1st time -DNP- I welcome advice

[88general88]

good morning gentlemen, So I have decided to pull the trigger, and give dnp a shot. I am a true believer in anything in access being dangerous. I do understand that DNP is one bad bitch, and the first time you disrespect her she has the ability to take your life. With that being said, I think as long as I am aware of what I am getting myself into, and set some ground rules I am not concerned with the danger. So here it is, I am planning on running it for two weeks 200mg Ed. I have vitamin C, vitamin e, ala, potassium, multi vitamin, all the vit Bs and Creatine. I am going into this with the mindset that I have never done this and so if I notice one thing that seems like it could become an issue, then I pull the plug. I will be posting a daily log with my activities, how I feel, and progress. With that being said. Any advice from you guys would be awesome. I feel 100% more confident know you guys are there, I truly believe that there isn’t 1 person here that would want to see me get hurt. My package is in route to be delievered, and plan is to take 200mg tonight when I get it which will be at around 5pm. And will continue to update every night before I lay my head to the pillow. But like I said anything you guys can think of that may help me achieve that much more success I would greatly appreciate. Thank you and look forward to hearing from you guys.
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[88general88]

Yea DNP, this quick fix remedy, diet, or that new drug (remember FenPhen) it’s all the same because NONE have been shown to result in long term weight loss or are capable of reversing the obesity epidemic in this country except a CHANGE in LIFESTYLE

And for that reason a lifestyle change is what should be emphasized to anyone using or considering the use of DNP.

JIM

Hey doc, thanks for heads up, however, There was never any talk of me misusing and or abusing a high dose of DNP. I have been in shape the majority of my life, was a professional athlete until I was 24 years old, I went through a rough patch, prison, shoulder surgery, addiction to pain medication, not in this exact order, but I have managed to overcome each one of them, my diet is spot on. You dont know me and I dont know you but with that being said I feel confident enough to say that I have more self discipline and determination than most people, however, I work in a industry where my overall aesthetic look would earn me a much higher income. So it was never a question about not wanting to put in the hardwork, i get, that because you are a doctor you think that most of us don’t know what hardwork is, but that is not the case with me. It merely came down to 2 things One: to speed up a process that has already been in motion and secondly, for me to conquer the experience using such compound so that down the line of If I happen to come into contact with a client that has an interest in running DNP, that I will be able to give them good, honest advice on how to safely run such compound.
By the way, I do remember phenfen, that’s the shit that cause irreversible damage to millions of stay at home housewives and lazy people with no self control. It was also an extremely catabolic compound. The two cannot even be compared. If I were a betting man I would throw money on the fact that more people have died or suffered irreversible damage from phenfen than I bet have from DNP.

 

[S.B.C]

my main beef with dnp is it makes me like a have a bad cold and i hate feeling like that. low doses don't really effect me hunger or energy wise other than the heavy breathing. i've never gone high enough to get yellow cum or any of the nastiest sides.

 

[Eman]

My only advice to the original poster is to bump the dose up after a week. Don't remain at 200 mg the entire cycle, bump it Up to 400mg after a week. You'll see dramatic weight loss at that dose.

Something to consider is that dosages for different users aren't universal.

A first cycle of 500mg of test is a pretty common dosage that just about everyone will be fine with.

On the other hand, DNP isn't as easy to pin a common dosage down. Some people can't even tolerate 200mg. It's most likely due to how our bodies generate ATP. That's why some people feel okay at 800mg while others wouldn't even be okay at half that dose.

With all that said, I don't like recommending dosages to people. They really have to feel it out for themselves. I also really would like to see 100-200mg doses become more common. This would remove a lot of the taboo from DNP if people were commonly running 200mg cycles... Reports of bad sides would go down, risks would be highly mitigated, great results would still follow.

Just by 2¢

 

[88general88]

Because this is my first run and want to get a feel for how my body responds to it, I not planning on upping the dose. I have made my mind up in that regard. I know some will argue with that decision but it’s my body/life and just like Eman said everyone reacts differently to it. Who knows once this thing starts building itself up inside my soul, I may have to stop. And I am prepared to do that. Over the years I have done some insanely wild things to my body and I am extremely blessed to still be alive. I am not that guy anymore. I enjoy my life and the time I spend with my son, and Since working through my past bullshit I am not interested in gambling anymore with my health than I already have. This is my way of experimenting with it safely. If I finish all 21 days successfully without any serious sides, then down the line in the future if I choose to ever run it again, which I am not saying I will, but it I do end up making g that decision then I know at least what to expect and can make a choice to up my dose then. I guess what I was hoping to hear from people were any helpful tricks, that made there experience better, easier to deal with sides. Like when homeboy said he took his dose in the morning because he felt like he would sleep better that way. That’s the kind of things I was more or less looking to hear. At the same time if there are things like the pins and needles that I need to watch out for. That’s valuable info.

