Hi, I know this thread is old, but I really need a good opinion, so I will risk it, and I'm sorry if there is already another
thread or something and I am hijacking an old one.
I have been feeling tired, with constant headaches above the eyes (it hurts when I look up too), dry mouth, dry eyes, dry skin, I
think hair loss started somewhere in that time too. It started six years ago, and the headaches and tiredeness have been getting
slowly but steadily worse. I also have a lot of trouble concentrating, and my memory.. well I am basically a fish. Finally, it seems the problem is adrenal fatigue, but it seems no doctor ever heard about it in this
country. Anyway, I don't want to rant, so I'll just get on with it. Finally, an endo made some bloodwork and found something, put
me in the hospital in a week for more tests. After that, she said "well, we don't know why, but it seems you are making few
cortisol. It doesn't caus your simptoms, but we will give it a shot anyway." She then prescribed 5mg hydrocortisone, at wake up.
Also, my pituitary MRI came clean.
After reading a lot, I upped the dosage to 20mg, progressively, and although I fell slightly better, it's not really that much. I
don't dare upping it more without more data, and it seems I can't find an up to date doctor in this country, so I have to resort to
the internet. I'll post all bloodwork with the date it was made. Almostg all of them were made between 8 and nine AM, except the
first, that I think was made at 12 o'clock.
Also, since it is portuguese, I'll try to translate it, but please ask if something feels worng.
Date: 02-03-2010 (Test to see if I had something, before they put me in the hospital)
FSH 2.3 (mUl/mL) < 15
LH 1.8 (mUl/mL) < 9.0
PROLACTINE 5.9 (ng/ml) < 18
TOTAL TEST. 2.0 (ng/ml) 2.7 - 11.0
ANDROSTENEDONE 1.5 (ng/ml) 0.6 - 3.7
TSH - 3rd GEN. 2.7 (uUl/mL) 0.4 - 4.0
FREE T3 4.1 (pg/mL) 1.8 - 4.2
FREE T4 1.1 (ng/dL) 0.8 - 1.9
ACTH 8.8 (pg/ml) 9 - 52
CORTISOL 2.1 (ug/dl) 5 - 25
IGF1 244 (ng/ml) 116 - 358
Next, the ones made during the week I spent at the hospital
Date: 06-04-2010
BIOCHEMISTRY (Blood)
Glucose 85 (mg/dL) 60 - 109
BUN 12.5 (mg/dL) 7.9 - 20.9
Creatinine(IDMS) 0.83 (mg/dL) 0.72 - 1.18
Urate 5.9 (mg/dL) 3.5 - 7.2
Total proteines 6.2 (g/dL) 6.6 - 8.3
Albumine 4.2 (g/dL) 3.5 - 5.2
Calcium 9.2 (mg/dL) 8.8 - 10.6
Sodium 138 (mmol/L) 136 - 156
Potassium 3.8 (mmol/L) 3.5 - 5.1
Chlorine 105 (mmol/L) 101 - 109
Osmolality 275 (mOSM/Kg) 260 - 302
ALT (GPT) 25 (U/l) < 45
Alkaline Phosph. 64 (U/l) 30 - 120
Gama GT 15 (U/l) < 55
Total Bilirubin 0.3 (mg/dL) 0.3 - 1.2
Tot. Cholesterol 169 (mg/dL) <= 190
Cholesterol HDL 33 (mg/dL) < 40
Atherogenic Ind. 5.1 <= 5.0
Cholesterol LDL 115 (mg/dL) < 115
Triglycerides 206 (mg/dL) < 200
HORMONOLOGY (??)
FSH 1.5 (mUl/mL) < 15
FSH 20 min LH/RH 3.4 (mUl/mL)
FSH 60 min LH/RH 3.6 (mUl/mL)
LH 1.9 (mUl/mL) <9.0
LH 20 min LH/RH 21 (mUl/mL)
LH 60 min LH/RH 18 (mUl/mL)
TOTAL TEST. 3.2 (ng/ml) 2.7 - 11.0
Paratormone 72 (pg/ml) 9 - 72
BIOCHEMISTRY (Urine)
Urine Summary (Type II Urine)
Color Yellow
Appearence Ligh
Glucose 0.0 (mg/dL) 0.0 - 30.0
Bilirubin 0.0 (mg/dL)
Acetone 0.0 (mg/dL)
Density 1.015 1.010 - 1.030
Hemoglobin 0.00 (mg/dL)
pH 5.5 5.0 - 8.0
Proteins 5.0 (mg/dL) 0.0 - 20.0
Urobilinogen 9.2 (mg/dL) 0.0 - 0.2
Nitrites NEG
Leucocytes NEG
Urinary Sediment (Flow Cytometry)
Cilinders (??) 0.2 (/µL) 0.0 - 1.2
Leucocytes 0.7 (/µL) 0.0 - 15.0
Peeling Cells(?) 0.2 (/µL) 0.0 - 4.0
Erythrocytes 1.3 (/µL) 1.0 - 24.0
Cristals 0.0 (/µL) 0.0 - 27.0
Path. Cilinders 0.2 (/µL) 0.0 - 0.2
Celular Biology
everything fine except this:
Platelets 137 (10^3/µL) 150 - 400
Date: 07-04-2010
HORMONOLOGY (??)
