2 for 2 in court this week

[Forthewin1123]

He fired two shots. Then took aim on the medic. After that he re racked. Why would you re rack in that situation immediately following 2 successful shots?

I hate to assume.. but maybe he just did it in a panic.. being he was only 17 I imagine his experience woth that rifle was very limited... I kinda can see this kid seriously shotting himself in this situation and think he had a malfunction when he actually didn't.. average soldier does lots of shit under pressure that makes no sense.. we all like to think we would act cool and calm but in that situation anyone of us could make a mistake of thinking we have a malfunction when we dont.. or jjst rack the bolt for no reason at all.. just something that we did for no reason when in a extreme situation

 

[Ferret]

A friend of mine in the special forces exclusively used a shotgun in name. He said he’s killed 2 or 3 people at once with one round. Good enough for him, it’s good enough for me!

 

[Zerg]

Moral of the story is don't attack someone who is holding an ar15.

The moral of the story is protect your community so your kids don't have too.

 

[MindlessWork]

I thought I remembered that guy reportedly being a felon with an illegal concealed carry... That and if you are raising a gun to point at someone, prepare to get blasted off the face of the earth if homie is holding an AR lmao

An AR beats a Glock hands down.

 

[Jestopherson]

Thanks for the CNN analysis.



At least you were honest about this..


More like shoot whoever is coming at you, since the others were trying to harm/kill you.

I'm not sure what you mean by that? I'm assuming it's some Jab at liberal controlled media and meant to be cutting. However as I said above. I'm a gun owner/lover and believe in the right to defend oneself. And Kyle did. Against the 2 threats present. He then created a third by taking aim at another who was quite literally stumbling onto the scene. And in that moment the medic was well within his rights to shoot Kyle. Since Kyle was an immediate threat. Do you not agree? It's okay If you want to gloss over that, but we both know if I had an gun and pointed at you, you'd sure as shit do the same back at me.

All in all he went there to shit disturb and knew he'd be putting his life at risk walking around with a loaded AR. So the bitch ass crying during the trial is what I really have a problem with.

 

[Jestopherson]

It's not that one can't handle the recoil.. but why? It's unessary in my opinion.. also if my wife or kids need to use it for some reason they are much better offer woth a high power 22 cal rifle then a heavy long shot gun. This is my opinion and what I've learned.. I've taken a rifle and handgun class.. and the things the teachers taught made sense..
Aim is a mute point.. you can be a great shot.. now run a lap and try it.. adrenaline made me look like I had never shot before.. in a life or death situation..or simply let's say if.your wanting a weapon for self defense.. you want every advantage you can afford.. so 30rds -100rds.. the point is advantage.. you want tje odds sracked in your favor.. having unlimited round capacity is simply to give you the highest odds ..not just for multiple threats.. or bad aim. I'm nkt arguing..just a different point of view.
In the rifle class they didn't teach shoot 2 times and see if the threat is down.. they teach to shoot until the threat is no longer. That may be 2 it may be 6 or 10 shots.. you don't stop until the threat is down and no longer moving..
Self defense is about giving yourself the best odds possible to survive.. for the majority that's gonna be a modern pistol or sporting rifle.. at the end of the day.. AR is just a gassed up 22. That can be made to fit you or multiple people with ease..
As far as failure I've never had one with my AR.. I have had 2 with a shotgun.. my own fault.. shooting fast and short stroke the pump..
We can go back and forth all day.. it's merely a preference thing more then a which is better or best.. I prefer my rifle and hadgun.. I also prefer to never have to use.them for any reason then for pleasure/hunting..

I can't argue any of those points as they are all good ones.

My lightest gun which is the closest at hand is a 12g over under shorty. 2 defender shells down range in under a second. Simply because it would be easier to explain why I was able to load that, opposed to my 556 bullpup in a home invasion situation due to our gun laws.

 

[fooba]

Had Kyle not been there that night there probably wouldn't have been anyone shot.

and had the retard lefties not let convicted pedos and rapist free on the streets they wouldnt have gotten shot

 

[Gbro]

He fired two shots. Then took aim on the medic. After that he re racked. Why would you re rack in that situation immediately following 2 successful shots?