 

[88general88]

my main beef with dnp is it makes me like a have a bad cold and i hate feeling like that. low doses don't really effect me hunger or energy wise other than the heavy breathing. i've never gone high enough to get yellow cum or any of the nastiest sides.

Did you do anything to combat the flu like symptoms or do you just push through them, knowing that it was just temporary ??

 

[88general88]

1 question I have that I haven’t heard anyone talk about is...Since DNP has obviously been proven to increase the metabolism up to 64% in some cases, would dnp cause other compounds,medications, etc. to metabolize in the body quicker. For example: let’s take Test Propionate, I think most would agree that it has about a 2-3 day half-life. However, would that half-life decrease, during the period of time when a individual is dosing NITRO?? Same question regarding medication, let’s say someone is taking sleep medication, would taking the sleep medication while on dnp cause the onset effect of of the sleep meds to come on a lot quicker and not last as long?? Hoping someone can help answer these questions.

 

[Rockclimber]

DNP simply disrupts the electron transport chain. It basically gets in the cell and eats up all the H+ ions forcing the body to produce more adenosine triphosphate AKA increasing metabolism. It should not cause steroids or other medications to lose their half life and/or be used up quicker

 

[musclemedicine]

1 question I have that I haven’t heard anyone talk about is...Since DNP has obviously been proven to increase the metabolism up to 64% in some cases, would dnp cause other compounds,medications, etc. to metabolize in the body quicker. For example: let’s take Test Propionate, I think most would agree that it has about a 2-3 day half-life. However, would that half-life decrease, during the period of time when a individual is dosing NITRO?? Same question regarding medication, let’s say someone is taking sleep medication, would taking the sleep medication while on dnp cause the onset effect of of the sleep meds to come on a lot quicker and not last as long?? Hoping someone can help answer these questions.

Half life of hormones are not correlated to metabolic rate. There is a fancy term call pharmacokinetics: how drugs are moved through your body and cleared from the body. Which differs for different classes of drugs. So the answer is no.

 

[88general88]

Half life of hormones are not correlated to metabolic rate. There is a fancy term call pharmacokinetics: how drugs are moved through your body and cleared from the body. Which differs for different classes of drugs. So the answer is no.

Okay, thank you for clearing that up

 

[88general88]

Morning Gentlemen, hope everyone turned their clocks forward an hour. I forgot, luckily I am not working this morning. I know that I said that I would be posting every evening before my head hits the pillow but because I am dosing at 4:30-5pm in the evening I feel that it would be more productive for me tobeait to post until the following morning. This way allowing me to give my experience throughout the night, and rate my overall sleep.
**DNP LOG 3/9/2019
88general88**

Weight - 214lbs
6:15am - Wake up
⁃ 24oz of coffee 4Tbsp Fr van. Creamer.

8am - Meal 1 -
⁃ 2 scoops of whey
⁃ 2tbsp of PB
⁃ 1.5 Cups of Alm/csh milk+pro
⁃ 1tbsp MCt oil
⁃ 10g creatine
⁃ 1cup plain Greek yogurt

11am - meal2 - 12oz iced green tea
⁃ 4oz top sirloin
⁃ 2oz chicken drumstick
⁃ Low carb tortilla
⁃ Slice Swiss cheese
⁃ 1sm. avocado

3pm - meal 3 -
⁃ 1 scoop of whey
⁃ 1 tbsp PB
⁃ 1 pineapple spear
⁃ 1/2cup Greek yogurt

5:30pm - meal4 - 12oz iced grn tea
⁃ 2cups mixed greens
⁃ 2tbsp balsamic vinaigrette
⁃ 1sm. Avocado

