24k Pharma US Domestic Source

And I'm completely baffled why people would buy from any ugl if it hasn't passed testing at anaboliclab.com at the bare minimum
 
I guess the only thing I can recommend is to come up with a testing program, detail how the testing program is implemented (can be done without discussing timing), test all your raws and advertise the heck out of the results and how that makes you different than the other ugls

Thank you for the recommendations. At this time, I have a plan for how testing will be implemented but a large part of it depends on the testing lab as well as my security measures. I know this is a bit cryptic, but if you would like to PM me I can go into a little more detail about items I need to figure out before I can give the board a more concrete idea.

Even if were to have testing done, I have no intentions of calling our UGL line different than other UGLs. The fact is that individuals make mistakes, I am not a pharmaceutical company, I do not have their machinery, chemist, auditors, regulators, etc. The difference between products made by an individual and a company is vast. I would not even compare myself to some of the larger international UGL companies that have been around. We're no different than your average UGL when it comes to product, where I try and distinguish myself is customer support.
 
Thank you for the recommendations. At this time, I have a plan for how testing will be implemented but a large part of it depends on the testing lab as well as my security measures. I know this is a bit cryptic, but if you would like to PM me I can go into a little more detail about items I need to figure out before I can give the board a more concrete idea.

Even if were to have testing done, I have no intentions of calling our UGL line different than other UGLs. The fact is that individuals make mistakes, I am not a pharmaceutical company, I do not have their machinery, chemist, auditors, regulators, etc. The difference between products made by an individual and a company is vast. I would not even compare myself to some of the larger international UGL companies that have been around. We're no different than your average UGL when it comes to product, where I try and distinguish myself is customer support.
Thanks, no need, sounds like your working on a good plan and I appreciate that. Keep us posted, I still think the guys that get ahead of the curve on testing will make out better in the long run. But I just may being naive
 
Thanks, no need, sounds like your working on a good plan and I appreciate that. Keep us posted, I still think the guys that get ahead of the curve on testing will make out better in the long run. But I just may being naive

I believe you are right. But to add to that, customers need to start sending in samples for quantitative testing as well. Source testing is just half of the equation, there can only be a limited amount of trust that can be given to sources. Customers and members need to keep sources accountable not only through words but also by actions. However, I understand there is a cost and risk associated with customers sending products out for testing. In this regard, I have started working on ways to anonymously pay out customers who have not figured out Bitcoin. Furthermore, customers that do wish to send testing across customs, please contact me so we can work on stealth for sending.
 
I believe you are right. But to add to that, customers need to start sending in samples for quantitative testing as well. Source testing is just half of the equation, there can only be a limited amount of trust that can be given to sources. Customers and members need to keep sources accountable not only through words but also by actions. However, I understand there is a cost and risk associated with customers sending products out for testing. In this regard, I have started working on ways to anonymously pay out customers who have not figured out Bitcoin. Furthermore, customers that do wish to send testing across customs, please contact me so we can work on stealth for sending.
Awesome, this is what I meant when I asked how do you differentiate yourself
 
Awesome, this is what I meant when I asked how do you differentiate yourself

Yes, I think we got off to a misunderstanding. I am supportive and dedicated to testing and trying to improve quality/consistency. Earlier I was simply stating the challenges that UGLs face and that expectations need to be set accordingly, not that I was make excuses. I will admit though, testing priorities had been thrown off to the side to appease customers who were looking for more products in our line-up. I apologize for that and moving forward I am making it a priority. Unsurprisingly the coordination has been tough as I am communicating with shippers in two different time zones in the U.S., a different time zone in Europe for testing, and a different time zone in Asia for one of our suppliers, there's no communication possible with the latter two during the weekends either. This, along with my limited times for communication - hopefully you can understand why I ask for some time to get everything sorted out for testing.
 
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Yes, I think we got off to a misunderstanding. I am supportive and dedicated to testing and trying to improve quality/consistency. Earlier I was simply stating the challenges that UGLs face and that expectations need to be set accordingly, not that I was make excuses. I will admit though, testing priorities had been thrown off to the side to appease customers who were looking for more products in our line-up. I apologize for that and moving forward I am making it a priority. Unsurprisingly the coordination has been tough as I am communicating with shippers in two different time zones in the U.S., a different time zone in Europe for testing, and a different time zone in Asia for one of our suppliers, there's no communication possible with the latter two during the weekends either. This, along with my limited times for communication - hopefully you can understand why I ask for some time to get everything sorted out for testing.
Could you tell us what products you plan to add to the list soon? Id personally like to see superdrol, winstrol, and anadrol. Maybe mixes similar to pharmacoms Stan/tren/test base mix
 
What is primo of the gods doing
"This is what is coming in the near future. There will be a forum on my site where members can log in. Beginning of every month, there'll be a poll or lottery draw to determine which compound from my inventory will be sent to SIMEC for mass spec. analysis. Who ever has already purchased that compound will send it to Switzerland for testing at my expense. I'll pay for 12 tests a year. We will nominate one of you to oversee this. It has to be someone that is trusted, who we know will send a clean sample and without my knowledge beforehand. I have someone in mind and I'll will contact them soon. The test results will be posted on the forum of my website. Any member will be able to email SIMEC to verify the results. The test will be published NO MATTER WHAT THE RESULT. This will keep me on my toes. I will still continue to mass spec. every raw from every compound I purchase from my sources. This is to keep the sources on their toes, and also of course to help me correctly dose the finished oils."
 
