24k Pharma US Domestic Source

https://thinksteroids.com/community/threads/labmax-pharmacom-mast-prop.134366826/

@24kpharma here are results from pharmacoms mast p, you can clearly see the green and yellow in the vial, when I drop the mast p on the bottle they went from an orange to a dark orange in a matter of minutes, I was never able to see the initial green or yellow with your stuff. The last pic I posted whether it was a dark background or not the color of the glow changes and it was taken 30 min after the color it's never gonna stay the same.
 
I like you Rocco so I will make this short and sweet.

Anyone can read and comment in any thread, any time. They are hardly just for consumers and sources- and do you want to know the truly ironic part of that particular line of thought? This board is not for sourcing. Not even a little bit. So if I or rpbb or anyone wants to come by and take a quick dump on a source we can all feel free- because they shouldn't fucking be here in the first place.
You are one hundred percent right. I only reason I made the comment was because I hate dick riders that praise sources for no reason to sound as if they are in the know as much as I hate people that bash for no reason just sound tough.

I don't trust sources as much as you don't, but they are a necessary evil. If my local source dries up I would rather make a dicission on were to get gear from based on a thread on Meso then from a place like Evo or Readit. That is why I would rather see unbiased comments from members about sources then have them run off.

Kind of like keep your friends close but keep you enemy closer.

PS. Thanks for the 'I like you' comment. I like you too. No Homo
 
I always get a good chuckle at this question. Batch numbers? Do you really think there has been a ugl in the history of the universe that threw away old labels and printed new ones for each batch? Maybe Pfizer. Not 24 motherfucking k
His bottles and mine had the same numbers... For regular test base and trens you can get a good idea but the masts hardening effect is tricky to take a gander at especially with many other compounds in your system. The lab max posted looks like a no go. And like you said it's a UGL so who the fuck knows what's really going down. I've emailed this guy a bunch of times about handling this and I'm still waiting for an answer. We'll see I guess.
 
Why the fuck are yall trying any of the gear? He needs to post up the mass spec testing data or at the very least donate to anaboliclab u til he can get testing done.

Right now he is just a fucking free loader.

Why not, just happened to see there was alot of dick riding in this thread, and thought I'd remind everyone this is not a source board

I like you Rocco so I will make this short and sweet.

Anyone can read and comment in any thread, any time. They are hardly just for consumers and sources- and do you want to know the truly ironic part of that particular line of thought? This board is not for sourcing. Not even a little bit. So if I or rpbb or anyone wants to come by and take a quick dump on a source we can all feel free- because they shouldn't fucking be here in the first place.

I think we should have a discussion about my status here because there seems to be a group of members who are indifferent about me responding in this thread, a group who wants to see updates, and a group who does not want me to source here. I have stated this several times recently, but I am no longer actively sourcing here. The only reason I am still posting is because they are responses to members. I have not mentioned any or pushed any sales and instead have only posted responses to members and to try and quell any anxiousness and unease with ways you can pay with escrow, check your payments, etc. I have rarely, if ever posted and enthusiastically endorsed our UGL line. I have no qualms endorsing the pharma line, as those are straight from the pharmacy. But as far as answering the question I get asked "are you good to go", my answer is always to ask the customer to research and decide for himself based off feedback. As mentioned very early on in this thread, if the majority of members do not wish for me to be here and actively response in this thread, I will leave. My only concern is that there still are members will who @ 24kpharma and direct questions for me. So I think it's time we have a discussion and a conclusion about my involvement here. It's been about 8 months here on Meso, I believe my introduction was in Dec 2014/Jan 2015. Of course there is the belief that any source can go sour at any time. I am unsure what else to do in terms of quelling unease and fears of scamming at this point. I have even set up escrowed payments, meaning you can retract your payment if you do not receive your product. I have processed refunds and reships. The next step would be to send the product to customers first and have them pay later, but unfortunately this would not be feasible. There is little much I can do at this point except work on testing avenues and to continue what I am doing.

So the question I am asking is this: Does the community still want me to actively post on this thread?
 
https://thinksteroids.com/community/threads/labmax-pharmacom-mast-prop.134366826/

@24kpharma here are results from pharmacoms mast p, you can clearly see the green and yellow in the vial, when I drop the mast p on the bottle they went from an orange to a dark orange in a matter of minutes, I was never able to see the initial green or yellow with your stuff. The last pic I posted whether it was a dark background or not the color of the glow changes and it was taken 30 min after the color it's never gonna stay the same.

Thank you for finding the above reference post. In my earlier post today, I also mentioned that in my own labmax of the oil I did not get a clear green vial A and yellow vial B either. In the above posted labmax, vial B under UV looks green rather than the orange that corresponds with Mast P. Do we have any suggestions on what could be the product that you labmaxed earlier today? There are only a few compounds with orange under UV+B. One of the most prominent is EQ, but EQ powder is very distinct - it is a liquid at room temperature.
 
