2,4-DiNitroPhenol [DNP]

Discussion in 'Steroid Forum' started by Heretic, Jan 10, 2004.

  1. Eman

    Eman Member

    Retarded.
     
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  2. rbj

    rbj Junior Member

    Please don’t make stupid comments. front load to get saturation level to where it would be several days in because of its half-life. Stay away from chemicals you know nothing about/don’t do enough research on i guess. Have a spread sheet somewhere i’m going to post some more.

    edit: any other kid getting triggered by my post? should i not post my experience let me know in DM
     
    Last edited: Feb 17, 2019
  3. Havah

    Havah Member

    Does frontloading DNP even makes blood steady state levels reached faster ?

    Cos you know its not always the case, some drugs cinetics wont be changed much by using massive doses the first days
     
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  4. Eman

    Eman Member

    Please, save your ridiculous lecture... I've forgotten more about DNP than you'll ever know. I understand exactly what you were trying to do and that's the kind of shit that kills people. So with that said, yes... Keep your "experiences" to yourself. I'm not "triggered"... That refers to reacting to something based entirely on emotion but I'm reacting based on facts, I can cite multiple references of death or injury that occurred from doing just what you did.

    No interest in DM's with you... I'm fine with letting you know you're retarded out in the open.
     
  5. Eman

    Eman Member

    DNP skyrockets metabolism within hours of the first dose, despite it's half life. There is very little reason to front load. Even if you did, 1500mg is far too much. That is widely regarded as a lethal dose.
     
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  6. rbj

    rbj Junior Member

    there is a pretty good DNP excel calculator an old timer made on another forum maybe it would be worthwhile to post it here i haven’t been here in a long time i’ll try an search it out here but google dnp calculator he has the half life formulated in cells and you could play with the doses, but to that question there is a noticeable difference. but that’s only for blasts i really wouldn’t recommend anyone doing blasts i’ve just experiment over the years many times with blasts and its killed literally 6 weeks off a diet before a show.
     
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  7. rbj

    rbj Junior Member

    eman i’m sorry i triggered you lol you clearly have issues, get off forums for a little while before you run ur mouth a
    little too much and get tren-smashed lol. but in all seriousness it’s nice to find like minded people here, if everyone does their research / respects their body so much can be accomplished:)
     
  8. Havah

    Havah Member

    Yes half life and time required to reach effective blood concentration - and then steady state are quite different
     
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  9. rbj

    rbj Junior Member

    curious can i ask what kind of levels and results have you ran with dnp?
     
  10. Havah

    Havah Member

    Oh never have and never will

    I was just curious about where people did get the idea that frontloading with DNP reduces time to reach steady state level as its not a given with every drugs
     
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  11. Eman

    Eman Member

    Never say never. :)
     
  12. rbj

    rbj Junior Member

    Couldn't find the original source but i am pretty sure i got from the professionalmuscle "DNP - All the Info is Here!" thread which is the ultimate DNP article thread, bar none. I am not sure about this forums rules here is the calculator halflife excel file in a zip, very useful. Enter the start amount in cell D3 and the other days under the Dose; cells

    sample

    500mg dose day 1 - amount in system/saturation 500mg
    500mg dose day 2 - amount in system/saturation 814.98mg
    500mg dose day 3 - amount in system/saturation 1013.40mg
    500mg dose day 4 - amount in system/saturation 1113mg
    500mg dose day 5 - amount in system/saturation 1217mg
    500mg dose day 7- 1266.75mg
    500mg dose day 8 - 1317mg
     

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    Last edited: Feb 19, 2019
  13. DeathDefier

    DeathDefier Member

    If you frontloaded you don’t understand half lives.
     
  14. rbj

    rbj Junior Member

    tbh if you think frontloading means not understanding half-lives, then you don’t understand simple grade 4 math with the saturation dose. But to each their own
     
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  15. rbj

    rbj Junior Member

    Another log i used 4 weeks before a show in 2014, to share how i would use the saturation dose from the calculators in my journals here is a 7 day mini blast, using dinitros 250mg caps, played with taking extra capsule in the pm the first couple of days but it didn’t make any difference. That week was running 800mg test, 600mg tren, no orals for the week due to no workouts, 20min walk am/pm on home treadmill.

    Mon Day 1: 500mg DNP am 250mg PM, 100mcg t3 (234.2 lbs)
    Tue Day 2: 500mg DNP am 250mg PM, 100mcg T3
    Wed Day 3: 500mg DNP am 250mg PM, 100mcg T3
    Thu Day 4: 500mg DNP am 250mg PM, 100mcg T3
    Fri Day 5: 750mg DNP am, 100mcg T3
    Sat Day 6: 750mg DNP am, 100mcg T3
    Sun Day 7: 750mg DNP am, 100mcg T3
    Mon Day 8: Saturation: 1225.53mg
    .
    .
    Mon Day 15: Saturation: 48.29mg, (210.0 lbs)
    Final stage weight; 225
     
  16. Gbro

    Gbro Member

    Frontloading and half lives are difficult to calculate. If you don't understand why and how much to frontload, you suck at math.
     
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  17. Kracken

    Kracken Member

    I'm not sure front loading per se is a problem, but over 1 gram? Make sure your life insurance is paid up.

    For people new t it, as always, follow basic rules: if you have not used DNP before, start with a very low dose for several days to assess tolerance. If you change sources, or even if you get stuff from the same source after some time has passed, again, start slow. Stay hydrated, drink even when you're no thirsty. Powerade Zero is always a good idea. Low carb or not is debatable but high carb should be avoided. Personally, when I ran it, I avoided other substances just because I didn't know how they would all interact with DNP.

    Remember that you can still out-eat your calorie deficit, even on DNP, so don't go eating like a pig figuring that DNP will use up the calories.
     
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  18. Endure

    Endure Member

    Just curious after hearing some others claim this, anyone found that after stopping 2.4 for quite a while their metabolic rate is still higher than normal? Long after anything is still in the system.
     
  19. Eman

    Eman Member

    Many users report a "new bodyfat setpoint" long after ending the DNP. It's most likely due to the increased insulin sensitivity, it's not metabolic rate related.
     
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  20. Endure

    Endure Member

    Interesting so it's almost like a long term recomp effect.