Could you tell us what products you plan to add to the list soon? Id personally like to see superdrol, winstrol, and anadrol. Maybe mixes similar to pharmacoms Stan/tren/test base mix

As mentioned earlier, we will be shifting priorities so I do not anticipate many new UGL products for the next few weeks to months while we work on potential testing. I will try my best to restock what is already on list but new products now have a lower priority.
 
As mentioned earlier, we will be shifting priorities so I do not anticipate many new UGL products for the next few weeks to months while we work on potential testing. I will try my best to restock what is already on list but new products now have a lower priority.

What are your thoughts on these blends of AAS, such as test p, mast p, tren ace, mixed into one 10ml vial. juat curious...
 
What are your thoughts on these blends of AAS, such as test p, mast p, tren ace, mixed into one 10ml vial. juat curious...

From a source perspective I am not a big supporter of blends. The primary reason being that it introduces too many variables, from brewing to customer experience. When brewing,
I prefer to deal with one compound at one time. 2-3 similar looking powders can cause errors in brewing compared to just one compound. It would also be hard for customers to pinpoint which compound is causing what feedback when using the product .

I can see and understand the advantages of blends for customers. But I am more supportive of the flexibility of vials with single products- allowing one to up the dose of one product, lower another, etc etc.

As a result, I do not foresee us carrying blends anytime in the near future.
 
12 weeks at 500mg/week 24K Pharma test cyp. All 3 vials arrived crashed and each had to be reheated multiple times throughout cycle to remove crystals. Labs collected at roughly 50 hours after last injection. Total test at 2239ng/dl. No expert here, but would have expected levels to be higher. Hopefully someone more experienced can chime in on that.

Not sure if this is the place to share labs, but here it is. If not, I can edit this post or a mod can.

https://www.anony.ws/image/DWWZ

That said, service and communication was very good and timely. Packaging was good and shipment was very fast.
 
12 weeks at 500mg/week 24K Pharma test cyp. All 3 vials arrived crashed and each had to be reheated multiple times throughout cycle to remove crystals. Labs collected at roughly 50 hours after last injection. Total test at 2239ng/dl. No expert here, but would have expected levels to be higher. Hopefully someone more experienced can chime in on that.

Not sure if this is the place to share labs, but here it is. If not, I can edit this post or a mod can.

https://www.anony.ws/image/DWWZ

That said, service and communication was very good and timely. Packaging was good and shipment was very fast.

Thanks for the contribution. I would post this in the Lab testing section bro. Whats the last 3 digits of the batch #
 
12 weeks at 500mg/week 24K Pharma test cyp. All 3 vials arrived crashed and each had to be reheated multiple times throughout cycle to remove crystals. Labs collected at roughly 50 hours after last injection. Total test at 2239ng/dl. No expert here, but would have expected levels to be higher. Hopefully someone more experienced can chime in on that.

Not sure if this is the place to share labs, but here it is. If not, I can edit this post or a mod can.

https://www.anony.ws/image/DWWZ

That said, service and communication was very good and timely. Packaging was good and shipment was very fast.
Pinned once or twice per week?
 
12 weeks at 500mg/week 24K Pharma test cyp. All 3 vials arrived crashed and each had to be reheated multiple times throughout cycle to remove crystals. Labs collected at roughly 50 hours after last injection. Total test at 2239ng/dl. No expert here, but would have expected levels to be higher. Hopefully someone more experienced can chime in on that.

Not sure if this is the place to share labs, but here it is. If not, I can edit this post or a mod can.

https://www.anony.ws/image/DWWZ

That said, service and communication was very good and timely. Packaging was good and shipment was very fast.
Thanks for testing.... Next time maybe try 24hrs after injection.
 
12 weeks at 500mg/week 24K Pharma test cyp. All 3 vials arrived crashed and each had to be reheated multiple times throughout cycle to remove crystals. Labs collected at roughly 50 hours after last injection. Total test at 2239ng/dl. No expert here, but would have expected levels to be higher. Hopefully someone more experienced can chime in on that.

Not sure if this is the place to share labs, but here it is. If not, I can edit this post or a mod can.

https://www.anony.ws/image/DWWZ

That said, service and communication was very good and timely. Packaging was good and shipment was very fast.
If you would get around a 1500 for one dose of pharma a week what did you think youd get from 2x? And factor in it not being pharma grade and youd get what? I think if you went in a day earlier you may have hit 3000... and if you uped it to 3cc you would have hit a much higher number. Are you looking for the 10x number? There is a link on the anaboliclabs showing Pharmacom test and claiming it hit a certain number with purity, but if you look at the thread youll see that right now there is a guy complaining about a number just like yours and that's with a product that was tested. I don't know about you ... I do know myself and a UGL is just that. They are dealing in china raws that is a shell game buddy. Do 3cc 3x a week and if need be throw in other compound and orals threw the rest of the week. Eat and lift like your life depened on it and never come off and sooner or later whether its under or over dosed you will be a beast. All this talk about testing is great but these guys couldn't test it all they would be sending back every third shipment and the chinamen would eventually say hey my test says it is gtg and you say it isn't and you've sent back 4 out of ten packs we sent sorry bud.
 
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