These are great points, please allow me to outline some of the obstacles that I, as a source, face. These are not intended to be excuses, but are real world issues that sources deal with, especially US domestic based sources.
One of our biggest obstacles if turnaround time for products. There are several facets to this. The first is that we may be different than most sources in that we never import large amount of raws at once- no more than 500g per shipment. We also have receivers throughout the US to mitigate risks. As a result, there is no guarantee that if I were to order 2 kilos of raws A, split into 4x500g shipments that every bag would be from the same batch. This would mean that samples from all four would need to be tested. Now it also takes some time for these receivers to remail. Now we extrapolate to 10+ products, multiple batches of the same compound, and then raws and finished product. As it stands now, it's difficult making sure all processes run smoothly because the time from ordering a raw product to actually having it for sale is anywhere from 1-2 months. Now we also add in the amount of volume that we move (we are on several other forums) and then we add in the testing component and it becomes a very logistical issue. I believe it can be done, but it would add another month or two to the whole process. In addition, I would have to raise prices to account for the additional inventory hold time and costs. I mean no offense when I say this, but I believe there are many whose number one priority at the end of the day is cost and turnaround. If not, everyone would buy pharmaceutical grade AAS. I believe UGLs have a particular audience, and I have mentioned before that those that are looking for pharmaceutical-level quality and accurate and precise dosing, we are not for you. Our place in the market is for those looking for fast T/A and no customs(US domestic source) and price. We do have a pharmaceutical line of ancillaries and meds, because I personally believe that PCT/AI, etc products should never be bought at UGL-level quality.
The second obstacle is the actual shipping of raw/finished products. The reason I am US domestic is because I am very wary of shipping out illegal items that go through customs into another country. Not only that, I will have to provide accurate contact information for the labs to contact me back at. This is a type of exposure I am wary of due to safety and security reasons. Safety and security have always been my biggest priority.
There is also the issue of source testing. We've seen that even independent third party testing, done here, that come back with good results are met with skepticism. Whether the disparity between test results and actual customer bloods work/personal feedback is due to different batches, different suppliers, individual variation, etc- that I cannot speak to. My simple observation is that if there are members that question third party testing done here, what are the implications of a source self-testing? Admittedly, customers can always test products themselves, but the only domestic test we have for products is testosterone. My personal observation is that a small percentage of customers get bloodwork, I can only imagine the percentage of customers who would send and pay for an international lab.
One last request that I have been asking for quite awhile now, is the raw graphs and spectrums from the lab results run through this site's program. I have looked through the results, but I can only find the page with a summary of results- is there access to the raw data and graphs? The reason I ask is because I have a contact would like to look through them.
I've tried to be as transparent as possible throughout this entire process. I've also tried my best to fix issues for customers when it comes up in a timely fashion. I know many are still wary of all UGLs, but I am trying hard to gain the confidence and business of all the forums I am part of. However, the reasoning for this post was to briefly outline why many sources simply can't "test their products before selling". Many who homebrew will attest that there can be large profit margins on these products. Our margins are severely cut through our safety processes but realize that many labs can make a large profit on these products. I would argue that not all lab operators are greedy and do not care about quality. It's hard to get across the message and reasons unless one actually begins to operate a lab, but accurate dosing and testing of products is not as easy as it seems. Especially for US located labs, this is a very realistic challenge we face. There are some details that I did not go into for security reasons, but hopefully this gives you an idea of why I have not simply quantitatively tested all my products.
