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[Abuckeye]

Just my two cents$ guys but I would pay extra for each vial of gear if I had proof that each and every batch was Mass Specd. It would be a considerable cost in the beginning but it would save you and us a lot of trouble. Like others have said Labmax only goes so far.
You do have a great attitude about the whole thing. Good luck brother your gonna need it.

 

[johnnyBALLZ]

Just my two cents$ guys but I would pay extra for each vial of gear if I had proof that each and every batch was Mass Specd. It would be a considerable cost in the beginning but it would save you and us a lot of trouble. Like others have said Labmax only goes so far.
You do have a great attitude about the whole thing. Good luck brother your gonna need it.

Everyone who has been burned once would..

The problem with new "labs" like Stretch Jr. here is they have no connections for testing.. They are brand spanking new and have no idea what they're doing, period..

I think most labs actually start out with good intentions then gear doesn't test well and they bounce..

 

[24kpharma]

Hey guys, sorry been gone for a bit. Back to try to answer anything. Seems like the the general consensus is no interest until testing is done. I really don't have access to a reliable, third party mass spec tester. I don't know what else to say about mass spec/HPLC, will more or less not be considered to be accepted until mass spec/HPLC/nmr testing is done? Thanks again for everyone's participation thus far.

 

[ruckin]

Hey guys, sorry been gone for a bit. Back to try to answer anything. Seems like the the general consensus is no interest until testing is done. I really don't have access to a reliable, third party mass spec tester. I don't know what else to say about mass spec/HPLC, will more or less not be considered to be accepted until mass spec/HPLC/nmr testing is done? Thanks again for everyone's participation thus far.

it will be damn near impossible for you to get the approval of the members here without having mass spec testing done to determine the concentration (how accurately the gear is dosed), purity, etc. It is possible that there are trusted members at MESO who have access to this kind of testing, and it would be very wise for you to do your research here to see if you can find any such members and find out if they would be willing to help you.

 

[24kpharma]

it will be damn near impossible for you to get the approval of the members here without having mass spec testing done to determine the concentration (how accurately the gear is dosed), purity, etc. It is possible that there are trusted members at MESO who have access to this kind of testing, and it would be very wise for you to do your research here to see if you can find any such members and find out if they would be willing to help you.

Hey, thanks for the feedback. I will keep an eye out for resourceful members and try my best to respectfully reach out. I also want to keep in mind I need to look for an unbias, quality, and consistent source of mass spec too.

 

[pumpingiron22]

Can't put my finger on it but this seems all to familiar [emoji46]

 

[pmac928]

Can't put my finger on it but this seems all to familiar [emoji46]

This happens week in week out here at meso.

 

[Bullyboss]

This happens week in week out here at meso.

Will it ever end?

 

[pmac928]

Again just another reason we'd be better off with no sources here.

 

[ebkallday]

Can't put my finger on it but this seems all to familiar [emoji46]

Exactly! And on a Thursday. WTF is it with Thursdays??? Labs seem to just manifest themselves every Thursday. Fuck it, I say when a new lab pops up on a Thursday, they have already lost. Add it to the SCOC... lol

 

[KGO]

I wouldn't run away yet. You're already offering better communication than any other source I've seen here.

I get that mass spec is hard to come by even for the bigger operations.

My advice would be labmax your current stock. Melting point test any raws. Take up any issues with your suppliers.

We'd like to see pictures of the labmax results.

Then honestly the way astro got started here was offering buy one get one for the first couple months he was around. Then he offered sales and specials every month or so for the first year.

You'd have to offer everyone those deals, so people can run blood work anonymously.

There's so many sources around, people need an incentive to use their valuable time running an unknown product.

 

[MassTurk]

KGO You seem To have interest in seeing this lab succeed. Any reason why ? You don't know nothing about him but ready to
Pull the trigger Like yesterday
What up ???

 

[24kpharma]

Morning everyone, will try my best to answer throughout the day. I understand many members here have much more experience than me and have seen new labs come in and out weekly. I don't want to come here and think "I'm unique, I'm different, I'm going to succeed where everyone else failed". I realize it's a very real possibility that bad raws will completely destroy the operation. I'm far from the titanic, and even that failed, just a small UGL trying to get a small proportion of the market. I won't lie to everyone and say that I will be able to handle the traffic if it gets heavy. I realize my shortcomings, including testing, operational capacity, and less than ideal brewing environments but I am hoping if I can slowly grow (rather than all at once) I will be able to better adapt to any issues that may arise. If I have 10 customers who have bad product that will be manageable to compensate and investigate, but if I have 100 there is no way I could manage that. My intentions on posting here are to get a bit more exposure and more customers, yes, but I will try my best to limit myself to what I can handle. I also do not have any aspirations to get big, both for safety and time reasons. I believe this community would be a good place for me to learn lots of quality testing techniques and this would be beneficial to me even if I fail.

Again, I acknowledge that I am no different than other source that comes in and out weekly. I seem to have gotten good feedback with showing my honest intentions, but I also realize good intentions might go out the window when you can't handle the traffic. As for the community, I ask to give me a chance. I'm not asking to blindly give it to me either, I realize I have to work for it and I am willing to do that. Thanks again for everyone's involvement and feedback thus far.

 

[KGO]

Of course I have an interest in seeing a source that actually communicates with his customers succeed.

Obviously success is only defined by offering legit and correctly dosed gear.

It's refreshing to see someone post complete sentences and appearing to be giving genuine answers to every question asked in this thread. That's all we have to go on right now. At the end of the day, it comes down to the quality of the gear. I see no reason to give him a chance to prove the quality.