I just suggested a stove pipe

 

[DeadliftSpecialist]

Gotta love being called a jogger when running away from houses you were burglarizing. He was technically jogging. Definitely wasn't out training for a triathalon tho :/ Not sure why dying at the hands of a white guy seems to absolve any minority of past wrongdoings and allow them to ascend to valhalla

 

[Jestopherson]

I just suggested a stove pipe

I know, I'd just be amazed that he was able to see that in the dark lighting on a dark rifle. Especially with the ejection port on the opposite side from his face while he's concentrated on the medic. That'd be some next level seal type situational awareness.

Why is everyone so dead set that he did not try to gun the guy down before the guy took aim on Kyle in self defense? He would've been well within his rights to put one between Kyle's eyes after he saw he rack a round and take aim.

 

[Gbro]

I know, I'd just be amazed that he was able to see that in the dark lighting on a dark rifle. Especially with the ejection port on the opposite side from his face while he's concentrated on the medic. That'd be some next level seal type situational awareness.

Why is everyone so dead set that he did not try to gun the guy down before the guy took aim on Kyle in self defense? He would've been well within his rights to put one between Kyle's eyes after he saw he rack a round and take aim.

I can tell when my gun stove pipes by the sound of the slide. Many malfunctions are detectable without actually looking.

 

[z666z]

and had the retard lefties not let convicted pedos and rapist free on the streets they wouldnt have gotten shot

I agree, our legal system is set up to make money, not protect citizens.

That means most of what cops do is revenue collection, stopping cars minding their own business, maybe planting a little drug residue so they end up in court, pay their fines, have a criminal record. Meanwhile the truly violent and dangerous are free to roam the streets to terrorize.

Violent crime simply isn't taken seriously at all, it's treated as if it is just apart of nature and that you should tolerate it.

Simple solution is to let the 50% of prisoners in for non-violent mostly drug offenses out, and fill the prisons with the ass holes that can't keep their hands to themselves. Of course that's not gonna happen as the drug war is the holy grail of what keeps the system going because it's much easier to gather up large numbers of perps.

I'm more of a one and done, I don't believe in giving second chances to murderers, rapist, violent unprovoked assault, robbery. If you do any of these you should be sent to a massive compound out in the middle of nowhere and dumped off into an open walled off court with other violent people and the citizens can pay for the prison with domestic and international monthly subscriptions so they can watch thugs and pedos go at each other, you could drop off weapons, make it sort of a Roman Colosseum.

And I'm not sure it's lefties that want violent people let go, I think it's baked into the system where you go hard and heavy on drug offenses that can generate revenue through seizure. There's nothing to be made off a violent thug.

 

[Mac11wildcat]

@Jethro

He fired two shots. Then took aim on the medic. After that he re racked. Why would you re rack in that situation immediately following 2 successful shots?

He cleared a malfunction with his forward assist.

in addition, when I’m being actively threatened and I’ve already fired two shots ANYBODY entering my space is seeing a muzzle until I determine they are NOT a threat. Kyle ran that situation as perfectly as can be, regardless of how shitty the loss of life is.

 

[Jestopherson]

I can tell when my gun stove pipes by the sound of the slide. Many malfunctions are detectable without actually looking.

Yes, same here. On either my 556 as it dings when it punches the round out or my PCC. The sound just changes when you have a failure to eject, we learn that through countless rounds put down range, but I've had maybe one failure to eject each out of thousands of rounds. However as Kyle stated it was his first firearm, only reason for buying it was because it looked cool, and from the sounds of it he had very little if any practice with it.

So I just feel that's unlikely my dude. We can disagree and that's alright, I just personally think he was a punk kid with a chip on his shoulder who wanted to be "the hero" but instead it nearly got him killed and several others shot. But that is just my opinion that's been built off of my experiences in life, as yours has been built off of your experiences. And I respect your opinion and do see the argument you're making. I just don't personally believe it's what happened.

