Accutane permanent cure?

[Ghoul]

No GI effects for me either.

Although liver enzymes worsen, liver harm is very rare.

That said, I avoided alcohol so I didn't put more of a load in my liver than necessary.

 

[SwolieGuacamole]

No GI effects for me either.

Although liver enzymes worsen, liver harm is very rare.

That said, I avoided alcohol so I didn't put more of a load in my liver than necessary.

Yeah I haven’t had a drink in years. I didn’t see much for bloating searching through google. I’ll just assume it’s the tren

 

[Ghoul]

Yeah I haven’t had a drink in years. I didn’t see much for bloating searching through google. I’ll just assume it’s the tren

Tren is metabolized by P450, and accutane can reduce production of that enzyme. So the accutane could be altering the potency and duration of Tren, bringing on sides as if you were on a larger dose.

 

[dinfar1337]

Two questions for you guys.

Anyone way more bloated when starting? Pulled back on bulk because I constantly look pregnant and feel like slug.

Is running tren a bad idea lol, being that both are liver toxic. Only on 100mg of tren a week, but still.

On a side note. Got on because of shoulder and back acne. Coming off a blast to a cruise last year I got wrecked and it’s really never subsided.

Within a week, a significant amount of my shoulder acne is gone. Chest started breaking out which isn’t typical but I assume it’s part of the purging process.

Thanks guys

im running 400mg tren e with 20mg accutane rn. everything worsened just by a little. only my hdl and ldl, and creatinine is out of range(which it always has been). i dont think we should be afraid of accutane since we're on tren its just gummies.

 

[BabaJagga]

@Ghoul did you heard about dish soap baths?

ive read about it while ago, logic behind it is that its safe for skin and kills 99% bacteria so naturally it would kill any source of acne.

 

[Ghoul]

@Ghoul did you heard about dish soap baths?

ive read about it while ago, logic behind it is that its safe for skin and kills 99% bacteria so naturally it would kill any source of acne.

When you meet the folks suffering from really bad acne, so desperate they're spending tens of thousands with dermatologists, if this worked they'd be doing it 3 times a day.

I'm sure it dries you out, like sun exposure does, but both only provide temporary relief and then it comes back worse because your skin barrier is damaged.

 

[BabaJagga]

When you meet the folks suffering from really bad acne, so desperate they're spending tens of thousands with dermatologists, if this worked they'd be doing it 3 times a day.

I'm sure it dries you out, like sun exposure does, but both only provide
temporary relief and then it comes back worse because your skin barrier is damaged.

i dont think its supposed to help with bac breakouts, rather help with begginings of "some" acne.

 

[Ghoul]

i dont think its supposed to help with bac breakouts, rather help with begginings of "some" acne.

One thing I discovered, only recently really, is that when your strip the oil off your skin, and I don't know how skin knows this. it comes back fast.

I'd use Neutragena body acne wash on my face in the shower, would be clean and grease free, 20 minutes later my nose was shiny and oilier than before.

When I use that "Purity" oil based soap I mentioned, my face would be very clean but not bone dry, and no oily nose for 8+ hours.

 

[Justaguy99]

Fugging pct247 not shipping to Canada.
So I'm still enjoy super moist lips and urea fresh feet..

Accutane still a ghost
Thanks Tracy hahaha...

 

[Real one]

Took one round of Accutane some years ago and it gave me scary blurry vision for several months after that. At one point I was so scared that it left me with permanent damage. Thankfully I recovered.

 

[Nested]

Accutane 100% stopped all the acne I had on my back within two months, and it hasn’t come back since. That was eight years ago. If steroid-induced acne is a problem, it’s definitely worth considering. The sides can be rough, but for me, it was a permanent fix.

 

[Ghoul]

Took one round of Accutane some years ago and it gave me scary blurry vision for several months after that. At one point I was so scared that it left me with permanent damage. Thankfully I recovered.

That's a side effect of the dry eye (which resolved for me 3 months in despite increasing the dose).

If it helps put people at ease, consider how many folks have used Accutane over the last 50 years. Search for clinical evidence of "permanent damage to vision". It's not there, but I realize even temporary sides can be scary. Even the "liver damage" that everyone's on high alert for doesn't seem to exist as a serious threat, but if someone's got previously undiagnosed severe liver disease it isn't a good idea to use it of course.

As best as I can determine, the only "permanent" negative effects with real potential (and rare even then) appear to be for those who already have dry skin ending up with even dryer skin. Since oil overproduction is almost always present with acne this is a welcome change for most(getting to "normal" skin). And of course, the truly horrific birth defects if taken while pregnant, since it completely screws up embryo development (but this risk is temporary, and no longer a risk once treatment is over).

 

[Real one]

That's a side effect of the dry eye (which resolved for me 3 months in despite increasing the dose).