**Supplements**
Vitamin E
Vitamin C
ALA
L-Carnitine
Chromium Picolinate

Saturday happened to be my day off from the gym. My day of doing absolutely nothing. My week is busy between school, gym, and work. So 2 weeks ago I made the decision that Saturday would be an ideal day for me to rest. Anyhow, I was exhausted upon waking up. The rest of my day I spent sleeping, reading, and watching tv. A nice relaxing Saturday that I earned. Throughout the day I wouldn’t say I was hot, but humid is probably the best description. When I woke up yesterday my Shirt was damp from top to lower back, as-well as, the front of my shirt in the middle of my chest. The usual spots I sweat the most. During the day because I wasn’t doing much I didn’t find that I was sweaty but when, I did end up jumping in the shower around 2pm I noticed I was stickier than normal. If I find I need to go to the grocery store for something I am able to carry back in 1 or 2 bags, I try to save my gas and end up riding my bike because of the health factor too. So I went to grab ingredients to make salad for dinner, and felt like I wanted steak, so I splurged and got some top sirloin. Got back from the store which was 2 mile ride round trip, and was wishing I would have held off on that shower cause I sweating. Got home, took my other dose of 200mgs. After that J noticed at around 8pm went to wipe beads of sweat from my forehead, it was beading not profusely though. Went to sleep at 8:30pm. I took 50mg of trazadone, and 1mg of prazosin which helps with my ptsd night terrors that I get a couple times a week. And passed the fuck out. Slept like a log through the entire night and woke up today at 7:36am. So all in all my day was good, if I noticed anything it wasn’t enough for me to start thinking that it was or could become unbearable. I will follow up with you guys again tomorrow.

 

[88general88]

DNP LOG - 3/10/2019-
88general88
6:15am - wake up
24oz - coffee
4tsp of vanilla/Carmel creamer

7am -
Sustanon 300mg
Test prop 50mg
Mast. Prop 50mg


7:30am - Meal 1 -
Oatmeal w/ MCt oil + 1 swNlow
1scoop of whey isolate

12:00pm -PRE WO - Cardio
12:30pm - weights
1:30-1:45pm - PWO CARDIO

2:15pm - meal 2
1 - 6oz. pork chop(center chop)
Small bowl of mixed greens.
12oz iced green tea w/ Bal’s. Ving
1 sm avocado

5pm - meal 3
Repeat previous

8:30pm - meal 4
1scoop whey
12oz glass of unsweetened cashew milk

9pm - bed
50mg trazadone
1mg prazosin
25mg Winstrol

My workout today was nothing short of insane. Very surprised, due to all the things I have read regarding people saying they had absolutely no energy. Which I have to admit I have been so exhausted. When I sit down on the couch at my house, I can’t even watch a full tv episode before passing out. I have never been like this. Wondering if this is the same thing people talk about when they mention lethargy. To me it’s more like sleep walking. But I am grateful I was able to push thru and have a productive workout. The rest of the day a complete zombie. Mentally, still able to concentrate but physically just unbelievably tired. Took my dose at 4:30pm because It Was either then or later when I returned from a meeting at like 8:30pm. Anyhow, the entire time I was outside at this AA meeting I go to, so glad I wasn’t coupd up because I was feeling warm and sticky. When I got home made my shake, and got ready for sleep. I slept pretty good, woke up a couple times to take a leak, one of the time I woke up I went down stairs and ate half a pork chop. When I got back up stairs to lay down I noticed the pillow I was using was wet on one side so I flipped it. I also put a T-shirt on because since I noticed I had been sweating I didn’t want to sweat and have it on the blanket I sleep on top of. I am blessed I have a window at the head of my bed, so I have been sleeping on top of my blanket nothing covering me with the window open and I get a breeze that seems to keep me cool. Anyhow I repeated the same dosages of supplement from March 9th. All in all I can honestly say I feel it working. I am not binging out on fluids. But when I am thirsty, I drink. But refuse to force fluids down my throat if I am not thirsty. I already have to pissed a couple times an hour as is. I haven’t weighed myself yet but will post my weight once I do. Stay tuned for tomorrow’s log.

 

[Luntyboi]

Personal experience only, I find 400mg per day adequate 600 is doable however that would be my upper limit. i take last thing at night so it peaks while im asleep makes the next day at work more bearable!!! lol
have done 4 runs usually lasting about 3 weeks. and even though i know what my limits are i still leave 4 days at a low dose before ramping up.
on my first run i did find i got a slight allegic reaction but some antihistamines sorted that right out.
as for carbs i do try to vary it however i find after 10 days or so, i naturally go to low carb just so i can handle it for the longer term.

