Aggressive Bulking Cycle Help?

[MuscleFreakXL]

Hey First time posting but been long time lurker.

I have done a number of cycles and made some sizeable gains.

Started at 210lbs natural lean and reached a lean 245lbs on my last cycle. Really like to get to 260lbs this cycle and looking to go pretty aggressive.

Currently I am 36yo, 6ft and about 280lbs, have competed for many years. Body fat on the heavier side but kinda in same place I have started all cycles. Want this to a solid bulk and think this will do it. In past haven't had any real issues with estrogen but have AI on hand if need be. Also have PCT Set

First time really using the Peptides, only have used IGF – 1 LR3 and GH in last cycle and loved it!

All the peptides were recommend and think they will be a great addition to this cycle.

Peptides:Run all way through cycle unless otherwise noted

PEG MGF – Taken on off days at 250mcg per day

Mod GRF 1-29 – Taken 3x a day (Once upon waking, 30 – 45 mins before workout, before bed) 100mcg per shot

Ipamorelin – Taken 3x a day (Once upon waking, 30 – 45 mins before workout, before bed) 100mcg per shot

IGF – 1 LR3 – Taken on training days after training - 20mcg bi laterally or on off day 40mcg SQ in morning (cycling this 4 weeks on/ 4 weeks off)

GH – 4ius in Morning upon waking and 4ius before bed (15 mins after the Mod GRF/Ipamorelin shot)


Already do have the oils and pills I can get more but like to use what I have if possible.

Cycle:

Dbol: Week 1 – 4 50mg/day

Prop: Week 1 – 16 - 100/mg (Mon, Wed, Fri)

Sust: Week 1 – 4 - 250/mg (Mon & Fri) Week 5 – 12 - 250/mg (Mon, Wed, Fri) Week 13 – 16- 250/mg (Mon & Fri)

Deca: Week 1 – 12 - 300/mg (Mon, Wed, Fri)

EQ: Week 13 – 16 - 250/mg (Mon, Wed, Fri)

 

[Sampei]

Hey First time posting but been long time lurker.

I have done a number of cycles and made some sizeable gains.

Started at 210lbs natural lean and reached a lean 245lbs on my last cycle. Really like to get to 260lbs this cycle and looking to go pretty aggressive.

Currently I am 36yo, 6ft and about 280lbs, have competed for many years. Body fat on the heavier side but kinda in same place I have started all cycles. Want this to a solid bulk and think this will do it. In past haven't had any real issues with estrogen but have AI on hand if need be. Also have PCT Set

First time really using the Peptides, only have used IGF – 1 LR3 and GH in last cycle and loved it!

All the peptides were recommend and think they will be a great addition to this cycle.

Peptides:Run all way through cycle unless otherwise noted

PEG MGF – Taken on off days at 250mcg per day

Mod GRF 1-29 – Taken 3x a day (Once upon waking, 30 – 45 mins before workout, before bed) 100mcg per shot

Ipamorelin – Taken 3x a day (Once upon waking, 30 – 45 mins before workout, before bed) 100mcg per shot

IGF – 1 LR3 – Taken on training days after training - 20mcg bi laterally or on off day 40mcg SQ in morning (cycling this 4 weeks on/ 4 weeks off)

GH – 4ius in Morning upon waking and 4ius before bed (15 mins after the Mod GRF/Ipamorelin shot)


Already do have the oils and pills I can get more but like to use what I have if possible.

Cycle:

Dbol: Week 1 – 4 50mg/day

Prop: Week 1 – 16 - 100/mg (Mon, Wed, Fri)

Sust: Week 1 – 4 - 250/mg (Mon & Fri) Week 5 – 12 - 250/mg (Mon, Wed, Fri) Week 13 – 16- 250/mg (Mon & Fri)

Deca: Week 1 – 12 - 300/mg (Mon, Wed, Fri)

EQ: Week 13 – 16 - 250/mg (Mon, Wed, Fri)

Dat mix of test p and sus Made me lol, but not as much as EQ for only 4 weeks

This cycle is a bit all over the place...

Leave the prop out. Pin the sustanon EOD or 3 Times a week at least and use deca and EQ 2x a week 400mg deca and 400-600mg EQ. Have fub with the pinning

 

[Wreck it Ralph]

Sounds like a lot of pinning. Are you going to have time to workout?

 

[jJjburton]

EQ for 3 weeks wtf?

 

[MuscleFreakXL]

Dat mix of test p and sus Made me lol, but not as much as EQ for only 4 weeks

This cycle is a bit all over the place...

