24k Pharma US Domestic Source

[Gramps]

I hear Gramps don't know shit, but that's just what I've been told.

Anyway, let's discuss the exes for TRT purposes. The general rule is 7-10x on pharma grade. I see 5-7x on UGL grade. So, I use 7x for general dosing to get in the ballpark. Everybody can/will see different results so don't hold me accountable if you grow tits and your noodle quits, this just works for me and most mankind along with most aliens.

I'm comfy with test reading around 800-1000 at this point as it's on the high side of "normal". So, to get there with 7x, you need 125mg for something close to 875, or 150mg for 1050, both close enough to get bloodwork in 6 weeks in order to adjust in either direction if needed. So, with gear "labeled" as 250, mixed at 320, with WHOTHEFUCKKNOWS the "actual" dosing, I'd do this: Figure it as 250mg/ml as a starting point, use 1000 as a target (1050 makes for easier math, your body can't count that accurate anyways), and you see you need 150mg to get there. 150/250 = .6, so there ya go. .6ml PER WEEK as a starting point for "around" 1000 with UGL "around" 250. If you want to do 2 shots per week, good luck with that .3 draw, but a smaller pin makes that easier.

Edit: Let's touch the 875 side... For the lower total T, aim using 875/7 = 125, 125/250 = .5 so pinning .5 of the "250mg" would get you "around" 875 total T considering accurate dosing and your body reacting accurately.

If you're happy with the goals of 850-1000, this will work. BLOODWORK is a MUST to verify the dosing, my math, and your shoe size! If you want it higher, pin away, but prepare for consequences if done long term, stuff like new tits, a 3rd eye, hair out of your ears and shit like that.

 

[Nick9]

Oh shit.. A third eye! That could come in handy if it's in the right place. My luck, it would be right above my anus. Talk about a shitty outlook. Haha. Man @Gramps i really appreciate all your help. Let me know if I can ever repay you.

 

[Kinikuman]

If you're happy with the goals of 850-1000, this will work. BLOODWORK is a MUST to verify the dosing, my math, and your shoe size! If you want it higher, pin away, but prepare for consequences if done long term, stuff like new tits, a 3rd eye, hair out of your ears and shit like that.

The 3rd eye sounds pretty cool. Does it grow on your second head? If so, I'll have to up my dosage. I always wanted to see things from the perspective down there. But with one eye, the depth perception would be for shit...

 

[Mana]

Any updates from 24k patrons?

 

[dmt31]

I hear Gramps don't know shit, but that's just what I've been told.

Anyway, let's discuss the exes for TRT purposes. The general rule is 7-10x on pharma grade. I see 5-7x on UGL grade. So, I use 7x for general dosing to get in the ballpark. Everybody can/will see different results so don't hold me accountable if you grow tits and your noodle quits, this just works for me and most mankind along with most aliens.

I'm comfy with test reading around 800-1000 at this point as it's on the high side of "normal". So, to get there with 7x, you need 125mg for something close to 875, or 150mg for 1050, both close enough to get bloodwork in 6 weeks in order to adjust in either direction if needed. So, with gear "labeled" as 250, mixed at 320, with WHOTHEFUCKKNOWS the "actual" dosing, I'd do this: Figure it as 250mg/ml as a starting point, use 1000 as a target (1050 makes for easier math, your body can't count that accurate anyways), and you see you need 150mg to get there. 150/250 = .6, so there ya go. .6ml PER WEEK as a starting point for "around" 1000 with UGL "around" 250. If you want to do 2 shots per week, good luck with that .3 draw, but a smaller pin makes that easier.

Edit: Let's touch the 875 side... For the lower total T, aim using 875/7 = 125, 125/250 = .5 so pinning .5 of the "250mg" would get you "around" 875 total T considering accurate dosing and your body reacting accurately.

If you're happy with the goals of 850-1000, this will work. BLOODWORK is a MUST to verify the dosing, my math, and your shoe size! If you want it higher, pin away, but prepare for consequences if done long term, stuff like new tits, a 3rd eye, hair out of your ears and shit like that.

Yes, the only advice to give is to get bloodwork, especially when discussing hormone replacement treatments.

On my TRT, I'm at 671 TT on 160mg/wk split into two doses. So at little more than 4x. Everyone is different, some people don't respond to testosterone as well as others. I know we are supposed to just go with the 7x-10x rule, but that doesn't apply to me, and this is proven by bloodwork on my Watson script and on UGL gear. On UGL gear i am a little shy of 4x my dose and on watson a little more than 4x my dose. That is just how my body works.

Everyone should get bloodwork. You don't have to post it, do it for yourself so you know what you're doing with your body and how it's operating.

 

[Gramps]

Any updates from 24k patrons?

I can't speak as a buyer but I've tried to buy from him and between using bitcoin and his wishy-washiness and not posting updates as he said he would, I moved on. He acts like I should beg for info and that ain't happening.

 

[24kpharma]

I can't speak as a buyer but I've tried to buy from him and between using bitcoin and his wishy-washiness and not posting updates as he said he would, I moved on. He acts like I should beg for info and that ain't happening.