PROLACTINE 12 (ng/ml) < 18.0
TSH - 3rd GEN. 2.0 (uUl/mL) 0.4 - 4.0
TSH3 20min P.TRH 9.4 (uUl/mL)
TSH3 60min P.TRH 6.1 (uUl/mL)
FREE T3 3.9 (pg/mL) 1.8 - 4.2
FREE T4 1.1 (ng/dL) 0.8 - 1.9
HGH 0.1 (µg/L) < 1
IGF1 279 (ng/ml) 116 - 358
Date: 08-04-2010
ACTH 15min 25 (pg/ml)
ACTH 22 (pg/ml) 9 - 52
ACTH 15min CRH 28 (pg/ml)
ACTH 30min CRH 31 (pg/ml)
ACTH 45min CRH 26 (pg/ml)
ACTH 60min CRH 23 (pg/ml)
ACTH 90min CRH 16 (pg/ml)
ACTH 120min CRH 18 (pg/ml)
CORTISOL 15min 11 (ug/dl)
CORTISOL 12 (ug/dl) 5 - 25
CORTISL 15m CRH 8.9 (ug/dl)
CORTISL 30m CRH 15 (ug/dl)
CORTISL 45m CRH 14 (ug/dl)
CORTISL 60m CRH 11 (ug/dl)
CORTISL 90m CRH 6.6 (ug/dl)
CORTISL 120m CRH 6.8 (ug/dl)
(SKIPPING AUTO-IMMUNE STUFF, IT'S ALL NEGATIVE)
Protein Electroforese (??)
Total proteins 5.2 (g/dl)
A/G 2.85
Albumin (74.0%, 3.85 g/dl) 3.2 - 5.0
Alpha 1 (1.1% , 0.06 g/dl) 0.1 - 0.4
Alpha 2 (7.7% , 0.40 g/dl) 0.6 - 1.0
Beta (10.4%, 0.54 g/dl) 0.6 - 1.3
Gamma (6.8% , 0.35 g/dl) 0.7 - 1.5
(I put them here because they are all low, except for Albumin)
Date: 26-06-2010 - I was already on a 20mg hydrocortisone for about a week
HEMATOLOGY
Glycated Hemogl. 5.4 (%) 4.0 - 6.0
CLINIC CHEMISTRY
Blood Sugar 5.1 (mmol/L) 3.9 - 6.1
Total Calcium 2.10 (mmol/L) 2.12 - 2.52
Sodium 140 (mmol/L) 136 - 145
Potassium 3.9 (mmol/L) 3.5 - 5.1
Chlorines 103 (mmol/L) 98 - 110
Magnesium 1.04 (mmol/L) 0.74 - 0.99
Ferro Serico (Can't Translate, Ferro = Iron) 67 (µg/dL) 65 - 170
Iron Fixation Capacity (??) 292 (µg/dL) 250 -450
Ferritin 78 (µg/L) 26 - 388
Folic Acid 4.3 (ng/mL) 3.1 - 17.5
B12 Vitamin 583 (pg/mL) 254 - 1320
THYROID STUFF
TSH 2.12 (mUI/L) 0.36 - 3.74
ENDOCRINOLOGY
FSH 2.4 (mUI/mL) 0.7 - 11.1
LH 2.0 (mUI/mL) 0.8 - 7.6
PROLACTINE 6.2 (ng/mL) 2.5 - 17.0
17Beta Estradiol 40 (pg/mL) 0 - 52
TOTAL TEST. 4.64 (ng/mL) 2.45 - 16.00 (From 20 to 49 years old)
S.Dehidroepiandrosterone 153 (µg/dL) 80 - 560
ALDOSTERONE 4.5 (ng/dL) 1.0 - 16.0 (lying down)
Morning ACTH 9.78 (pg/mL) 0.0 - 46.0
Morning Cortisol 4.82 (µg/dL) 4.30 - 22.40
(Note, there was a history made in 09-10-2009 that reported 5.56 morning ACTH and 1.94 morning cortisol)
So, do I need aldosterone? Do i need testosterone? Should I increase my cortisol dosage? If it's primary, shouldn't the ACTH Stim test be better? Thank you.
thread or something and I am hijacking an old one.
