Aggressive Bulking Cycle Help?

[Wunderpus]

I have really liked my peps I have used before. Pinning has not been an issue and def looking to be more aggressive with this as i know i have a great source for them right now.

Everyone does, until they find out they don't.

 

[ironwill1951]

in my opinion peptides don't give you much and running all that gear you wont notice anything they are doing

 

[MuscleFreakXL]

"Prop: Week 1 – 16 - 100/mg (Mon, Wed, Fri)

Sust: Week 1 – 4 - 250/mg (Mon & Fri) Week 5 – 12 - 250/mg (Mon, Wed, Fri) Week 13 – 16- 250/mg (Mon & Fri)"

Only for the last 7 weeks. Your cycle doesn't make sense to me, or really anyone else, it seems.

Keep your test level constant! There's no reason to bump up SUSTANON of all tests at the end, why bump up some of the longest esters right before the end of the cycle? Also, why EQ for such a short period of time? Do you REALLY know what you're doing, or do you just believe that because you read a few articles on Evo and "lurked" here?

You want my advice? Here it is-

Dbol first 4 weeks
Sustanon 1G a week THE WHOLE CYCLE
EQ for the whole 16 weeks
Deca would be fine for 12 weeks, but I think it's overcomplicating this and I'd remove it
Your GH protocol is good.
As far as your peptides, IDK much about them.

The Sust plan was actually recommended by a coach I know that wanted I was going to run the Sust 3x a week all way through as well. That is one reason why I posted as it was advised not too..

You think the EQ would be better for the thing running it at the same levels as i had it over the Deca for a bulk?

 

[MuscleFreakXL]

Everyone does, until they find out they don't.

I understand your but really have been using the IGF and another pep from place and have noticed well from them so def like to try their other stuff.

Def have heard of some bad sources for peps as well.

 

[MuscleFreakXL]

in my opinion peptides don't give you much and running all that gear you wont notice anything they are doing

Once I get this set def will run a thread for this to let you know what i thnk

 

[bornSkinny]

See but the thing is how could you possibly know the real effectiveness of something with that many variables??
Maybe one of those peps made all the difference maybe the gear was overdosed maybe it was a synergistic reaction. Lots of maybes

 

[Wunderpus]

The Sust plan was actually recommended by a coach I know that wanted I was going to run the Sust 3x a week all way through as well. That is one reason why I posted as it was advised not too..

You think the EQ would be better for the thing running it at the same levels as i had it over the Deca for a bulk?

Depends. EQ helps me eat, a lot... Deca adds weight too. Personal preference.

 

[jaymaximus]

No I am going to bulk not looking to cut until next year late if that. I usually start bulks when I am carrying a big of higher fat i will lean out a tad as i grow.

The test is about 1100 and the deca will be about 900. I can bring the deca down.

So youre going to "bulk" with a goal of gaining -20 lbs?

 

[jaymaximus]

Hey First time posting but been long time lurker.

I have done a number of cycles and made some sizeable gains.

Started at 210lbs natural lean and reached a lean 245lbs on my last cycle. Really like to get to 260lbs this cycle and looking to go pretty aggressive.

Currently I am 36yo, 6ft and about 280lbs, have competed for many years. Body fat on the heavier side but kinda in same place I have started all cycles. Want this to a solid bulk and think this will do it. In past haven't had any real issues with estrogen but have AI on hand if need be. Also have PCT Set

First time really using the Peptides, only have used IGF – 1 LR3 and GH in last cycle and loved it!

All the peptides were recommend and think they will be a great addition to this cycle.

Peptides:Run all way through cycle unless otherwise noted

PEG MGF – Taken on off days at 250mcg per day

Mod GRF 1-29 – Taken 3x a day (Once upon waking, 30 – 45 mins before workout, before bed) 100mcg per shot

Ipamorelin – Taken 3x a day (Once upon waking, 30 – 45 mins before workout, before bed) 100mcg per shot

IGF – 1 LR3 – Taken on training days after training - 20mcg bi laterally or on off day 40mcg SQ in morning (cycling this 4 weeks on/ 4 weeks off)

GH – 4ius in Morning upon waking and 4ius before bed (15 mins after the Mod GRF/Ipamorelin shot)


Already do have the oils and pills I can get more but like to use what I have if possible.

Cycle:

Dbol: Week 1 – 4 50mg/day

Prop: Week 1 – 16 - 100/mg (Mon, Wed, Fri)

Sust: Week 1 – 4 - 250/mg (Mon & Fri) Week 5 – 12 - 250/mg (Mon, Wed, Fri) Week 13 – 16- 250/mg (Mon & Fri)

Deca: Week 1 – 12 - 300/mg (Mon, Wed, Fri)

EQ: Week 13 – 16 - 250/mg (Mon, Wed, Fri)

 

[MuscleFreakXL]

See but the thing is how could you possibly know the real effectiveness of something with that many variables??
Maybe one of those peps made all the difference maybe the gear was overdosed maybe it was a synergistic reaction. Lots of maybes

I Have used all of the other stuff before that is why I wanted to do a more aggressive bulk, very confident in dosings.The peps I am using have been used by a coach and few friends other then the IGF and GH are ones i used before. Def will keep a log if interested.

Depends. EQ helps me eat, a lot... Deca adds weight too. Personal preference.

Hmmm... Think the weight would be better this bulk and maybe save the EQ for next then? Would you run Deca: Week 1 – 16 - 300/mg (Mon, Wed, Fri)?

 

[MuscleFreakXL]

No If i gain more I will be happy i compete so I do loose some with dieting or I may grow into my show or I may use this and take a bridge and bulk again I not opposed to being bigger.

 

[Wunderpus]

So youre going to "bulk" with a goal of gaining -20 lbs?

That was my ? as well.. But, he "competes" ya know?

 

[jaymaximus]

That was my ? as well.. But, he "competes" ya know?

That part actually really puzzles me. Its late where Im at, im tired and confused, but...

 

[MuscleFreakXL]

That was my ? as well.. But, he "competes" ya know?

I am just trying to bulk right now... Not interested in cutting. That will be later until then like to grow some more.

 

[MuscleFreakXL]

That part actually really puzzles me. Its late where Im at, im tired and confused, but...

above

 

[Wunderpus]

@jaymaximus He keeps saying he's going to grow and cut or what-the-fuck-ever... I'm not really sure what his goals are.

His original post saying he wants to bulk from 280 -> 260 makes no fucking sense to me... Glad I'm not alone. I tried to help, but it's just not sticking.

 

[MuscleFreakXL]

@jaymaximus He keeps saying he's going to grow and cut or what-the-fuck-ever... I'm not really sure what his goals are.

His original post saying he wants to bulk from 280 -> 260 makes no fucking sense to me... Glad I'm not alone. I tried to help, but it's just not sticking.

Don't worry about that part I do know that and got that covered..

Can you look at last question I asked you?

 

[Wunderpus]

Don't worry about that part I do know that and got that covered..

Can you look at last question I asked you?

Yes, you can run deca @900mg's/week for 12 or 16 weeks.

 

[MuscleFreakXL]

So your saying?
Dbol 50mg daily - first 4 weeks
Sustanon 1G a week - whole 16 weeks
Deca 900mg a week- whole 16 weeks

I will try posting the peptides in that forum and see if they like that part their?

 

[Wunderpus]

So your saying?
Dbol 50mg daily - first 4 weeks
Sustanon 1G a week - whole 16 weeks
Deca 900mg a week- whole 16 weeks

I will try posting the peptides in that forum and see if they like that part their?

That's what I'd run. Also, I think reposting in another thread would be a mistake.