Hey, I apologize that you had a negative experience but please allow me to clarify some policies.

The policy of Bitcoin and MoneyGram with waived ID is due to security reasons. I understand that Bitcoin can be a challenge for some, but it is the safest method of payment in my experience. Some individuals ask about Western Union, but that method is no longer an option because the receiver was continually denied by Western Union cashiers at multiple locations due to the "suspicious" nature of the transfers. The minimum for orders has two main reasons. The first is to prevent a huge influx of small 1 or 2 vial orders- I can be flexible with Bitcoin but with MoneyGram I have to be stricter on minimums. This is the second and perhaps most important reason, is that a large amount of MG transfers from different senders can sometimes be suspicious to MG cashiers. Ultimately, but the min order and BTC/MG w/waived ID are for security purposes.

For updates, I posted a few days ago about the current sales halt so I can work on a few items related to 24k Pharma. The dosing updates for the next batch, I am still waiting on blood work results from local individuals, I will have them within the next two weeks and the dosing of the next batch can be helped determined by the community. As for the dosing of the current batch, I have not received any blood work yet from anyone currently using the current batch. I cannot confidently give any sort of absolute dosing without a few blood tests from individuals currently on the batch.

I do not intend for any customers to have to beg for information and I apologize if I came off that way. I end almost all my email replies with "Let me know if you have an other questions or concerns". Please feel free to comment, email, or PM me if there were specific issues or wordings that I had not addresses with your inquiry. All customer emails are automatically deleted after 2 weeks (14 days), so if it has not been 14 days yet then I can address specific emails. If it has been more than 14 days our emails will have been deleted, but I can still try my best to address any concerns. There may have been a misunderstanding, but if there are communication issues on my end I will acknowledge them and change.

Thanks for reading.

 

[Gramps]

"2 weeks"... I feel like I'm wathcing Money Pit. I've asked in PMs as well as emails for updates knowing it's not normal for sellers to post updates, but still, you responded as if updating was not an issue. Several weeks now, and no updates. If you didn't intend to "update" folks, no sweat, but either it IS a problem to do so, or something on your end hasn't gone as planned as "2 weeks" has likely passed at least twice since the first I heard of it. Don't misunderstand, I'm not pushing for a rushed product, I'm pushing for being "in the know" as was offered. I've put in a good word for you with many on here based on our conversations and my digging into your work, but then nothing else seems to come from your end.

Bitcoin... I don't like it, so won't use it. I understand your policies and respect that so I won't be considering trying anything we discussed in email that requires it. As a matter of fact, I DID inquire about anything in stock to warrant a higher minimum and that was met with a vague answer that I felt like I was begging to actually ask for any more details so I moved on. You've proven to have a higher level of intelligence than most (that's why I picked you to research) so I knew your short answers weren't due to a lack of communication skills, but see them as a "don't bother me, I'm busy" response. When you have enough legit product to warrant other options, by all means, post it! Will that be "2 weeks"?? Nothing personal, but the silence you're offering is being drowned out by others. The ones doing the hollering (not here) are getting my attention.

 

[GymRat88]

@Gramps I can. Assure you his business is not wishy washy and everything I have had a good exp with the purchasing..great prices have not exp the gear but "BP" is a member that is running the gear and he has nothing but great things to say and he will be posting bloods this coming Tuesday so patiently wait and the bloods will tell everything..

 

[24kpharma]

"2 weeks"... I feel like I'm wathcing Money Pit. I've asked in PMs as well as emails for updates knowing it's not normal for sellers to post updates, but still, you responded as if updating was not an issue. Several weeks now, and no updates. If you didn't intend to "update" folks, no sweat, but either it IS a problem to do so, or something on your end hasn't gone as planned as "2 weeks" has likely passed at least twice since the first I heard of it. Don't misunderstand, I'm not pushing for a rushed product, I'm pushing for being "in the know" as was offered. I've put in a good word for you with many on here based on our conversations and my digging into your work, but then nothing else seems to come from your end.

Bitcoin... I don't like it, so won't use it. I understand your policies and respect that so I won't be considering trying anything we discussed in email that requires it. As a matter of fact, I DID inquire about anything in stock to warrant a higher minimum and that was met with a vague answer that I felt like I was begging to actually ask for any more details so I moved on. You've proven to have a higher level of intelligence than most (that's why I picked you to research) so I knew your short answers weren't due to a lack of communication skills, but see them as a "don't bother me, I'm busy" response. When you have enough legit product to warrant other options, by all means, post it! Will that be "2 weeks"?? Nothing personal, but the silence you're offering is being drowned out by others. The ones doing the hollering (not here) are getting my attention.

Thank you for your response. I can completely understand the skepticism about the blood work update. Here is what I can offer as a show of good faith, the first is two sets of pre-cycle blood work. I was intending to post them along with the mid cycle results, but I can absolutely provide them now and then again later for reference. I also had one individual do blood work 3-4 weeks in with the female hormone panel (capped at 1500 ng/dL) just as a double check because one of the individuals said he "did not feel anything". These results I can also post, but just be mindful the results are 3-4 weeks in and capped at 1500 ng/dL. Furthermore, one of the individuals who was going to do testing had a trip to Europe this past week, I can try to contact him and provide the community some sort of proof for this- as I know this sounds as an excuse. As a result, I wanted to wait 2 more weeks for his blood levels to re-stabilize.