 

[24kpharma]

I wouldn't run away yet. You're already offering better communication than any other source I've seen here.

I get that mass spec is hard to come by even for the bigger operations.

My advice would be labmax your current stock. Melting point test any raws. Take up any issues with your suppliers.

We'd like to see pictures of the labmax results.

Then honestly the way astro got started here was offering buy one get one for the first couple months he was around. Then he offered sales and specials every month or so for the first year.

You'd have to offer everyone those deals, so people can run blood work anonymously.

There's so many sources around, people need an incentive to use their valuable time running an unknown product.

Hi, thanks for your comment. This is your community, I am just a new member and a new source. If the community doesn't want me in their house I will gladly comply and leave. One reason I posted here was because I have nothing to lose, if I post get feedback that it's ok to stick around I can learn a lot, if I post and get told to leave then I still get feedback and end up exactly where I started.

I have ordered a labmax already, but it will take some time to get here. I do plan to offer specials weekly or bi-weekly (already had a decently successful tren a sale). I will admit now though that a buy one get one probably won't happen unless their are special occasions. I believe my prices are very competitive as it is. I don't think it's a good business strategy to have crazy mark-ups on these products. Instead I want to keep the price low and move more quantity. The more quantity you move, the more cash flow and the more people use and can test/testify for it. So I will definitely offer deals as often as I can, most likely around Friday as that ways I can fill orders during the weekend and do money runs without work interfering.

Let me know if I have adequately addressed your concerns or require further elaboration on anything. Thanks again for reading.

 

[24kpharma]

Of course I have an interest in seeing a source that actually communicates with his customers succeed.

Obviously success is only defined by offering legit and correctly dosed gear.

It's refreshing to see someone post complete sentences and appearing to be giving genuine answers to every question asked in this thread. That's all we have to go on right now. At the end of the day, it comes down to the quality of the gear. I see no reason to give him a chance to prove the quality.

Thanks again for the encouraging words. I am still unsure of how the board feels about me staying because a few WKM have expressed that I should leave. Could anyone give me some feedback on this?

It is in my interest to correctly dose my gear as well as I am running it myself. Furthermore, good gear and a good source doesn't need any advertising or exposure. The product and customer service speak for themselves. But atlas, everyone has to start somewhere. In terms of quality of gear, I will do my best to seek out and find the best quality. But it takes time and some trust from the community. I could do all the tests I wanted. If we assume that I find a reliable source for MS/HPLC/NMR, labmax my product, it still would mean very little at the end of the day other than I am doing my due diligence. What I have in my hands mean nothing, what is important is what ends up in the customer's hands. And for that to happen, some will eventually have to order some and test it out themselves and report back to this board. I do have policies in place to reimburse those that do. And, as mentioned in a few posts above, I want to grow slowly do a bad batch doesn't mean I'm dealing with many unsatisfied customers. Communication is an important part of this business and I want to keep that one of my top priorities. In order to do that I need to grow slowly and work my way up.

Thanks for reading and I appreciate any feedback the community might have.

 

[24kpharma]

Hey Meso,

Been following the "secret sources and SCOC" thread lately. Just wanted to get a sense of what the general community's consensus is. I'm guessing by the fact that there's no recent posting in this thread is that there is no interest in this source until further testings/reviews have been done. My question is whether or not the community would like to see me back at all? There have been several people that have voiced they do not want to see any sources on Meso, and I will gladly comply. I am just uncertain about how the community feels right now since there are so many opinions going around. If anyone could enlighten me that would be appreciated. I have not been here long enough to decipher the community's consensus. Thanks for reading.

 

[ruckin]

I think you would have an easier time establishing yourself by starting on another, less hostile board, establishing a good reputation, and possibly returning here when you think you're ready. Meso isn't a good place to start up because of the fact that, as a new source, you WILL mess up along the way, and this place will be less forgiving than others when you do and you're trying to make things right and learn along the way.

This is all assuming you're not a scammer.

 

[24kpharma]

I think you would have an easier time establishing yourself by starting on another, less hostile board, establishing a good reputation, and possibly returning here when you think you're ready. Meso isn't a good place to start up because of the fact that, as a new source, you WILL mess up along the way, and this place will be less forgiving than others when you do and you're trying to make things right and learn along the way.

This is all assuming you're not a scammer.

Thanks, sounds like a plan. I'll try to build a stronger business before coming here to source.

 

[Cole]

Hey Meso,

Been following the "secret sources and SCOC" thread lately. Just wanted to get a sense of what the general community's consensus is. I'm guessing by the fact that there's no recent posting in this thread is that there is no interest in this source until further testings/reviews have been done. My question is whether or not the community would like to see me back at all? There have been several people that have voiced they do not want to see any sources on Meso, and I will gladly comply. I am just uncertain about how the community feels right now since there are so many opinions going around. If anyone could enlighten me that would be appreciated. I have not been here long enough to decipher the community's consensus. Thanks for reading.

I don't feel like you should leave but I also think you should just continue doing what your doing as far as sourcing locally only, and not here.
I feel like you could benefit greatly from the knowledge and of testing methods that some of the valued members here talk about.
I also noticed in one of your post's that you stated that you have nothing to lose by coming here, while this is true we as a community have a great deal to lose. I'm sure your aware of that though.
Like I said keep doing what your doing locally become a active member hear in day to day discussions possibly share some of your tips and tricks. That's what it's all about my man.