Thank you for your contributions. While it is entirely possible that a mistake was made on my end while making the product, this is not necessarily the only conclusion. I believe a few weeks back we also had an individual post in the 10x + range. Perhaps even more telling is that we can see individual blood here in the community with 4x blood work on pharmaceutical (CVS) test and up to 8-10x. From highest to lowest that's almost double the TT. So in that same regard, it could also be possible from UGL product. What's important to note is that the results follow a bell curve, with most TT coming say 5-7x with a few 3-4s and a few 8-9. We had several blood work results show relatively consistent readings, so it should not be too big of a surprise if we had a few outliers. I will acknowledge that there is still a lot of room for debate regarding blood TT levels. We will never truly "know" unless there are widespread scientific studies regarding testosterone blood work at the supra-physiological level with multi-dosing and other AAS interaction. I know there are a few studies done with supra-physiological levels, but the dosing frequency and general purpose of the studies are different than what AAS users are typically used to.
Perhaps the best way to spot check blood work with product is to get a few readings at different dosages with pharma test and then use that as a baseline for comparison. The ultimate reason for this is simply because different individuals react differently to different compounds. As mentioned before, we will cover and/or reimburse any testing done. But as always, I do value the opinions of the community. If, for example, we started seeing more 10x + range results and the community would like use to lower the advertised dosing to better match actual dosing, I will happily do so.
I also want to reiterate that I am not trying to deflect any fault of mine. It is entirely possible it was a brewing mistake on my end. However, we cannot know with certainty if it's due to individual variation or a mistake on my end unless more blood work comes in and/or we have analytical testing done. That being said, as an above user mentioned, brewing is largely not a difficult process, to weight the wrong amount is possible but an easily caught error. Furthermore, after doing so many similar brews, one can visually gauge the difference between say 200g and 250g.
Finally, for the sake of discussion, I just wanted to comment on how tricky it can be to operate in a non-regulated market. While I am very thankful we now have the testing program here in this community, and that we are able to access that lab ourselves, we, as an AAS community and market, are still very far being regulated for consistency and accuracy. A good example of this is that just a few days ago we had individuals claiming an underwhelming result from our test, but now we have an individual with testing coming in at 10x + TT. As another user mentioned, we are even seeing large regulated pharmaceutical companies coming in with 5-10% + margins of error. I apologize in advance if this last bit is beyond the scope of my reach as a source.
Thank you for reading and contributing.