I have been feeling tired, with constant headaches above the eyes (it hurts when I look up too), dry mouth, dry eyes, dry skin, I
think hair loss started somewhere in that time too. It started six years ago, and the headaches and tiredeness have been getting
slowly but steadily worse. I also have a lot of trouble concentrating, and my memory.. well I am basically a fish. Finally, it seems the problem is adrenal fatigue, but it seems no doctor ever heard about it in this
country. Anyway, I don't want to rant, so I'll just get on with it. Finally, an endo made some bloodwork and found something, put
me in the hospital in a week for more tests. After that, she said "well, we don't know why, but it seems you are making few
cortisol. It doesn't caus your simptoms, but we will give it a shot anyway." She then prescribed 5mg hydrocortisone, at wake up.
Also, my pituitary MRI came clean.
After reading a lot, I upped the dosage to 20mg, progressively, and although I fell slightly better, it's not really that much. I
don't dare upping it more without more data, and it seems I can't find an up to date doctor in this country, so I have to resort to
the internet. I'll post all bloodwork with the date it was made. Almostg all of them were made between 8 and nine AM, except the
first, that I think was made at 12 o'clock.
Also, since it is portuguese, I'll try to translate it, but please ask if something feels worng.
Date: 02-03-2010 (Test to see if I had something, before they put me in the hospital)
FSH 2.3 (mUl/mL) < 15
LH 1.8 (mUl/mL) < 9.0
PROLACTINE 5.9 (ng/ml) < 18
TOTAL TEST. 2.0 (ng/ml) 2.7 - 11.0
ANDROSTENEDONE 1.5 (ng/ml) 0.6 - 3.7
TSH - 3rd GEN. 2.7 (uUl/mL) 0.4 - 4.0
FREE T3 4.1 (pg/mL) 1.8 - 4.2
FREE T4 1.1 (ng/dL) 0.8 - 1.9
ACTH 8.8 (pg/ml) 9 - 52
CORTISOL 2.1 (ug/dl) 5 - 25
IGF1 244 (ng/ml) 116 - 358
Next, the ones made during the week I spent at the hospital
Date: 06-04-2010
BIOCHEMISTRY (Blood)
Glucose 85 (mg/dL) 60 - 109
BUN 12.5 (mg/dL) 7.9 - 20.9
Creatinine(IDMS) 0.83 (mg/dL) 0.72 - 1.18
Urate 5.9 (mg/dL) 3.5 - 7.2
Total proteines 6.2 (g/dL) 6.6 - 8.3
Albumine 4.2 (g/dL) 3.5 - 5.2
Calcium 9.2 (mg/dL) 8.8 - 10.6
Sodium 138 (mmol/L) 136 - 156
Potassium 3.8 (mmol/L) 3.5 - 5.1
Chlorine 105 (mmol/L) 101 - 109
Osmolality 275 (mOSM/Kg) 260 - 302
ALT (GPT) 25 (U/l) < 45
Alkaline Phosph. 64 (U/l) 30 - 120
Gama GT 15 (U/l) < 55
Total Bilirubin 0.3 (mg/dL) 0.3 - 1.2
Tot. Cholesterol 169 (mg/dL) <= 190
Cholesterol HDL 33 (mg/dL) < 40
Atherogenic Ind. 5.1 <= 5.0
Cholesterol LDL 115 (mg/dL) < 115
Triglycerides 206 (mg/dL) < 200
HORMONOLOGY (??)
FSH 1.5 (mUl/mL) < 15
FSH 20 min LH/RH 3.4 (mUl/mL)
FSH 60 min LH/RH 3.6 (mUl/mL)
LH 1.9 (mUl/mL) <9.0
LH 20 min LH/RH 21 (mUl/mL)
LH 60 min LH/RH 18 (mUl/mL)
TOTAL TEST. 3.2 (ng/ml) 2.7 - 11.0
Paratormone 72 (pg/ml) 9 - 72
BIOCHEMISTRY (Urine)
Urine Summary (Type II Urine)
Color Yellow
Appearence Ligh
Glucose 0.0 (mg/dL) 0.0 - 30.0
Bilirubin 0.0 (mg/dL)
Acetone 0.0 (mg/dL)
Density 1.015 1.010 - 1.030
Hemoglobin 0.00 (mg/dL)
pH 5.5 5.0 - 8.0
Proteins 5.0 (mg/dL) 0.0 - 20.0
Urobilinogen 9.2 (mg/dL) 0.0 - 0.2
Nitrites NEG
Leucocytes NEG
Urinary Sediment (Flow Cytometry)
Cilinders (??) 0.2 (/µL) 0.0 - 1.2
Leucocytes 0.7 (/µL) 0.0 - 15.0
Peeling Cells(?) 0.2 (/µL) 0.0 - 4.0
Erythrocytes 1.3 (/µL) 1.0 - 24.0
Cristals 0.0 (/µL) 0.0 - 27.0
Path. Cilinders 0.2 (/µL) 0.0 - 0.2
Celular Biology
everything fine except this:
Platelets 137 (10^3/µL) 150 - 400
Date: 07-04-2010
HORMONOLOGY (??)
