Are the steps outlined specific to homebrews? Maybe my risk tolerance is high after a year of taking UGL gear raw with no adverse events but the first spike seems unnecessary.
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Ghoul
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No adverse events? I doubt you'd sense the incremental progress of, for instance, joint damage from reactive arthritis, or your organs being slowly degraded by microembolisms from injecting a steady supply of particulate contamination.
You mean "I haven't lost an ass cheek so everything's fine".
What do you think happens to the glass, rubber, and metal sub-visible particles you're injecting? They politely make their way to your digestive system for excretion? Or perhaps we evolved to develop "glass dissolving enzymes" that break those shards down and render them harmless?
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PlanetFatness
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AlexDavis43
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It's not correct, vendor make blend brewing things together, that's a lot different than brewing separately and than mixing it together
It's not that much different.
Yes. No big difference from mixing them in the same syringe.
To be clear, I'm not discounting the risk entirely and interested in harm reduction. Just genuinely curious what the reasoning is for using two vial spikes as described by @PayPig99 if the oil makes it through a syringe filter at .22um from the first vial without issue. Is that unlikely? Totally on board with using a filtered spike on the vial you intend to administer from. I'm clumsy as fuck so I'd like to stick with 10ml vials and the mini spikes add up quickly...
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Ghoul
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The filtered vial spike serves two functions. One is the deal with the particulates from the new vial (or even existing vial if reused), second is to prevent the development of rubber coring particles from repeatedly penetrating the rubber stopper with the needle (this has the added benefit of not requiring a separate drawing needle, or keeping the needle sharp, if using one for both).
However, I recently came across a source of inexpensive vials that are certified particulate free by USP standards.
With these, it would be better to use a spike without a liquid filter.
ALK-10ml-20mm Clear Sealed Sterile Glass Vial, Silver, Qty 1 | Med Lab Supply
In order to receive vials in sealed shrink wrap boxes, please order in multiples of 25
Here's another good source for the same brand by the caseThe filtered vial spike serves two functions. One is the deal with the particulates from the new vial (or even existing vial if reused), second is to prevent the development of rubber coring particles from repeatedly penetrating the rubber stopper with the needle (this has the added benefit of not requiring a separate drawing needle, or keeping the needle sharp, if using one for both).
However, I recently came across a source of inexpensive vials that are certified particulate free by USP standards.
With these, it would be better to use a spike without a liquid filter.
ALK-10ml-20mm Clear Sealed Sterile Glass Vial, Silver, Qty 1 | Med Lab Supply
In order to receive vials in sealed shrink wrap boxes, please order in multiples of 25www.medical-and-lab-supplies.com
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Not to belabor the point but I seem to be missing something. If I have no issues pushing oil from the source vial through the syringe filter, am I good to skip the first spike?The filtered vial spike serves two functions. One is the deal with the particulates from the new vial (or even existing vial if reused), second is to prevent the development of rubber coring particles from repeatedly penetrating the rubber stopper with the needle (this has the added benefit of not requiring a separate drawing needle, or keeping the needle sharp, if using one for both).
However, I recently came across a source of inexpensive vials that are certified particulate free by USP standards.
With these, it would be better to use a spike without a liquid filter.
ALK-10ml-20mm Clear Sealed Sterile Glass Vial, Silver, Qty 1 | Med Lab Supply
In order to receive vials in sealed shrink wrap boxes, please order in multiples of 25
There is no reason, I missed that.
Of course..the first spike in that step has no reason to exist
They are certified particulate free before using it, after I doubt it will be particulate free as coring can happen. So the liquid filter should still be used isn't it? Or am I missing something?The filtered vial spike serves two functions. One is the deal with the particulates from the new vial (or even existing vial if reused), second is to prevent the development of rubber coring particles from repeatedly penetrating the rubber stopper with the needle (this has the added benefit of not requiring a separate drawing needle, or keeping the needle sharp, if using one for both).
However, I recently came across a source of inexpensive vials that are certified particulate free by USP standards.
With these, it would be better to use a spike without a liquid filter.
ALK-10ml-20mm Clear Sealed Sterile Glass Vial, Silver, Qty 1 | Med Lab Supply
In order to receive vials in sealed shrink wrap boxes, please order in multiples of 25
Thanks...was starting to feel a little slow lol. For clarity, is the purpose of the syringe filter to ensure sterility?
Yeah I'd want to filter directly before administration regardless. Seems kind of pointless to go through all this and still have non-zero risk. And we're not exactly in the best regulatory climate atm.
