1st Cycle Advice to cut with some gains??

[Nighthawk8118]

I'm 6'3" 229lbs 17%BF I'm sick of fighting with my terrible metabolism and having a gut... I have decided to do my first cycle. I want to lose as much fat as I can and gain a little muscle in the process. Clenbuterol would probably cause me jitters as a big cup of coffee does that to me. I've been looking at test cypionate as a base for 10 weeks and something else to stack with it.. Maybe DECA durabolin? What's the best TEST to use for what I'm trying to do.... What do you knowledgeable fellas out there have for me? I appreciate it big time! Thanks.

 

[T_verde77]

Don't do it. Get down to atleast 15%

 

[intel]

Still drop down a little bit more. And after that do just test e cycle. I did a just test e cycle and it was absolutely fucking amazing. Dropped a lot of body fat and gained a lot of size and strength.

 

[bhog]

I'd run the standard first cycle of test and see how your body handles it.
You won't die if you're not a lower bf when you start.

 

[Nighthawk8118]

I'm going to eat right and excercise for another month and drop 2% ...then start the TEST cycle. Which TEST should I use? Intel how much weight did u drop how fast on test e?

 

[Nighthawk8118]

Bhog- what test do u like for this the most?

 

[bhog]

Bhog- what test do u like for this the most?

E or C man. Your choice.

 

[Nighthawk8118]

Good deal. My buddy has a 10 ml vile of test C ready for me. I'm gonna start in 2 weeks after dropping 5 lbs fat from pushups pullups situps good diett. THEN 400 mg per week for 10 or 12 weeks. That sound good?? Only Clomid for a PCT ?

 

[bhog]

Do a couple searches on here for first time cycles. All the info needed is here for ya man you just gotta do some research.
You're also goin to want to do some math on your gear brother so you have enough. It's also recommend that you have your ai's and pct on hand before you start your cycle.
Research brother, seriously it's very important.

 

[Nighthawk8118]

I know this. I've been researching for 5 days few hours a day at least. I've seen 400 - 500 mg a week for 10-12 weeks all over the place. Will make sure I gave entire cycle and PC on hand

 

[Nighthawk8118]

4 more hrs researching today finally helped me button up my first cycle head to toe..
Test cyp 500mg/week weeks 1-12
Aromasin 10mg EOD weeks 1-12 and 25 mg ED weeks 13+14
Nolvadex 20mg/day weeks 15-19
Clomid 50mg/day weeks 15,16,17

 

[RodgerThat]

4 more hrs researching today finally helped me button up my first cycle head to toe..
Test cyp 500mg/week weeks 1-12
Aromasin 10mg EOD weeks 1-12 and 25 mg ED weeks 13+14
Nolvadex 20mg/day weeks 15-19
Clomid 50mg/day weeks 15,16,17

Everything looks alright besides your aromisin you should not be upping the dose while your ester clears it will just bottom out your e2 if anything you taper down the dose after the first week not taper up. I'd extend clomid 1 more week at 25mg Ed but not crucial. Make sure your AI and pct are pharmacy grade and you get bloods done before cycle for a baseline

 

[Flaming Dragon]

I don't know why people telling OP it's ok to start a cycle when clearly his not ready! Thinking running Test as a weight lose, when dieting and exercise are the better choice. IMO, is foolish! Remember, OP only did 5 days and couple of hours worth of "research" to gain the knowledge he needed to run a cycle.

BTW, OP--what's your age?

 

[mkulltra58]

Good deal. My buddy has a 10 ml vile of test C ready for me. I'm gonna start in 2 weeks after dropping 5 lbs fat from pushups pullups situps good diett. THEN 400 mg per week for 10 or 12 weeks. That sound good?? Only Clomid for a PCT ?

You mention doing push-ups, pull-ups, and sit-ups as your way to lose five pounds. This suggests to me that you possibly don't know enough about proper training for bodybuilding. How long have you been lifting seriously? What does your routine look like? What does your diet look like? What are your macros? Steroids are not a magic pill that get you in shape. If you are not able to train properly naturally, you are only going to mess yourself up with steroids.

 

[Flaming Dragon]

You mention doing push-ups, pull-ups, and sit-ups as your way to lose five pounds. This suggests to me that you possibly don't know enough about proper training for bodybuilding. How long have you been lifting seriously? What does your routine look like? What does your diet look like? What are your macros? Steroids are not a magic pill that get you in shape. If you are not able to train properly naturally, you are only going to mess yourself up with steroids.

That's my point.. Many people think steroids IS the magic pill.. knowing there's no such thing! It takes hard work and time to lose weight and gain muscle.. There's no way around it.. If you lack the discipline of eating right and training hard.. All the "gains" you got during AAS would be gone once you're off AAS!

 

[Nighthawk8118]

You guys are too funny. I was an athlete all my life including collegiate. I used to run a 5:15 mile. Lifted routinely for the years followinf zchool until mh curent age at 30 FLAME. I know all there is to know ( more than you) about diet and exercise. Never needed a cycle till now ( unlike u) BC I DID work so hard smartass. And yes test is awesome for weight loss. You keep muscle and even put a little on while working off the fat. You fuckin know it alls need to watch your mouths.

 

[Nighthawk8118]

All the jargon you both just vomitted was all assumptions. Take your know it all negativity and ego to a self esteem clinic

 

[RodgerThat]

I don't know why people telling OP it's ok to start a cycle when clearly his not ready! Thinking running Test as a weight lose, when dieting and exercise are the better choice. IMO, is foolish! Remember, OP only did 5 days and couple of hours worth of "research" to gain the knowledge he needed to run a cycle.

BTW, OP--what's your age?

Profile says he is 34, he's 17% BF not 30% or some ridiculous number. 5 days of research isn't a lot you are right but he did figure out a decent and responsible choice.

Now in saying this @Nighthawk8118 if you know so god damn much and more then all of us please tell me why you are here. Any person claiming they know all there is to know is someone that has lots to learn! You think you've figured out the whole training and nutrition world and your 17% BF I say nay nay! I'm not saying your stupid but you need to be humble and take the advice here maybe not all of it but dig through the crap to find the good advice. Just a side note your 5:15 mile doesn't impress me much for being a collegiate athlete at your height and you don't have a terrible metabolism that gives you a gut you have terrible will power that gives you a gut. I was typing defending you but when you pipe up acting like a twat I no longer wish to help.

 

[Nighthawk8118]

Its this simple... Its a steroid forum. I knew very little about juice when I posted the thread .. And as for 17% .. BC I stopped spending as much time in the gym. Is this that difficult for you?

 

[Nighthawk8118]

I appreciate the defense... I was directing more at Flame