 

[88general88]

So ... I was reading an article today that talked about how 3!days prior to starting dnp that it’s a good idea to delete oneself of carbs. It didn’t go into detail regarding what he meant by depleting carbs but I know what carbs are and I know what word deplete means but I found it weird that he would carb deplete for two days but then go on to say that running dnp on to low of amount of carbs can cause one to become hypoglycemic. And that no one should ever run dnp while In ketosis. So I am wondering if anyone could shed some light on this for me.
I just got done with my workout. Weighed myself and I am 217lbs. I am a little confused. I am going to removed 1 complete meal from the equation. Yesterday, I noticed that I really wasn’t as hungry as usual. I think maybe because I have throw carbs back into the equation which has caused me to feel really full.

 

[Luntyboi]

So ... I was reading an article today that talked about how 3!days prior to starting dnp that it’s a good idea to delete oneself of carbs. It didn’t go into detail regarding what he meant by depleting carbs but I know what carbs are and I know what word deplete means but I found it weird that he would carb deplete for two days but then go on to say that running dnp on to low of amount of carbs can cause one to become hypoglycemic. And that no one should ever run dnp while In ketosis. So I am wondering if anyone could shed some light on this for me.
I just got done with my workout. Weighed myself and I am 217lbs. I am a little confused. I am going to removed 1 complete meal from the equation. Yesterday, I noticed that I really wasn’t as hungry as usual. I think maybe because I have throw carbs back into the equation which has caused me to feel really full.

Before peeps quote the science stuff, im gonna chirp in with do what works for you. i have done the carb deplete thing, i have done with low carbs throughout and high carbs. all previous runs were without aas, however this one i ran aas halfway through. have just finished my stint on dnp so waiting for the water weight to come off. Currently however I am the same weight as when i started. I have lost bf as am more vascular etc, but i have to say, for me the one that worked the best was without a carb deplete and also i ran moderate to highish carbs throughout. yes i sweated like a pig but i lost a fair bit of weight too and didnt feel as lethargic throughout the day.

 

[Eman]

So ... I was reading an article today that talked about how 3!days prior to starting dnp that it’s a good idea to delete oneself of carbs. It didn’t go into detail regarding what he meant by depleting carbs but I know what carbs are and I know what word deplete means but I found it weird that he would carb deplete for two days but then go on to say that running dnp on to low of amount of carbs can cause one to become hypoglycemic. And that no one should ever run dnp while In ketosis. So I am wondering if anyone could shed some light on this for me.
I just got done with my workout. Weighed myself and I am 217lbs. I am a little confused. I am going to removed 1 complete meal from the equation. Yesterday, I noticed that I really wasn’t as hungry as usual. I think maybe because I have throw carbs back into the equation which has caused me to feel really full.

The idea is that the DNP won't need to deplete existing glycogen in your muscles because you'll already have depleted yourself.

It's not necessary in any way shape or form.

 

[88general88]

Thank you. So how long was your most recent run. I have never heard of someone not loosing weight on it. Most of the other logs show a daily weight loss associated with dnp. How much were you running and for how long.

 

[Luntyboi]

200 ed first 3 days
400 ed for next 7
Got bit frustrated so ran 600 for 5 days
Then back down to 400 for a further 8 days.

It's the only run I havent seen any loss so far. But started tren mast test cycle halfway through. And I know I was holding a shit ton of water. But no weight fluctuation was weird. Was running a 500 to 700 deficit it in cals with a split of 15/30/55 carb fat prot
Only ran over on carbs one day when missis made me scrambled eggs on toast for breakfast.
I have lost just shy of 2 inches from gut. (Had a nice bulk over xmas ) so the fat loss is there. But no weight loss. I mean personally I dont mind. I would love to have less body fat and stay this weight lol. I mean sure previous cycles I had more bf. But was recuperating from a car accident. But this run was unexpected. I began to think maybe air had gotten to them and the dnp had magically disappeared from the tabs with time.
They had all been dosed and made by me with same batch of powder. (Took me 2 years and a lot of research to take the plunge to dnp and I sure as hell wasnt gonna leave it to anyone else to make) so I dunno mate what happened on this one. I'm still happy with the results just odd. That's all.

 

[Eman]

200 ed first 3 days
400 ed for next 7
Got bit frustrated so ran 600 for 5 days
Then back down to 400 for a further 8 days.