Leave the prop out. Pin the sustanon EOD or 3 Times a week at least and use deca and EQ 2x a week 400mg deca and 400-600mg EQ. Have fub with the pinning

The prop extra is because I have it.. I know sust has but have used sust alone before and was trying to increase my test dosage and have quite a bit of prop so rather spread it in through out the cycle to increase my test levels.

The Eq was a mistake that is suppose to be to 20 weeks so that is 8 weeks and think bare minimum that it needs, with the prop going to 20 weeks as well. I know some would rather longer but after running the Deca the for 12 and EQ for 8 think would be good.

 

[achilles87]

I think you need to do some more research man, just my opinion tho.

It's hard for us to give you advice when your not 100% sure about the aas you are going to be running. If you ran prop for 20 weeks you are going to get so tired of it promise. Eq needs to be ran longer than 8 weeks, in my opinion longer than 12 weeks. Your cycle is way to complicated and you are going to get tired of injecting all that and the way you are going to run it your not going to get much from it.

 

[MuscleFreakXL]

I think you need to do some more research man, just my opinion tho.

It's hard for us to give you advice when your not 100% sure about the aas you are going to be running. If you ran prop for 20 weeks you are going to get so tired of it promise. Eq needs to be ran longer than 8 weeks, in my opinion longer than 12 weeks. Your cycle is way to complicated and you are going to get tired of injecting all that and the way you are going to run it your not going to get much from it.

I have researched and done 8 weeks of Eq before. Not everyone needs to run it that long. I have done 8 and 12 before of it so why putting it in at end for last 8.

For the pinning yeah I have its annoying but I have a ton and use to it so that's not an issue.

Not sure why u think I an not sure about my aas?

 

[achilles87]

I have researched and done 8 weeks of Eq before. Not everyone needs to run it that long. I have done 8 and 12 before of it so why putting it in at end for last 8.

For the pinning yeah I have its annoying but I have a ton and use to it so that's not an issue.

Not sure why u think I an not sure about my aas?

Because it shows, again don't come here ask for help then blow it all off. You already knew what you wanted to do, no one here agrees with you and you just go back to what you want to run and how you want to run it.

Again no point in asking for help when you can't take it, good luck on that cycle tho.

 

[MuscleFreakXL]

Because it shows, again don't come here ask for help then blow it all off. You already knew what you wanted to do, no one here agrees with you and you just go back to what you want to run and how you want to run it.

Again no point in asking for help when you can't take it, good luck on that cycle tho.

You gave one point about Eq.. Just because you run Eq for 12 weeks doesn't mean every has too... I can understand if I had never run it that is fair point.

As the thread is called aggressive bulk help I would expect it to be more complicated. I have done simple and wanted to try something more complicated. That is why I posting I'm here as this is more aggressive then some of my last.

Don't get flip because I don't really wish to run one thing as long as you would.

 

[achilles87]

Oh I run eq longer than 12 weeks because that's how it's supposed to be ran. I don't really understand your text, but I didn't get flip about anything lol. I don't really care how you run it, I just know how eq works. I understand the ester of the compound and know the way it should be ran. Like I said good luck on your cycle, that means I gave advice you don't need it so I'm done here.

 

[bornSkinny]

That sounds pretty serious as far as the volume of injections with all the pep use

Like a min of 3 a day, sometimes more??

Do you really think that is worth all the extra effort? I've heard mixed opinions on pep tides, not that they don't work just that the benefit is minimal compared to gear

 

[Wunderpus]

Hey First time posting but been long time lurker.

I have done a number of cycles and made some sizeable gains.

Started at 210lbs natural lean and reached a lean 245lbs on my last cycle. Really like to get to 260lbs this cycle and looking to go pretty aggressive.

Currently I am 36yo, 6ft and about 280lbs, have competed for many years. Body fat on the heavier side but kinda in same place I have started all cycles. Want this to a solid bulk and think this will do it. In past haven't had any real issues with estrogen but have AI on hand if need be. Also have PCT Set

First time really using the Peptides, only have used IGF – 1 LR3 and GH in last cycle and loved it!

All the peptides were recommend and think they will be a great addition to this cycle.

Peptides:Run all way through cycle unless otherwise noted

PEG MGF – Taken on off days at 250mcg per day

Mod GRF 1-29 – Taken 3x a day (Once upon waking, 30 – 45 mins before workout, before bed) 100mcg per shot

Ipamorelin – Taken 3x a day (Once upon waking, 30 – 45 mins before workout, before bed) 100mcg per shot

IGF – 1 LR3 – Taken on training days after training - 20mcg bi laterally or on off day 40mcg SQ in morning (cycling this 4 weeks on/ 4 weeks off)

GH – 4ius in Morning upon waking and 4ius before bed (15 mins after the Mod GRF/Ipamorelin shot)


Already do have the oils and pills I can get more but like to use what I have if possible.

