Turdburgalar
New Member
Ok then go keep using UGL gear and I’ll keep using pharma gear sorry man I like nice shit if u don’t that’s ur thing. There is no argument here pharma gear is better. Period.
MESO-Rx
Anabolic Steroids
Activis/Watson-Test Cypionate 200mg- HPLC- Jano
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Well you’re objectively wrong. There’s no debate here. Period. This is what happens when people aren’t educated enough form an opinion.
MisterSuperGod
Well-known Member
It's better because...? You never actually got around to explaining that without relying on feelz reports and anecdotes.
Here's one for you. My car is faster than yours because it's black. i have no proof, but it just is, period.
Good luck with your placebo feelz and gainz, junior.
janoshik
Subscriber
Honestly, I know very little about all practicalities involved so I dare not make a judgement. According to my educated guess even random test e variants would look like test e on eclia blood tests and wouldn't register on lcmsms bloods - which might be an explanation for variance.
But even then, bloods are not quite reliable unless done in controlled conditions over and over again, so consider the above more of an thought exercise.
Turdburgalar
New Member
Lol wait let me get this right? Ur trying to say pharma grade gear isn’t better then ugl? Not educated enough? I’ve used pharma sust, deca, primo, anadrol, gh, nolva, test e, test c. And they were all better then any UGL I’ve ever used which is many.. so what more education do I need on the subject then personal experience? Oh wait and not to mention tons of other bodybuilders and pro bodybuilders… oh wait we’re not educated on the subject even tho we’ve all been juicing for 10 years… lol wtf Man U make no sense.. educated on the subject of good gear? Ok buddy. Lol to all of u who think pharma gear isn’t the best out there that’s laughable
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Jesus Christ how many different ways does the same thing have to be explained. I had no difference while using my current source or a few others as pharma. The only difference was price and pip from pharma. Being pharma doesn’t magically change pharmacology
Turdburgalar
New Member
Ok it’s called quality. U want to drink fleishmans vodka or grey goose. Take ur pick. There’s impurities with UGL gear they may have the right amount of drug in there but there’s impurities that u don’t see on that test bro.
Nice edit and still meaningless. Lol again you are the example of people who are too stupid to realize they’re wrong. Millions of bodybuilders who are educated in what?
there are millions of people who believe that they talk to an invisible sky person who answers prayers belief and opinion isn’t fact, it isn’t evidence and it isn’t education.
I know people who use lots of drugs but it doesn’t make them an expert in how they’re made or function in the body
Not all of them. Now you’re reaching.
MisterSuperGod
Well-known Member
Just nod your head and walk away. He's got an endless supply of irrefutable proof based on feelz and...
I think maybe what you are missing here is meso doesn't really like to rely on feels over facts. Nobody is saying ug gear is better than pharma, but pharma grade gear isn't necessarily better than ug either.
All you have presented is anecdotal evidence that pharm test is better and less is supposedly needed. Fluctuations in blood levels are possible and do indeed happen, hence the need to run blood tests regularly. Just because you feel a certain way doesn't mean it was because the test was more pure or some shit or your levels were even higher.
Running pharm gear gives a certain piece of mind that you don't necessarily get when you buy from the black market.
Maybe the pharm gear you were running was over dosed and over filled like the post mentioned above this.
Carrier oils obviously play a role. The fact that pharma uses castor oil for test undecanoate helps to slow the release vs brewing it in gso or mct.
I tend to agree that placebo effect is most likely the biggest difference.
Connor 25257
Member
Sorry not sorry but UG gear doesn’t match up to pharma at all. Not even in the slightest. Every time I’ve used underground Nandrolone, it’s been dog shit. Used Pharma grade Deca and the difference was pretty dramatic
But what about the dark web? Or what about the raw shortage? Connor has spoken with all his infinite wisdom, conversation over now.
Can’t wait to discover what stupid fucking idea you latch onto next. Seriously have you ever been right about anything
Connor 25257
Member
Sir, I think your oblivious to the fact that sources have said there is no Anavar right now. Most DHT steroids, along with Dbol and Deca have taken a huge plunge. Quite sad frankly. So yes, I actually have been correct. You can’t compare ugl and pharma. Ugl isn’t shit compared to pharma
Number 1) with all due respect I believe truly you are mentally handicapped.
number 2) Did you just dismiss everything that was previously said?
Connor 25257
Member
Ugl is shit compared to pharma**** my mistake. Also, it’s coming from the sources now. Not just my “speculation “
MisterSuperGod
Well-known Member
janoshik
Subscriber
Why engage him at all, though?
AlwaysHungry
Well-known Member
Guys have to understand something.
Pfizer,AstraZeneca,Norma,Organon.
These are multi-billion dollar companies, as you know they rule the world.
Now I'm not delusional of course testosterone is testosterone.
But guys let's see something.
Why is it work better ?
1st and foremost it always have the amount of testosterone that says on the label.
Pfizer and other big pharmas , they have patent their drugs. Do you know this ?
They have special formulas that they keep it secret, for better absorption more potency etc.
I'll tell you my experience.
Let's take sidenafil.
All generics in our pharmacies cost the same. But Viagra have like 30% more of the price.
Why? All generics contains only sidenafil. That's why they have the same price.
Viagra on the other hand costs more because it has a patent ! We don't know the patent. BUT FDA know the patent so that's why they price it more.
Because the cost of production is more vs generics.
Now you can't see the patent because if you could there wouldn't be a patent.
Just like coca cola has a secret recipe ??
It's exactly the same with big brand name drugs.
They cost more because they work better because they have patent on them.
It really that simple. You boys here come and tell what y want. I know this from trusted pharmacists and doctors.
If you think Pfizer testo contains only testo you're delusional. If it contains only testo it would work as good as ugl.
I just changed from ugl to pharma testo and again for one more time the difference in potency is huge !!!
One day I was at the pharmacy and ask for zymoplex ! The pharmacist told me "why ?? Why y want to take zymoplex ? It may don't work take Nolvadex it works on 100% of patients whether zymoplex works on 80%"
These guys educate themselves for a lot of years on drugs. They also communicate with pharma companies and its their work to know their proffesions really good to help the patients the best way they can.
So if the pharmacist or the doctor tell me that Norma testo is better than ugl then for fuck sake I trust him , I've seen on my self on my body.
My personal pharmacist and doctor had been very angry with me when I get there with a lump from ugl testo.
If you care about your health your 1st choice should always be pharma grade. Your second would be top tier ugl for sterility issues.