It's the only run I havent seen any loss so far. But started tren mast test cycle halfway through. And I know I was holding a shit ton of water. But no weight fluctuation was weird. Was running a 500 to 700 deficit it in cals with a split of 15/30/55 carb fat prot
Only ran over on carbs one day when missis made me scrambled eggs on toast for breakfast.
I have lost just shy of 2 inches from gut. (Had a nice bulk over xmas ) so the fat loss is there. But no weight loss. I mean personally I dont mind. I would love to have less body fat and stay this weight lol. I mean sure previous cycles I had more bf. But was recuperating from a car accident. But this run was unexpected. I began to think maybe air had gotten to them and the dnp had magically disappeared from the tabs with time.
They had all been dosed and made by me with same batch of powder. (Took me 2 years and a lot of research to take the plunge to dnp and I sure as hell wasnt gonna leave it to anyone else to make) so I dunno mate what happened on this one. I'm still happy with the results just odd. That's all.

The water making your weight go up while your bodyfat goes down is pretty common. A lot of people think they aren't losing any weight because of this. It'll all drop off at the end.

 

[Luntyboi]

Yeah thats what i am hoping. Just found it odd as on none of my other runs did i hold so much water. i would have stops and stalls then drop a few pounds then stop then drop a few pounds. we will see what happens

 

[88general88]

DNP LOG - 3/11/2019-
88general88
6:15am - wake up
24oz - coffee
4tsp of vanilla/Carmel creamer

8:00am - GEAR
Test prop 50mg
Mast. Prop 50mg

12:00pm -PRE WO - Cardio
12:30pm - weights
1:30-1:45pm - PWO CARDIO

2:15pm - meal 1
2 scoops of Whey isolate
12oz glass of unsweetened cashew milk
10g creatine

5pm - meal 3
1 - 4oz. pork chop(center chop)
bowl of mixed greens. Caesar dressing 3 tbsp
12oz iced green tea
1 sm avocado

7:00pm - meal 4
1 scoop whey isolate
2tbsp of P-butter

8:30pm - BED
50mg trazadone
1mg prazosin

11pm - woke up
1 blueberry-glazed donut

Okay so check it out, my overall day yesterday was pretty normal, during my workout I didn't feel like I was weaker than normal, but when I got home from work/gym I was so tired that after I ate my salad I fell asleep writing a reply to a thread on Meso. thank god I didn't click post because there was a bunch of z's and r's looking like i fell asleep pressing down on the key. lol. when I woke up i noticed i had only been asleep for about 45mins but was totally drenched in sweat, head to toe. i had to peel my sweaty-ass arms off my leather couch. upon getting up i felt like i had a lot more energy, however about 30 mins later found that yet again i was tired as fuck. after waking up i changed my shirt, and manged to stay somewhat dry until about 10 mins before laying my head on my pillow. the it seemed like as soon as my head hit that fucking pillow the sprinklers came on. Now, some of you know that i struggle with drug use years ago, but have been sober for quite a while. sweating never really ever bother me because of the 1.5 years i was strung out on meth. so when i initially heard that dnp caused people to profusely sweat I thought to myself that's not bad i can handle that easy. The amount of sweat that started coming out of my pores was on a different level. anyhow i managed to fal alseep, but i only stayed asleep for about 2.5 hours before waking up drenched. so i went downstairs, at this point my body was on autopilot when i walked into the kitchen and notice that a roommate had set a plate of donuts out on the counter-top. what a fucking asshole, right? doesnt he know what i am trying to do here. I know he does. lolol. it was like I had zero control over the blueberry glazed donut. I looked at it and before i knew it i had inhaled it. that poor donut, had no idea what hit him. Now i know what people talk about, regarding the lack of self control at certain times when it comes to carbs. i have more self control than anyone I fucking know, so for a donut to have gotten the best of me, it scared me. i decided to step out onto the back patio to get some air hit my vape a couple times, the cool air felt amazing. when I went back up stairs and right before climbing into bed i notice that somehow a fan had moved itself next to my bed and turned itself on. hmmmm, that's weird i thought to myself, all of a sudden i hear a knock on my door and my roommate walked in told me that he had knocked on my door earlier to ask me a question and i didn't answer so he peeked his head in the door and saw i was asleep. he also noticed that i wasn't sleeping under the covers and that my back and forehead was gleaming with sweat, so he grabbed the fan from his room and brought it into mine and turned it on. fucking cool, right? so i thanked him and drank about 10-12oz of water. grabbed a different pillow out of my closet, put another case on it and laid my head back to sleep. all in all that was my day. the dnp is working. I was shocked to have noticed that i actually weighed more on the scale that i have in quite a while.