45, apparently I have BPH

[Ghoul]

Don't be scared of 5-ar inhibitors. I'm getting Morning wood while on 2mg of dutasteride and a test cycle.. I added dutasteride for my hairline and suddenly I don't have problems peeing.been on it 4 months

When they get desperate, far too late, over hair loss, and only surgery will allow them to pee without difficulty, plenty of guys are going to regret letting the hysteria get to them instead of really digging into the topic(using credible sources, not somebody's feelz) , or at the least, using common sense about these decades old. heavily researched 5-AR inhibitors. Outside a small handful of cranks, no urologist or hair surgeon has any qualms about putting their patients on these, and just adjust dose in case of issues.

Tens of millions of men using these meds without issue. The minority who do get them, like me, resolve it by lowering the dose.

By comparison, if you get a prescription for accutane, you have to sign a waiver promising not to sue the doctor or the pharm company over any permanent damage. No such requirement exists for Finasteride or Dutasteride. Are all the docs who's wealth is on the line. their lawyers, and insurance companies idiots, or is it because with 40 years of clinical evidence, no risk of "permanent damage" exists?

The weeks long delay between lowering dose or stopping, and DHT levels rising creates the illusion that something's permanently broken.

"Oh god I stopped using it yesterday and my libido hasn't returned, it's never coming back!"

 

[IronMetal_2]

When they get desperate, far too late, over hair loss, and only surgery will allow them to pee without difficulty, plenty of guys are going to regret letting the hysteria get to them instead of really digging into the topic(using credible sources, not somebody's feelz) , or at the least, using common sense about these decades old. heavily researched 5-AR inhibitors. Outside a small handful of cranks, no urologist or hair surgeon has any qualms about putting their patients on these, and just adjust dose in case of issues.

Tens of millions of men using these meds without issue. The minority who do get them, like me, resolve it by lowering the dose.

By comparison, if you get a prescription for accutane, you have to sign a waiver promising not to sue the doctor or the pharm company over any permanent damage. No such requirement exists for Finasteride or Dutasteride. Are all the docs who's wealth is on the line. their lawyers, and insurance companies idiots, or is it because with 40 years of clinical evidence, no risk of "permanent damage" exists?

The weeks long delay between lowering dose or stopping, and DHT levels rising creates the illusion that something's permanently broken.

"Oh god I stopped using it yesterday and my libido hasn't returned, it's never coming back!"

You are going to get downvoted for speaking the truth. I hesitated so long because of reading on the internet for hair loss and just ditched the bullet couple months ago. I haven't had a single side effect, if my hair wouldn't grow back significantly I wouldn't be surprised if I were taking a sugar pill.

5-Ar inhibitors are incredibly safe and won't cause side effects in the vast majority of users, escpecially those that are on TRT.

 

[Ghoul]

You are going to get downvoted for speaking the truth. I hesitated so long because of reading on the internet for hair loss and just ditched the bullet couple months ago. I haven't had a single side effect, if my hair wouldn't grow back significantly I wouldn't be surprised if I were taking a sugar pill.

5-Ar inhibitors are incredibly safe and won't cause side effects in the vast majority of users, escpecially those that are on TRT.

I feel I can speak on this with authority because I *am* that guy. I was a one man anti-Finasteride campaign for years before it was a thing. I understand the trauma experiencing the sides, and not understanding it lowers a hormone that takes time to rise back to normal levels. It's understandable someone would conclude something must be broken. In the absence of understanding hormones, it's a reasonable conclusion.

It's made worse by the fact the symptoms can by psychologically induced, so ED can be "permanent" as long as you believe it is.

That's why the misinformation makes me so angry. It's perpetuating symptoms and harming the guys who know they need to do something to stop hair loss, a condition already hard to deal with, by leading them down a road of using everything but the most important step. For a minute the trial lawyers and some researchers all dove into "post finasteride syndrome" looking for a payday only to fizzle outs.

You see this "social contagion" insanity extending even further, with some guys here convinced of "post minoxidil syndrome", with symptoms coincidentally just like "Post finasteride".

A completely unrelated drug that has no impact on hormones, but because it's anti- hair loss related the same baseless fear has spread about it.

 

[Eddie.]

I feel I can speak on this with authority because I *am* that guy. I was a one man anti-Finasteride campaign for years before it was a thing. I understand the trauma experiencing the sides, and not understanding it lowers a hormone that takes time to rise back to normal levels. It's understandable someone would conclude something must be broken. In the absence of understanding hormones, it's a reasonable conclusion.

It's made worse by the fact the symptoms can by psychologically induced, so ED can be "permanent" as long as you believe it is.

That's why the misinformation makes me so angry. It's perpetuating symptoms and harming the guys who know they need to do something to stop hair loss, a condition already hard to deal with, by leading them down a road of using everything but the most important step. For a minute the trial lawyers and some researchers all dove into "post finasteride syndrome" looking for a payday only to fizzle outs.

You see this "social contagion" insanity extending even further, with some guys here convinced of "post minoxidil syndrome", with symptoms coincidentally just like "Post finasteride".

A completely unrelated drug that has no impact on hormones, but because it's anti- hair loss related the same baseless fear has spread about it.

Although you already know i'm against 5AR for hair loss this thread made me think twice about what would i do if i was diagnosed with BPH and i believe i'd started either fina or duta. And shortly after i'd probably bang my head for not starting earlier and save some hair lol.

On the other hand i don't think it's fair to compare a health implication that requires medication in order to have a normal and healthy life with using that medication to prevent hair loss.

If i had to chose between a potential libido/erection issue and hair loss, me personally i still believe to this day i'd chose the latter (maybe i'll reconsider in the future, who knows) but chosing between a potential libido/erection issue and a potential prostate cancer with a resection of the prostate as a solution then it's a no brainer.

Also a honest question since you seem to have an answer for every question related to hair loss. What could finasteride or dutasteride for hair loss prevention do to a gear user who stacks test deca primo masteron and all these basic compounds in his regimen? I've heard test and nandrolone with use of finasteride is recipe for disaster, also the other compounds are already DHT derived. How 5AR help with that?