the API drug itself.

Same applies to weight…can’t compare the weight. Only way to know is via testing.

Perhaps the only useful visual comparisons of amounts one might be able to do is when comparing vials from the same batch (same solution into the vials, same lyophilizer run) and even then, it’s not very reliable. If you known they are from the same run and the substances inside are intact cakes (not fucked up by handling) that lyophilized correctly (there’s a pdf out there showing visually all the different ways it can fail) and at that point the cake sizes are different…then you know the automated filler(s) were not adjusted properly and you have significant variations of API/drug. Mostly that’s only useful for the producers/sellers to know since everything can be shuffled around before a kit is put together.

Anyway, generally not “fillers”.

 

[TheMoto]

The bulk of the powder (“cake” or “puck”) isn’t “filler”. If done right the bulk of the cake is a combination of substances used to do one or more of the following: facilitate the freeze drying of the API/drug; stabilize the API/drug from degradation; enhance solubility in injection solution; encourage less reaction during/after injection; provide a visual indicator of low water content/proper freeze drying; etc.

And basically the vast majority of the cake you see there is void (from the freeze drying out removing all the ice that was there and being replaced with vacuum and continuing to be vacuum if properly sealed). Beyond that the vast majority of the solid matrix/mass occupying the same region as the void is the excipients above, very little is the API drug itself.

Same applies to weight…can’t compare the weight. Only way to know is via testing.

Perhaps the only useful visual comparisons of amounts one might be able to do is when comparing vials from the same batch (same solution into the vials, same lyophilizer run) and even then, it’s not very reliable. If you known they are from the same run and the substances inside are intact cakes (not fucked to by handling) that lyophilized correctly (there’s a pdf out there showing visually all the different ways it can fail) and at that point the cake sizes are different…then you know the automated filler(s) were not adjusted properly and you have significant variations of API/drug. Mostly that’s only useful for the producers/sellers to know since everything can be shuffled around before a kit is put together.

Anyway, generally not “fillers”.

thanks

 

[nullandvoid]

Yea I'm kind of wondering how much of that was ChatGPT. I know we were all burning with curiosity, so I'm glad someone bridged the gap between ignorance and forgetting it five minutes from now.

 

[trytryagain]

thanks

I’ll take the thanks.

But it wasn’t ChatGPT. I’m just the dumb guy at the keyboard in the xkcd comic who can’t stop himself from making the correction…I sat here for 10 minutes digging out my memories from looking this all up last winter and typing that in. I’ll state that it’s likely about 80-95% correct but I haven’t rechecked. Lol.

 

[trytryagain]

The pdf discussing assessment of lyophilized products visually - what matters and what doesn’t. For those who are curious. Was still on my phone.

TTA

 

[thebiggestmofo]

Panda told me he would have started making his own raws... (and still never did it) Tracy told me people dont wanna risk their freedom so it seems there will be just stupid fuckin peptides and hgh...

No one knows about raws being produced again.. i wish there was another QSC from another nation

Does anyone know something about it?

 

[abaddon616]

Just throwing this out there it's never and I mean NEVER the one with double letters in the name prime example is the additional "c" at the end of this scam account. Check the spelling always folks it'll save you a lot of heartache.

 

[Swedishsteel]

Smart of transy to start group buys.

As people are going to other groups for bulk orders and getting 200 kits. huge loss for him to skip out on

I wonder if SS31 will have group buys as well or just the most common aka gh, reta. His standard SS price is almost 100 usd higher then other vendors

 

[RandallFlagg]

Smart of transy to start group buys.

As people are going to other groups for bulk orders and getting 200 kits. huge loss for him to skip out on

I wonder if SS31 will have group buys as well or just the most common aka gh, reta. His standard SS price is almost 100 usd higher then other vendors

It's the annual "Retatrutide flash and dash sale."

I might be getting triggered flashbacks from last year. LMFAO.

 

[nullandvoid]

Is it just me, or are the pucks looking higher quality? Got some T30 and some IGF-LR3, and they all look very sharply/well formed with a clean line, no breakage, no residue on the vial sides, etc. It was kind of hit or miss before, even though it all worked the same regardless.

 

[Ghoul]

Is it just me, or are the pucks looking higher quality? Got some T30 and some IGF-LR3, and they all look very sharply/well formed with a clean line, no breakage, no residue on the vial sides, etc. It was kind of hit or miss before, even though it all worked the same regardless.

From the pics I’ve seen I’d have to agree. This might be Tracy’s “chemist” who he’s mentioned a few times before the collapse, making tweaks to formulations.

Lyophilization and formulation quality is an under appreciated quality aspect of UGL peptides, mainly because it’s not something that can be assigned a number, like purity.

Vendors generally don’t tell us anything.

If it is his guy (or just a high quality manufacturer), it’s a good selling point and if Tracy elaborates on some details about the quality control steps being taken it would separate his products from competitors (and some transparency into what we’re injecting would be a nice change vs the usual silence on this).

He’s one of the few peptide / rHGH vendors who seems to have direct control of the finished product, and not just reselling.