As for more product, I have had several individual ask me about orals and I was anticipating on releasing them earlier. However, I realized that by capping orals I would not be able to keep up with demand. As a result, I am waiting to acquire machinery to help produce orals faster, and I do not intend to release orals until I can acquire such machinery.

I apologize for any of the shorter replies I may have answered to you, customers are always welcome to ask for elaboration or clarification and please do not feel that it is in an way an annoyance to me! It is simply that sometimes I cannot provide a detailed response until later in the evening. This is because I often do not have enough time during work hours to respond with detailed responses, so I must balance fast respond times with detailed responses. This is also a reason I have intentions to eventually go private- with too many customers to handle I can foresee turnaround time and communication being adversely affected. Again, I apologize if I came off as "don't bother me, I'm busy", that is not my intention. I try to respond to customers back as soon as I can, but if my answer is not detailed enough please feel free to email back asking for clarification. I cannot guarantee I'll respond within a few hours with a detailed response, but I will get back to you as soon as possible.

I am currently in a phase where I am looking to improve and expand several aspects of my operation. But in doing so, I just ask for the patience of community members and customers. I promise that the time I take now will be to better and improve the future of the business for everyone involved. I do expect delays, as some aspects are out of my control. However, I will always be available to answer your questions. I try to place emphasis on communication, quality, and safely. I may not have the widest array of products or the fastest restock, but please understand I am just a small operation. I will try to move forward with an urgency, but at the same time I do not want important aspects to be rushed. I hope you understand. Thanks for reading.

 

[Gramps]

@GymRat88
I don't have a lot of doubt in the gear. But this "2 weeks" has been going on since early February as I just looked it up and here we are the middle of March waiting another "2 weeks". If I though he was like the "others", I wouldn't be posting as I am as I'm not known for being a nice guy. I hope it can be taken as constructive critism by 24k rather than a slam. My spidey sense sees a future for him, my wallet goes elsewhere, though.

 

[24kpharma]

I don't have a lot of doubt in the gear. But this "2 weeks" has been going on since early February as I just looked it up and here we are the middle of March waiting another "2 weeks". If I though he was like the "others", I wouldn't be posting as I am as I'm not known for being a nice guy. I hope it can be taken as constructive critism by 24k rather than a slam. My spidey sense sees a future for him, my wallet goes elsewhere, though.

Customer feedback is definitely taken as constructive criticism, if there is someone that customer(s) are unhappy with then I may have to change the way I handle certain aspects of business. I understand that in any sales model, the customer is king.

I absolutely appreciate your input and the discussion as you may be voicing opinions that others may be thinking too, but have not posted about. I hope I am not coming off as a "sly" or "suave" salesman, but I do have good intentions. I believe that the customers here started the test batch around early-mid January, so this will be around week 8 for them. I will ask the one who has not taken the trip to get bloods this week if possible, and the one who has traveled next week. Admittedly, it has always been difficult to align their schedules with testing as I am the one who pays for and schedules all their private blood testing and they are not interested in doing it themselves. Please know I am not trying to stall, as I do not even have the test batch made, it is still in powder form and I made a small batch for locals to test. I just ask for some patience as I am juggling a few 24k business items as well as work items. Thank you for reading.

 

[Gramps]

Thanks for some updates! Poke your head in from time to time so you don't appear like you're hiding as some of the scumbag sources do. And while I'm not inviting you in with open arms, don't make me look like an idiot for giving you an opportunity on my part. We all know fucking up isn't taken well around here.

 

[bparmy11b]

I get bloodwork drawn On Tuesday so should have results by end of next week.

 

[24kpharma]

Thanks for some updates! Poke your head in from time to time so you don't appear like you're hiding as some of the scumbag sources do. And while I'm not inviting you in with open arms, don't make me look like an idiot for giving you an opportunity on my part. We all know fucking up isn't taken well around here.

Absolutely, and that was not my intention. I just wanted to clear up some potential concerns that you may have had. I am always around and reading up on this thread, however my impression was that by posting too much I would be bumping up my thread, thus increasing exposure - some may view this as a method to get more sales. That is by and large why I usually do not post unless there are major updates or there is a question or concerned directed at me. Thanks again for your time and I hope we cleared up any possible confusions or misunderstands. If there's anything you would like more information about regarding 24k, please feel free to request it.

 

[dajr225]

Yea I can only share on my experience. Communication and ta were great, and I'm really enjoying the tren right now. I'm not a 24k rep so if anyone thinks I am then fuck off. I'm just giving my honest opinion. I'd definitely order again.

 

[GymRat88]

Yea I say 24k is good business as well. Cant wait for him to return for more product maybe some orals?? That would great

 

[bparmy11b]

I'm definitely liking the tren.

 

[GymRat88]

That's fucking great bro you still at 400mg wk or 350? I forgot

 

[bparmy11b]

700 tren and 500 test feeling unstoppable