Cycle:

Dbol: Week 1 – 4 50mg/day

Prop: Week 1 – 16 - 100/mg (Mon, Wed, Fri)

Sust: Week 1 – 4 - 250/mg (Mon & Fri) Week 5 – 12 - 250/mg (Mon, Wed, Fri) Week 13 – 16- 250/mg (Mon & Fri)

Deca: Week 1 – 12 - 300/mg (Mon, Wed, Fri)

EQ: Week 13 – 16 - 250/mg (Mon, Wed, Fri)

I'm confused... You're currently 280 lbs and somewhat soft, and wish to "bulk" to 260 lbs? What am I missing?

 

[MuscleFreakXL]

Oh I run eq longer than 12 weeks because that's how it's supposed to be ran. I don't really understand your text, but I didn't get flip about anything lol. I don't really care how you run it, I just know how eq works. I understand the ester of the compound and know the way it should be ran. Like I said good luck on your cycle, that means I gave advice you don't need it so I'm done here.

You can I agree not saying you can but I saying look at minimum that people run it. Seen and have done 8 weeks as well. I done 20 before on it.

Want more aggressive cycle help but want to keep it at 20 weeks.

 

[MuscleFreakXL]

I'm confused... You're currently 280 lbs and somewhat soft, and wish to "bulk" to 260 lbs? What am I missing?

Yeah leaned out would be about 235

 

[achilles87]

You can I agree not saying you can but I saying look at minimum that people run it. Seen and have done 8 weeks as well. I done 20 before on it.

Want more aggressive cycle help but want to keep it at 20 weeks.

Oh I have seen and anyone saying they are going to run it 8 weeks gets told it's pointless, I'm not new to this lol. You seem like you got it figured out so run it.

 

[Wunderpus]

You can I agree not saying you can but I saying look at minimum that people run it. Seen and have done 8 weeks as well. I done 20 before on it.

Want more aggressive cycle help but want to keep it at 20 weeks.

When you are trying to talk shit (when you're here asking for advice by the way), please at least word it in a way we can decipher... What the fuck are you trying to say???

 

[Wunderpus]

Yeah leaned out would be about 235

I'm so confused... I really don't think you should be "bulking" at 280lbs if you're already soft. Why add more soft weight?? You should be CUTTING.

Also, your deca to test ratio seems out of whack. When bulking, just run high test.

 

[MuscleFreakXL]

I'm so confused... I really don't think you should be "bulking" at 280lbs if you're already soft. Why add more soft weight?? You should be CUTTING.

Also, your deca to test ratio seems out of whack. When bulking, just run high test.

No I am going to bulk not looking to cut until next year late if that. I usually start bulks when I am carrying a big of higher fat i will lean out a tad as i grow.

The test is about 1100 and the deca will be about 900. I can bring the deca down.

 

[MuscleFreakXL]

That sounds pretty serious as far as the volume of injections with all the pep use

Like a min of 3 a day, sometimes more??

Do you really think that is worth all the extra effort? I've heard mixed opinions on pep tides, not that they don't work just that the benefit is minimal compared to gear

I have really liked my peps I have used before. Pinning has not been an issue and def looking to be more aggressive with this as i know i have a great source for them right now.

 

[Wunderpus]

No I am going to bulk not looking to cut until next year late if that. I usually start bulks when I am carrying a big of higher fat i will lean out a tad as i grow.

The test is about 1100 and the deca will be about 900. I can bring the deca down.

"Prop: Week 1 – 16 - 100/mg (Mon, Wed, Fri)

Sust: Week 1 – 4 - 250/mg (Mon & Fri) Week 5 – 12 - 250/mg (Mon, Wed, Fri) Week 13 – 16- 250/mg (Mon & Fri)"

Only for the last 7 weeks. Your cycle doesn't make sense to me, or really anyone else, it seems.

Keep your test level constant! There's no reason to bump up SUSTANON of all tests at the end, why bump up some of the longest esters right before the end of the cycle? Also, why EQ for such a short period of time? Do you REALLY know what you're doing, or do you just believe that because you read a few articles on Evo and "lurked" here?

You want my advice? Here it is-

Dbol first 4 weeks
Sustanon 1G a week THE WHOLE CYCLE
EQ for the whole 16 weeks
Deca would be fine for 12 weeks, but I think it's overcomplicating this and I'd remove it
Your GH protocol is good.
As far as your peptides, IDK much about them.