2nd TRT Cruise 220mg Test U and 3rd cycle log.

I will say I am retaining a shit load of water. more than I am ever used to. I am up to 219 today. BP is 117/80.

I dont like the drastic but I know its coming with the bulk.

My friend called it "gains" I call it "Pseudo gains"

I did have the best leg day yesterday for sure..

Hack Squat 360 x 9
Belt Squat 540 x 8. I wanted to die after getting off.
 
ok yea.. I am getting off of the Deca. like a bag of water. Weighing at 222

Going to start NPP 30 mg M W F next week and do 50mg the week after. then 70 3x a week
 
Current weight 219(I think it's stable now)

25 degrees? incline DB press. I attempted to do 125x6 but could only do 4.

Embarrassing thing is I tried to makeup with 100 lb dumbbells and only did one and failed.
 
This is more of a mental note on my current emotions. Spending the holiday weekend with the in-laws. Pretty pissed off half the time I am here. I feel like I am at the mercy of their meals and here for 3 nights. I signed up for the local gym here because I have nothing else to do. There is literally nothing to go out to or see. Gym members aren't respectful to their own gym, don't rerack, don't clean up after themselves (wiping machines). It's a shit city. next time I'll stay here for 2 nights. Wife can drive herself if she wants to stay here longer(2 hour drive).


I brought plenty of protein shakes and snacks but it's not my space.


Weekly dose
test 325
deca 200
mast starting at 400.
hgh 4iu
 
Weight now. 221. I have been with my inlaws for 3 days and no access to my regular food I consume. so very high sodium foods.. a little annoying...


its not like its easy to go to the fridge and grab what I need
 
Cream of rice with protein and some nut butter can be your friends when you are away. Easy to make and dont go bad out of the fridge.
 
Weight around 223. I can feel the water on my face and neck.

Mental note on cycle. Definitely feel cockier sometimes when I'm lifting. Some of these lifts now I feel a surge of energy to keep going which is more unique, may be related to the bulk itself. Even applied to when I'm doing cardio(especially rowing)

I am in-between am I too far or just a balloon at this point. I am overall happy with the way things are going. I just hope I'm not lying to myself about size gain. I thought about getting a dexa scan to get an idea of the bodyfat. I would have to look at the actual fat mass that is there instead of percentage I think.
 
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Hunger and water is a little insane from deca. Same with this water. I may just increase mast and drop deca to 100.

I feel that the water is equally spread through my body. My chest is 45.5 inches now from 43. Arms are still the same size. My wife says it doesn't look like I'm getting fatter. Just more size
 
How has the libido been this time around on deca
Its still good. I feel more exhausted from lifting and I have to jerk off 3 times a day. we have someone living with us right now and the winter time has primarily been family.

I did DP a friend with her BF while my wife recorded a few weeks ago lol.

I feel like my body has been more exhausted from lifting/eating. I havent had an insane libido. I feel like it may have been higher on NPP. I will be switching to 60mg of NPP 9 days out from my last Deca injection so NPP MWF.


I dont like the water retention.

I weighed at 223 this morning. Starting weight was 207-209. I am now finishing up week 5. I would hope I gained atleast 3 lbs of muscle so far.
 
Sounds like libido is on point if you’re needing 3 solo sessions a day on top of whatever other action is going down.

15 lbs in 5 weeks sounds like a decent amount of water for sure, but you think it could be 12+- lbs? I don’t recall, you using an ai?
 
Sounds like libido is on point if you’re needing 3 solo sessions a day on top of whatever other action is going down.

15 lbs in 5 weeks sounds like a decent amount of water for sure, but you think it could be 12+- lbs? I don’t recall, you using an ai?
I am not using an AI.

last cycle when I got off I lost 10 lbs over 3 weeks. I also have never eaten like the way I am eating now in my life. this is my first bulk.
 
Weighing at 225 right now. I it just feel like overall water is increasing but same with muscle size.

I decided to be ending this cycle in 3 weeks and starting a unique cruise. looking at utilizing 60mg of tren with 100mg of mast.
 
So.. I did something I hope I wont regret. I decided to drop the deca cause I got quite a bit of annoying water weight.


something I failed to realize is that my preworkout has creatine monohydrate in it... which could have played a role.

I Was going to use low dose tren between cycle and I was about to open up my NPP. I decided to throw in tren instead to see how it is.


I also did talk to my wife about it. she said as long as I am aware of her input then she is ok with it.

I replaced the 200 deca with 200 tren E

I did 140mg yesterday and 100mg of Tren E today as a loading dose. I will end the cycle in maybe 6 weeks and use the last 3 weeks to help recomp.

not gonna lie. last night I had a violent dream(1/3 of them were). I also started running warm, kind of like I was on NPP.

I am going to keep a mental note in here on the effects. I also do not know if this part was in my head but I felt stronger in the gym today.
 
also since this water weight is still pissing me off. I am at 228 lbs right now. I am going to go to quest to get some blood work including IGF.

it hit me yesterday that this is my first bulk with 5iu of hgh and its probably working alot stronger than it should.

Ill stop HGH for the next week and see if that resolves it and resume at half the dose.
 
In waiting for everything else to come back. Everything is as expected on cycle. Liver looks fine too ....

I injected a total of 240 of tren for 2 days prior to this dose too. I was surprised the liver markers were within limits.

But look at this cholesterol.. and on a bulk. Very interesting
 

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also on Day 3 of Tren(Saturday) I did notice some extreme strength build up on the vertical press.

I also stopped the HGH to let it wash out and I will restart at half the dose. I feel alot better with this water weight off. It literally feels like I can breathe quite a bit more comfortably. Still waiting for IGF results. would be very interesting.
 
Timeline of Tren Injections.
12/8 did 140
12/9 did 120

12/12 did 100
12/13 did 100
12/16 did 125.


I did this for front loading. I did notice a violent dream the first injection... that was weird.

So far I have noticed some severe physique changes since dropping the HGH and adding in Tren. Even at a "low dose", water is off. I am weighing at 225.

I am still gaining weight steadily but I look leaner. I do notice a sense of confidence from this.



I dont know if this is a crazy rant or the tren is messing with my head.
But for every drug there is a therapeutic benefit. After a certain doseage you may have a side effect that increases. lets say for example that Deca max therapeutic dose for joints is 200mg. it can still be anabolic but there wont be a difference of joint benefits of 200 vs 500, but for anabolism there definitely would be.

Then for Tren the nutrient partitioning could be from 100-200.(Throwing numbers out there). We add in our primary growth promoter that causes us the least amount of sides and we can run it for straight anabolism.


Just a thought, but it does blow my mind that people run 500mg a week of tren among 1g+ of other gear and they are 30 lbs lighter than me...


The libido effect is starting to hit me for sure...
 
Criddo what's up with these weak doses? Don't you want to be a real bodybuilder Dave palumbo and Jordon OAKLEY recommend to run a gram of testosterone and a gram of dht or eq with 350-700mg tren? Not trying to be disrespectful. Just want to help a brother out get some results.
 
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