24k Pharma US Domestic Source

[weighted chinup]

I agree. There should be nothing fear if honest labs are doing what they are suppose to do be doing. If raws come back very poor they will finally have credible evidence to go back to their suppliers and can help the community out poor raw suppliers. If raws come back acceptable, then they can dose up to the advertised label, or bring the advertised label to the tested purity. If raws come back good, then proceed to use raws for finished product. If finished products do not come back with the same potency as raws, the source needs to look at their brewing practices. Cost is not an issue, the amount of business and satisfied and reassured customers this would break would be tenfold the investment. Please don't get me wrong, I am supportive of this move, there should be accountability. AAS are not cheap, customers spend their hard earned money on products sources produce. These customers should get what they pay for.

I haven't posted in this thread since very early on in the start, and I remember an earlier exchange where you said something along the lines of - you want to test stuff but no one is volunteering a testing connection or there aren't any readily available.

The community has been made aware of a testing facility that is readily available, with examples of their work and service. Personally I know of 2 testing facilities that will provide both qualitative testing and quantitative, both are located in the EU. I hope to see more people make use of these places in the near future.

The only thing stopping you is a logistical issue and safety concerns really...basically shit that's pretty much inherent to black market business in the first place.

That is not our intention, I do not doubt the authenticity or testing methods. The reason we ask is because we have had some labs and suppliers send testing results, COAs, etc that could have been either fabricated, done on purified standards that they themselves do not sell, results from another supplier and not their own, etc. By having access to the raw data to results that have been publicly published, it give us something very real, concrete and applicable, if that makes sense. It matches raw data with a real world application and lab, and the method in which they determined the purity would match the current published reports.

Please understand that I am in no way trying to be contentious or resist the idea of quantitative testing - it would only help and improve our operation. My intention of my first responses was to try and give a, albeit limited, look into why in many cases it is not as simple as it may seem for sources. I am hesitant to give much more information in this regard because of the public nature of this forum. Hopefully you understand.

If there are concerns about fabricated test results, either the source or a concerned individual can contact the lab, ask about the specific test, and verify it with a chemist. If someone claims a report has been fabricated, that would actually be very easy to prove/disprove. The customer or person making the claim can find out with just one email.

Of course there will be skepticism, and there really is no negative to wanting raw data attached in the report. However, if consumers don't trust a report from a facility that is GMP certified and has been audited by the US FDA, I highly doubt some spectras that 99 percent of people wouldn't be able to interpret in the first place will change their mind. The fact that these tests can be verified with a simple email does more for verifying authenticity than raw data will imo.

 

[naturalkon]

24 has only got things to lose by testing. We the consumer have something to gain, but not him. Trust me, I'd like to see testing too. But as long as he's getting plenty of orders to fill he's probably just gonna dance around this subject. Only way to make him test is to stop ordering.

 

[24kpharma]

It will take some time for us to get these avenues working and to get any type of results in. In the meantime, I am going to let the customers decide whether or not they wish to purchase.

 

[Looselucy]

Going for bloods tomorrow @1:30 pm.. it's gonna suck not being able to eat.... FUCK

 

[jackthegripper2]

Going for bloods tomorrow @1:30 pm.. it's gonna suck not being able to eat.... FUCK

What are you running?

 

[Looselucy]

500 mg Test c sun and wed.
.75 tren a ed.

.25-.5 armidex eod.

 

[Looselucy]

I'm guessing I can't drink protein shakes throughout the day tomorrow? Any feedback.

I'm pinning 250 mg sun and on wed. Just to clarify.

 

[Seven]

I'm guessing I can't drink protein shakes throughout the day tomorrow? Any feedback.

I'm pinning 250 mg sun and on wed. Just to clarify.

Just drink water...you'll live.

 

[Looselucy]

Thanks.

 

[naturalkon]

What about his gainz. There gonna disappear.

 

[evarthecaveman]

I'm guessing I can't drink protein shakes throughout the day tomorrow? Any feedback.

I'm pinning 250 mg sun and on wed. Just to clarify.

If you don't eat every two hours you'll lose all the progress you've made on cycle... Dude it's like one day just eat a fuckload after when you can.

 

[Heynow]

Even if he's taking 250mg twice a week. No food? JK.

 

[Looselucy]

I may just wither away and die....

 

[MisterBiggins]

I havent eaten for a day here... and even missed a few meals in a weeks and still after a BODPOD reading I gained lean mass... Missing a few meals on sauce means nothing. See the sauce will keep you from going catabolic. When you finish your test bring a shake with waxymase.. or some fast acting carb and about 40 grams of whey.. go workout and drink another shake like the first one... 40 minutes later eat a real meal with 100 grams carbs, small handfull of greens, and 1/2 fat. 2 hours later same thing but 75 carbs... 3 hours later same thing but 50 carbs and 3 fats ( one fat is 14grams) Go do a hundred push ups and pullups none stop and flex the fuck out... Bedtime 2 scoops of Casiene and 3 fats.
All that for free. Weight in in the am and let us know what happened.

 

[Looselucy]

I havent eaten for a day here... and even missed a few meals in a weeks and still after a BODPOD reading I gained lean mass... Missing a few meals on sauce means nothing. See the sauce will keep you from going catabolic. When you finish your test bring a shake with waxymase.. or some fast acting carb and about 40 grams of whey.. go workout and drink another shake like the first one... 40 minutes later eat a real meal with 100 grams carbs, small handfull of greens, and 1/2 fat. 2 hours later same thing but 75 carbs... 3 hours later same thing but 50 carbs and 3 fats ( one fat is 14grams) Go do a hundred push ups and pullups none stop and flex the fuck out... Bedtime 2 scoops of Casiene and 3 fats.
All that for free. Weight in in the am and let us know what happened.

Appreciate the info.

 

[Looselucy]

3 more hours until bloods. Everybody in the office is eating . If this is hell it sucks. Lol

 

[24kpharma]

3 more hours until bloods. Everybody in the office is eating . If this is hell it sucks. Lol

I appreciate the efforts. To my knowledge you do not have to be fasted for total TT. It will only affect certain readings like glucose levels.

 

[Looselucy]

I'll stick to the protocol of 12 hrs fast. Blood will be taken 48 hrs after Wednesday pin. Thanks

 

[bickel29]

3 more hours until bloods. Everybody in the office is eating . If this is hell it sucks. Lol

Dude, you need to time that shit out better. Next time get the draw done in the morning so that most of your time fasting will be done while sleeping.

 

[Looselucy]

Dude, you need to time that shit out better. Next time get the draw done in the morning so that most of your time fasting will be done while sleeping.

I know. But I had meetings all morning today and it's the only time u could break away for the day..