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First cycle. Please critique

Would you start the Clen then the T3 later or start both at the same time. It's harder to isolate sides with multiple chemicals going in. We plan to start at very low doses. I also had my source make some very low dose aromasin to help with her water retention.
 
Beergut75 said:
Would you start the Clen then the T3 later or start both at the same time. It's harder to isolate sides with multiple chemicals going in. We plan to start at very low doses. I also had my source make some very low dose aromasin to help with her water retention.
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I would go just clen for the first week and then add in t3. That way you can dial in your tolerance. Unless you use ketotifen you are going to have a two week break where you are just running t3. Ketotifen keeps your beta 2s fresh but make you sleepy
 
1forthegeeks said:
I have never tried Clen, but if it's similar to ephedrine no thank you!

I dunno if I will ever need to seriously cut like that.

Maybe one day...
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fuck clen, fuck stims in general. and definitely fuck t3 if you want your thyroid to stay normal.

these type of drugs always cause rebounds and clen and ephedrine both saute your dopamine receptors nicely...

totally worth it to cut naturally. some AAS and a good diet will get you shredded without fucking up your brain, heart, and ability to naturally lose fat. that's my opinion.
 
weekend said:
fuck clen, fuck stims in general. and definitely fuck t3 if you want your thyroid to stay normal.

these type of drugs always cause rebounds and clen and ephedrine both saute your dopamine receptors nicely...

totally worth it to cut naturally. some AAS and a good diet will get you shredded without fucking up your brain, heart, and ability to naturally lose fat. that's my opinion.
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Weekend,

I'm just curious but have you ever tried clen and what was your experience if you have?
 
So my weight seems to be stuck around 208. Not quite what I wanted but my strength abd endurance is still climbing. I wonder how much I was affected by using underdosed gear for about the first seven weeks of my cycle.
 
Beergut75 said:
Since you had some bunk stuff will you cycle longer or do you just write this one off at this point?
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It wasn't completely bunk, just underdosed. I'll probably just finish the bottle I have now and be done. I know what I have now is g2g so next cycle should be better. I figure 12 weeks is a long enough first cycle even with the underdosed gear
 
Labs look good. I was happy to see the test number and the estrogen as well. I should be getting labs in another week or so.
 
For sure. I posted my pre cycle labs already my test was 238 so it will be a good test of our source. Honestly though I can't ask anymore of a source I have had an awesome experience. I have one order that still isn't here and is taking WAY longer than it should but I have the tracking number and I can see that the mix up is not the source's fault. I ordered another shipment after that and it has already arrived with free goodies and some aromasin dosed low specifically for my girl. She is retaining water.
 
Beergut75 said:
For sure. I posted my pre cycle labs already my test was 238 so it will be a good test of our source. Honestly though I can't ask anymore of a source I have had an awesome experience. I have one order that still isn't here and is taking WAY longer than it should but I have the tracking number and I can see that the mix up is not the source's fault. I ordered another shipment after that and it has already arrived with free goodies and some aromasin dosed low specifically for my girl. She is retaining water.
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Thats right I remember your bloodwork now. Be careful with your wife and what you give her for bloating they are really different then us
 
That's why the special low dose. It's clear that the anavar or dhea? is causing water retention and she is retaining fluid. She had gained 8-10 lbs since starting cycle and she is trying to cut.
 
Honestly she just looks puffy. We seem to have gotten a handle on the weight gain so now we just have to lose the water and hit the cardio hard with a calorie deficiency. I'm thinking of doing a log for her? I'm not as good of a logger as you guys though.
 
Beergut75 said:
Honestly she just looks puffy. We seem to have gotten a handle on the weight gain so now we just have to lose the water and hit the cardio hard with a calorie deficiency. I'm thinking of doing a log for her? I'm not as good of a logger as you guys though.
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I would post up about it and see what comes up. Maybe PM Gunrunner
 
So as I near the end of my first cycle I now wonder how pct is going to be. Tge weight gain wasn't quite what I expected but between the underdosed gear and the cruise I'm glad I got what I did. My strength gains are where I'm pleased and wonder what I'll keep. I have one week left.

Fir my next cycle which will be a while, I'm planning on running NPP anf Prop. Does anyone have any suggestions to add that I can try and at least read up on?
Any suggestions for diet whike I pct and after?
 
TaoPhD said:
So as I near the end of my first cycle I now wonder how pct is going to be. Tge weight gain wasn't quite what I expected but between the underdosed gear and the cruise I'm glad I got what I did. My strength gains are where I'm pleased and wonder what I'll keep. I have one week left.

Fir my next cycle which will be a while, I'm planning on running NPP anf Prop. Does anyone have any suggestions to add that I can try and at least read up on?
Any suggestions for diet whike I pct and after?
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Yo Tao, Late on this thread, but let me know how you like the new NPP and Prop cycle. As far as PCT goes. My staple usually is:
CLOMID- 100/75/50/50
NOLVA - 20/20/10/10
HCG - depending on the cycle
LETRO - for sudden gyno/estro increase.
 
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