I think we should have a discussion about my status here because there seems to be a group of members who are indifferent about me responding in this thread, a group who wants to see updates, and a group who does not want me to source here. I have stated this several times recently, but I am no longer actively sourcing here. The only reason I am still posting is because they are responses to members. I have not mentioned any or pushed any sales and instead have only posted responses to members and to try and quell any anxiousness and unease with ways you can pay with escrow, check your payments, etc. I have rarely, if ever posted and enthusiastically endorsed our UGL line. I have no qualms endorsing the pharma line, as those are straight from the pharmacy. But as far as answering the question I get asked "are you good to go", my answer is always to ask the customer to research and decide for himself based off feedback. As mentioned very early on in this thread, if the majority of members do not wish for me to be here and actively response in this thread, I will leave. My only concern is that there still are members will who @ 24kpharma and direct questions for me. So I think it's time we have a discussion and a conclusion about my involvement here. It's been about 8 months here on Meso, I believe my introduction was in Dec 2014/Jan 2015. Of course there is the belief that any source can go sour at any time. I am unsure what else to do in terms of quelling unease and fears of scamming at this point. I have even set up escrowed payments, meaning you can retract your payment if you do not receive your product. I have processed refunds and reships. The next step would be to send the product to customers first and have them pay later, but unfortunately this would not be feasible. There is little much I can do at this point except work on testing avenues and to continue what I am doing.

So the question I am asking is this: Does the community still want me to actively post on this thread?
If you're going to guess if your gear is any good based on vague labmax tests, not sure why you are sourcing anywhere. Don't really care if you stay here or not. Maybe you could publish a disclaimer that you have no idea what's in your gear
 
I can't speak for the community, but I will throw my two cents in because I think this came about in part due to my post to RPBB. I don't give a fuck if you stay or go. I never used you and probably never will. I only made the post to stir up shit because that is what I like to do. I like to debate people and will take either side. I was hoping for RPBB to jump on me so I could argue. Instead Brutus jumped in and I did not want to debate him because that would be like wrestling a pig in the mud. after a while you realize the pig is enjoying it too much and is good at it.

Back to 24K. I think this is a train wreck in progress and I am sticking around for morbid couriasaty
 
If you're going to guess if your gear is any good based on vague labmax tests, not sure why you are sourcing anywhere. Don't really care if you stay here or not. Maybe you could publish a disclaimer that you have no idea what's in your gear

I have posted a few times that all our UGL line come with a "buyer beware" tag.I try and make it clear that these products are UGL products, with UGL quality, which sometimes means batches may vary and there may be issues with consistency. I have tried to set the expectations with our products, but there is only so much I can do in influencing others. I try to make it clear that quality products should be bought with at a pharmaceutical or human grade level, but I also understand that for some people, price and customs are important factors. It is this niche that UGLs fill. Customers looking for quality and consistent AAS products should be buying pharmaceutical grade, not UGL products.
 
I can't speak for the community, but I will throw my two cents in because I think this came about in part due to my post to RPBB. I don't give a fuck if you stay or go. I never used you and probably never will. I only made the post to stir up shit because that is what I like to do. I like to debate people and will take either side. I was hoping for RPBB to jump on me so I could argue. Instead Brutus jumped in and I did not want to debate him because that would be like wrestling a pig in the mud. after a while you realize the pig is enjoying it too much and is good at it.

Back to 24K. I think this is a train wreck in progress and I am sticking around for morbid couriasaty

Pfft.

I'd wrestle @brutus79

It would have to be a nude K&Y Jelly match though.

You down ;)
 
I have posted a few times that all our UGL line come with a "buyer beware" tag.I try and make it clear that these products are UGL products, with UGL quality, which sometimes means batches may vary and there may be issues with consistency. I have tried to set the expectations with our products, but there is only so much I can do in influencing others. I try to make it clear that quality products should be bought with at a pharmaceutical or human grade level, but I also understand that for some people, price and customs are important factors. It is this niche that UGLs fill. Customers looking for quality and consistent AAS products should be buying pharmaceutical grade, not UGL products.
Wow that's about the biggest line of shit I've ever heard. I was hoping you'd come up with something to separate yourself from the rest of the ugls, but you're saying send me your money and if you're lucky, you'll actually get what's on the label
 
Wow that's about the biggest line of shit I've ever heard. I was hoping you'd come up with something to separate yourself from the rest of the ugls, but you're saying send me your money and if you're lucky, you'll actually get what's on the label

I apologize if you were not satisfied with the answer, but the truth is we are an UGL. Our products are no different than any other UGLs. Our only distinction is that we have a line of pharma ancillaries and meds. But our UGL line is UGL quality from a UGL. It's simply the truth and me being upfront.
 