If it helps put people at ease, consider how many folks have used Accutane over the last 50 years. Search for clinical evidence of "permanent damage to vision". It's not there, but I realize even temporary sides can be scary. Even the "liver damage" that everyone's on high alert for doesn't seem to exist as a serious threat, but if
someone got previously undiagnosed severe liver disease it isn't a good idea to use it of course.

As best as I can determine, the only "permanent" negative effects with real potential (and rare even then) appear to be for those who already have dry skin ending up with even dryer skin. Since oil overproduction is almost always present with acne this is a welcome change for most(getting to "normal" skin). And of course, the truly horrific birth defects if taken while pregnant, since it completely screws up embryo development (but this risk is temporary, and no longer a risk once treatment is over).

It's generally the case that for most drugs what you will find online is, unfortunately, people that didn't have a good experience with it sharing their story and how it screwed them up. This is unfortunate but I'd say the vast majority take it, it helps and then they move on with their daily lives.

Definitely always make sure to research the potential sides knowing what you could get yourself into since most docs don't have the time to do that for every patient that walks through the door, but in general there is a shit ton of fear mongering going around.

 

[SwolieGuacamole]

The fatigue is death lol.

So far biggest sides are fatigue, lack of appetite which is hurting the bulk & joint/muscle pain (making me a little nervous to lift heavy). Not overly terrible but feeling it.

 

[Ghoul]

The fatigue is death lol.

So far biggest sides are fatigue, lack of appetite which is hurting the bulk & joint/muscle pain (making me a little nervous to lift heavy). Not overly terrible but feeling it.

Nsaids will take care of the joint pain.

For fatigue Modafinil or Caffeine will help.

The longer you stay at your current dose, the more those sides should lighten up.

 

[nullandvoid]

@Ghoul I'm liking that facial cleanser, but what about the rest of your body? Do you use their shower gel?

 

[Ghoul]

@Ghoul I'm liking that facial cleanser, but what about the rest of your body? Do you use their shower gel?

Great stuff right?

I love Costco's Kirkland's body wash. As good as $30/bottle competitors I've tried (and I've tried many). Non-drying, really rich, lightly scented. Price is so low I assume it's a loss leader to get people to stay members. Everyone I know who's tried it gets hooked. Never induced a breakout:

https://www.costco.com/kirkland-signature-liquid-body-wash-natural-citrus-27-fl-oz-2-count.product.100799464.html

Twice a week (on pin days) I use a salicylic wash to exfoliate. Neutragena's body clear.

https://www.neutrogena.com/products/skincare/body-clear-oil-free-body-acne-wash-with-salicylic-acid/6811759

One other thing I do for both is use a clean terry washcloth each time, wet it, work the cleanser into the cloth, and use that to wash with. The light friction efficiently removes bacteria / dead skin cells.

(I realize some already use this method, but not everyone, and it's important to use a fresh one each time).

I sling it over my back and can reach every part with it easily.

Once I've collected a load of them I'll wash them in hot water and bleach, so they're sanitized for the next use. It's made a significant difference, even prior to accutane,

https://www.costco.com/unitex-100-cotton-towel-white-14-in-x-17-in-52-count.product.100460088.html

 

[nullandvoid]

Damn thanks for all that. I was just in Costco yesterday, too. My shower methods are pretty un-elegant. Bar of soap (Defense in this case) and a washcloth. I used to get my body waxed but got tired of the irritation as it grew back and just couldn't seem to get exfoliation right. Wonder if this would work better. With the OneBlade, though, it's good enough, so I probably will not go to the expense of another wax, anyway. I'm going to pick this stuff up and see how it goes.

 

[Ghoul]

Damn thanks for all that. I was just in Costco yesterday, too. My shower methods are pretty un-elegant. Bar of soap (Defense in this case) and a washcloth. I used to get my body waxed but got tired of the irritation as it grew back and just couldn't seem to get exfoliation right. Wonder if this would work better. With the OneBlade, though, it's good enough, so I probably will not go to the expense of another wax, anyway. I'm going to pick this stuff up and see how it goes.

I'm confident you'll find it works well. The salicylic wash is very drying so don't use it daily,

i'm sure you'll love the Kirkland body wash, It's the Rotisserie chicken of the soap aisle, lol. It changes the way your body skin feels the same way the Purity does for your face. Very clean, but not dry, yet not oily,

 

[Justaguy99]

Much like Ghoul I use Kirkland daily with one of those poofy things lmao.
It's really abrasive so I feel like that helps..
And use my cerave foaming was 2 x a week on arms/back.

When I clean my face I do neck and chest as well. Also has salicylic acid.
And I apply my tretinoin gel daily to face, 2x a week to chest and neck.

Basically no acne now except when I cycle on or off.