PROLACTINE 12 (ng/ml) < 18.0
TSH - 3rd GEN. 2.0 (uUl/mL) 0.4 - 4.0
TSH3 20min P.TRH 9.4 (uUl/mL)
TSH3 60min P.TRH 6.1 (uUl/mL)
FREE T3 3.9 (pg/mL) 1.8 - 4.2
FREE T4 1.1 (ng/dL) 0.8 - 1.9
HGH 0.1 (µg/L) < 1
IGF1 279 (ng/ml) 116 - 358
Date: 08-04-2010
ACTH 15min 25 (pg/ml)
ACTH 22 (pg/ml) 9 - 52
ACTH 15min CRH 28 (pg/ml)
ACTH 30min CRH 31 (pg/ml)
ACTH 45min CRH 26 (pg/ml)
ACTH 60min CRH 23 (pg/ml)
ACTH 90min CRH 16 (pg/ml)
ACTH 120min CRH 18 (pg/ml)
CORTISOL 15min 11 (ug/dl)
CORTISOL 12 (ug/dl) 5 - 25
CORTISL 15m CRH 8.9 (ug/dl)
CORTISL 30m CRH 15 (ug/dl)
CORTISL 45m CRH 14 (ug/dl)
CORTISL 60m CRH 11 (ug/dl)
CORTISL 90m CRH 6.6 (ug/dl)
CORTISL 120m CRH 6.8 (ug/dl)
(SKIPPING AUTO-IMMUNE STUFF, IT'S ALL NEGATIVE)
Protein Electroforese (??)
Total proteins 5.2 (g/dl)
A/G 2.85
Albumin (74.0%, 3.85 g/dl) 3.2 - 5.0
Alpha 1 (1.1% , 0.06 g/dl) 0.1 - 0.4
Alpha 2 (7.7% , 0.40 g/dl) 0.6 - 1.0
Beta (10.4%, 0.54 g/dl) 0.6 - 1.3
Gamma (6.8% , 0.35 g/dl) 0.7 - 1.5
(I put them here because they are all low, except for Albumin)
Date: 26-06-2010 - I was already on a 20mg hydrocortisone for about a week
HEMATOLOGY
Glycated Hemogl. 5.4 (%) 4.0 - 6.0
CLINIC CHEMISTRY
Blood Sugar 5.1 (mmol/L) 3.9 - 6.1
Total Calcium 2.10 (mmol/L) 2.12 - 2.52
Sodium 140 (mmol/L) 136 - 145
Potassium 3.9 (mmol/L) 3.5 - 5.1
Chlorines 103 (mmol/L) 98 - 110
Magnesium 1.04 (mmol/L) 0.74 - 0.99
Ferro Serico (Can't Translate, Ferro = Iron) 67 (µg/dL) 65 - 170
Iron Fixation Capacity (??) 292 (µg/dL) 250 -450
Ferritin 78 (µg/L) 26 - 388
Folic Acid 4.3 (ng/mL) 3.1 - 17.5
B12 Vitamin 583 (pg/mL) 254 - 1320
THYROID STUFF
TSH 2.12 (mUI/L) 0.36 - 3.74
ENDOCRINOLOGY
FSH 2.4 (mUI/mL) 0.7 - 11.1
LH 2.0 (mUI/mL) 0.8 - 7.6
PROLACTINE 6.2 (ng/mL) 2.5 - 17.0
17Beta Estradiol 40 (pg/mL) 0 - 52
TOTAL TEST. 4.64 (ng/mL) 2.45 - 16.00 (From 20 to 49 years old)
S.Dehidroepiandrosterone 153 (µg/dL) 80 - 560
ALDOSTERONE 4.5 (ng/dL) 1.0 - 16.0 (lying down)
Morning ACTH 9.78 (pg/mL) 0.0 - 46.0
Morning Cortisol 4.82 (µg/dL) 4.30 - 22.40
(Note, there was a history made in 09-10-2009 that reported 5.56 morning ACTH and 1.94 morning cortisol)
So, do I need aldosterone? Do i need testosterone? Should I increase my cortisol dosage? If it's primary, shouldn't the ACTH Stim test be better? Thank you.