 

[z666z]

Once the event was set into motion there was no way Kyle could have gotten out of there without probably being killed.

My problem with this is that when I was 17 years old I sure as hell wasn't out to save the world. I was with my friends having fun, probably pissing society off, not doing anything violent, but I sure as hell wasn't gonna go around cleaning graffiti off the wall.

When I was going to school back in the 70s and 80's, someone like baby faced Kyle would have gotten his ass kicked everyday of the week(I grew up in San Antonio). There were no kids around that wanted to save their town from burning, they didn't give a shit, it would have been completely off their radar. I got into my fair share of fist fights growing up, kicked out of school on several occasions, even one where I picked up a kid over my head and threw him over a concession stand after the guy sucker punched me in the face while I was minding my own business.

The point is back in those days we handled everything with our fists. There was never a year that went by that I probably didn't get into at least 2 or 3 fist fights, but I never thought about picking up a weapon period, it was just man up and beat each other bloody and move on. Today's kids apparently are too much of a pussy and too lazy to do that anymore I guess.

That's what's sad about today, kids reach for a gun, when it should be a rite of passage to get a few fist fights before you become a man.

 

[Forthewin1123]

I can't argue any of those points as they are all good ones.

My lightest gun which is the closest at hand is a 12g over under shorty. 2 defender shells down range in under a second. Simply because it would be easier to explain why I was able to load that, opposed to my 556 bullpup in a home invasion situation due to our gun laws.

There no wrong or right answer.. whatever your most efficient and comfortable with is what you should use.. the AR is just extremely popular in the US.. therefore it's used/seen so often.. what young man doesn't want a similar rifle to what their countries military use..

 

[Ferret]

Now we'll have tons of ghetto scum Ahmaud Arbery's running through our houses anytime we have doors open, claiming they are trying to learn how to build a house! HAHAHA. I didn't rob the place, the door was open! I was just looking! These scum balls have no sense of ownership, that you should stay out of or away from stuff you don't own. They think they are entitled or can steal anything they see.

I have a lot of friends who have Built their own homes. Never once have I seen or heard of a black building their own home! ROFL


White people are stupid for letting the animals in society get away with what they do.

 

[Gbro]

Yes, same here. On either my 556 as it dings when it punches the round out or my PCC. The sound just changes when you have a failure to eject, we learn that through countless rounds put down range, but I've had maybe one failure to eject each out of thousands of rounds. However as Kyle stated it was his first firearm, only reason for buying it was because it looked cool, and from the sounds of it he had very little if any practice with it.

So I just feel that's unlikely my dude. We can disagree and that's alright, I just personally think he was a punk kid with a chip on his shoulder who wanted to be "the hero" but instead it nearly got him killed and several others shot. But that is just my opinion that's been built off of my experiences in life, as yours has been built off of your experiences. And I respect your opinion and do see the argument you're making. I just don't personally believe it's what happened.

We probably agree on more than we disagree. I would have never driven one of my boys to participate in something like this. I certainly don't let them handle a firearm without being under my strict supervision. There were a lot of things that went wrong here. I don't weep for these particular "victims", but I do think Kyle's mother showed very poor judgement in allowing her so to be there.

 

[DeadliftSpecialist]

Now we'll have tons of ghetto scum Ahmaud Arbery's running through our houses anytime we have doors open, claiming they are trying to learn how to build a house! HAHAHA. I didn't rob the place, the door was open! I was just looking! These scum balls have no sense of ownership, that you should stay out of or away from stuff you don't own. They think they are entitled or can steal anything they see.

I have a lot of friends who have Built their own homes. Never once have I seen or heard of a black building their own home! ROFL


White people are stupid for letting the animals in society get away with what they do.

ur not allowed to criticize him because he's a saint. minority dying at the hands of a white man is automatically a saint, be nice.

 

[RGL90]

Thanks for the CNN analysis.



At least you were honest about this..


More like shoot whoever is coming at you, since the others were trying to harm/kill you.

I know right it’s not like the guy came rolling up in a ambulance wearing a medic outfit but a face mask and huge gauged earrings , sounds like a medic to me….