@24k are you a good dancer? cause you danced around the subject of testing like a pro.

So you're basically saying that you just want to make money and don't care if your products turn out to be shit or not as long as people still buy from you. You have no distinction with any other ugl, because a lot of them or most sell pharma meds too. But there are other ugl's that have a very big distinction with you, cause believe it or not there are some that have consistency and quality and actually care about what they put out instead of saying "oh well fuck it I know my shit is gonna be inconsistent so I'm not gonna do anything about it, it's just the way it is". You seem like a nice guy from some of your posts but damn what a pathetic attitude to have as a business owner.
 
@24k are you a good dancer? cause you danced around the subject of testing like a pro.

So you're basically saying that you just want to make money and don't care if your products turn out to be shit or not as long as people still buy from you. You have no distinction with any other ugl, because a lot of them or most sell pharma meds too. But there are other ugl's that have a very big distinction with you, cause believe it or not there are some that have consistency and quality and actually care about what they put out instead of saying "oh well fuck it I know my shit is gonna be inconsistent so I'm not gonna do anything about it, it's just the way it is". You seem like a nice guy from some of your posts but damn what a pathetic attitude to have as a business owner.

I think I may have put across the wrong message. In regards to testing, I said in an earlier post we will shift priorities but it cannot be done overnight. It will take a few weeks to get results, so for that I ask for patience. People are free to not purchase until testing is done, but I am also on other forums and websites so it would be unfair to completely stop sales for everyone because a subset of customers ask for it.

In regards to quality, my message is that I do not want anyone getting the wrong idea. I believe that customers need to have the right expectations when purchasing UGL. When you purchase UGL, you will get UGL pricing but also UGL quality. If customers are looking for 100% quality and consistency with all products then no UGL can offer than- you will need to purchase pharma. But that doesn't necessarily mean everyone is looking for pharma grade, some individuals are looking for price and domestic and are actively looking for UGL. In that case, I just ask that expectations are place accordingly. Hopefully that clarifies.
 
@24k are you a good dancer? cause you danced around the subject of testing like a pro.

So you're basically saying that you just want to make money and don't care if your products turn out to be shit or not as long as people still buy from you. You have no distinction with any other ugl, because a lot of them or most sell pharma meds too. But there are other ugl's that have a very big distinction with you, cause believe it or not there are some that have consistency and quality and actually care about what they put out instead of saying "oh well fuck it I know my shit is gonna be inconsistent so I'm not gonna do anything about it, it's just the way it is". You seem like a nice guy from some of your posts but damn what a pathetic attitude to have as a business owner.

Great fucking post bro
 
I think I may have put across the wrong message. In regards to testing, I said in an earlier post we will shift priorities but it cannot be done overnight. It will take a few weeks to get results, so for that I ask for patience. People are free to not purchase until testing is done, but I am also on other forums and websites so it would be unfair to completely stop sales for everyone because a subset of customers ask for it.

In regards to quality, my message is that I do not want anyone getting the wrong idea. I believe that customers need to have the right expectations when purchasing UGL. When you purchase UGL, you will get UGL pricing but also UGL quality. If customers are looking for 100% quality and consistency with all products then no UGL can offer than- you will need to purchase pharma. But that doesn't necessarily mean everyone is looking for pharma grade, some individuals are looking for price and domestic and are actively looking for UGL. In that case, I just ask that expectations are place accordingly. Hopefully that clarifies.
At the end of the day a UGL is only as good as the guys running it make it. Are there limitations or problems? sure but it's up to the owner to fix it and overcome those problems and not us to lower our expectations of what we receive/buy. Otherwise than you simply shouldn't be running an operation like this. Is it unrealistic to expect pharma grade quality? yes it probably is. Is it unrealistic to expect quality and consistency? no I don't think so. I believe that if pharma grade was accessible even internationally, than yes everyone would be looking for pharma grade. Unfortunately it is not for 90% of us and the chances of finding fake pharma grade are higher than finding bunk ugl gear these days. Most people look for UGL's not because of price or convenience but because they are forced to. It's been proven many times that people don't mind paying extra for good quality.
 
I think it would be counter-productive for you to leave the forum. I believe you should be here in an uncensored format where people can post up reviews and ask questions directly to you without fear of posts being deleted, and while they can be ignored by you if YOU wish... This would only be detrimental to your business. I'll speak for only myself in this matter as I'd hope that everyone does.

That being said, you have stated you will pursue a proper avenue of testing, at the very least for a sign of good faith to your customers and the members here... Although obviously anyone who brews SHOULD want to know everything about the gear they're selling and allowing people to inject into there bodies.

You asked for a couple of weeks for these matters, how about you set definitive dates for each foreseeable stage of these processes to be completed. This way your customers and the members here and elsewhere can hold you accountable to a very integral facet to your operation, financial integrity (in terms of product, and personal health.
 
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