This is what I mean. I rather spend 190bux for a kit of a UGL and get hgh than take a chance with Alibaba. It's not THAT much more money, and if you can't afford that you really shouldn't be doing hgh to begin with IMO. Get beat one time and it's not worth the risk. Get a 5iu bottle that is labeled 10iu and again, now your spending 140ish. Might as well just get the ugl kit for a few bux more.
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This is what I mean. I rather spend 190bux for a kit of a UGL and get hgh than take a chance with Alibaba. It's not THAT much more money, and if you can't afford that you really shouldn't be doing hgh to begin with IMO. Get beat one time and it's not worth the risk. Get a 5iu bottle that is labeled 10iu and again, now your spending 140ish. Might as well just get the ugl kit for a few bux more.
Do you know where ugl kits come from?
fodsod
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Canada??
Rockclimber
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Lol you guys are hilarious.
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I know in my contract it said x amount filled with 10 bottles containing 10ius of hgh (or something there about). At that point would quantity come into play for your GH @fodsod, since yours only contained 6 it’s? And wouldn’t @DannyP have a case as his contained “0”? @fodsod I know you are past your 30 days so it’s a mute point but @DannyP are you within 30 days of receiving? If so maybe you could file a dispute and see how it is handled? At least if things were not captured correctly on the sales order we could possibly get better instructions as for how to make sure everything is in place moving forward.Found this in the help section. Looks like it's the same as doing regular business. You have to spell out every detail in the contract to have grounds to dispute.
How do I include quality requirements in the contract?
First, negotiate and confirm the quality requirements with your supplier. These quality requirements should be measurable and actionable. They will be used by the third-party inspection company to inspect the product quality in the event of a quality dispute. Make sure your supplier has agreed to the requirements in the purchase order and you have confirmed the order - with the agreed quality requirements - before payment.
To enter your quality requirements when placing your order online, simply:
a. Click “Start Order”:
b. Enter your quality requirements in Other requirements and make sure the supplier has put it in the contract.
There has got to be recourse to complain.
I'd say that the ali scammers just assume most people either wonfw tesr or won't do anything about it regardless...
I'd say that the ali scammers just assume most people either wonfw tesr or won't do anything about it regardless...
fodsod
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It's a lack of testing I'd imagine. Few have access to the testing that would prove 100% how much GH was in a sample if at all. Maybe one should add an amendment in the contract clearly defining the testing parameters to shore up your position if the need for a dispute arises.
When I contacted my Alibaba seller about the under dosed GH they eventually asked for the test results and lab details. That's most likely going to be their go-to for shutting down complainers. That was direct contact with the seller not through Alibaba's resolution center. Providing results is one thing, providing lab details is not going to happen so I'm not sure how one would handle that and be successful.
Roco Bama
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Although there could be many sources on alibaba who carry bunk or underdosed HGH, there are few reliable sources who sell legit HGH. You just have one reliable source and stick to it. So far we have 1 person with positive experience from alibaba HGH.
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According to OP, he and I both had a good experience. The only test I ran was IGF1 bloods though. I have never had bloods done on GH before so unlike @fodsod, I have nothing to compare to, and like @DragoT said, he and his wife both had different results from the same kit, therefor I could have better results than others who tried GH from the same ali supplier.
Roco Bama
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I remember your IGF lab. you got a good IGF score which indicates that the GH is consistent.
Most of the sources on alibaba are people who contract services & goods through the manufacturers.
I.e. they are small businesses who buy from the manufacturers and then sell to their customers.
If an issue arises, they'l ask you for test results. The only results they possibly could have are the C.O.A. that are provided to them by the manufacturers. Once you'e given proof, then they'l consult with the manufacturers.
This is why it' best to get with manufacturers 1st.
I.e. they are small businesses who buy from the manufacturers and then sell to their customers.
If an issue arises, they'l ask you for test results. The only results they possibly could have are the C.O.A. that are provided to them by the manufacturers. Once you'e given proof, then they'l consult with the manufacturers.
This is why it' best to get with manufacturers 1st.
fodsod
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I'd like to add to this. While my personal GH results showed under dosed, it was real and I was happy with the results I saw based on the dosage I was using. I didn't get 5 ius worth of results but I did get some legit forward progress from the 3 ius it ended up being. Moving forward I may try another seller that other members have used with good results.
In the end though I would probably just try to negotiate the price down to a number I felt would allow me to just assume they are all dosed at 6 per vial and go from there.
At say $50 per kit for 60 iu kits that's still pretty cheap for real GH at .83 per iu. That's about as good as anyone saw with the greys and blacks if you give them credit for actually being 10 and 15 ius per vial which they weren't.
In the end though I would probably just try to negotiate the price down to a number I felt would allow me to just assume they are all dosed at 6 per vial and go from there.
At say $50 per kit for 60 iu kits that's still pretty cheap for real GH at .83 per iu. That's about as good as anyone saw with the greys and blacks if you give them credit for actually being 10 and 15 ius per vial which they weren't.
DannyP
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I'm just outside the 30 day window but it may be worth a try. Took 2 weeks to get it and 3 weeks to get it sent to Analyzer and tested.
Roco Bama
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there's no way you can tell if it's the manufacturer or Middle man on alibaba. They can just lie and claim to be the manufacturer.
I'l give you an example..
I spoke to someone about a certain item and it' quality. They told me...
"Don’t worry, I am honest. I will show to the factory if they are dishonest to me.get a report ,if so, I will do as I say."
How do I know he' a trader or manufacture? Answer is in his statement. I always ask are you a manufacture or a trading company. Yes, they'l lie or mislead you, but if you ask the right questions or ruffle some feathers, the truth will normally come out.
Btw...if you look closely, it'll say manufacturers or trading company on their mini website
I spoke to someone about a certain item and it' quality. They told me...
"Don’t worry, I am honest. I will show to the factory if they are dishonest to me.get a report ,if so, I will do as I say."
How do I know he' a trader or manufacture? Answer is in his statement. I always ask are you a manufacture or a trading company. Yes, they'l lie or mislead you, but if you ask the right questions or ruffle some feathers, the truth will normally come out.
Btw...if you look closely, it'll say manufacturers or trading company on their mini website
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The 30 day window is from The date you receive
Rockclimber
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The guys I bought from are definitely running a factory because they're showing off all of their equipment and square footage dedicated to the process. That was one of the reasons I went with them they were obviously the primary manufacturer of the product. I agree with @fodsod even if mine comes out to 6iu its still worth the price and i will just dose as needed. When I get back from my work here in Frisco Texas I'll get igf pulled this upcoming week and report back to you guys. I' running 5iu right now and it feels legit. Hopefully igf comes back solid 400+
fodsod
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I gotta say, this thread has turned out to be pretty useful and informative so far.
Thanks to all the guys in this thread that are actively participating and/or giving good constructive advice. This is the benefit of a board like MESO.
Hopefully we can continue this information gathering and posting so we can all source some decent GH at good pricing.
China isn't the point. High end designers use China as well. The point is Alibaba as a site scares me and is known for crap. It's like buying something off a peddler on the street instead of in a store. 99% of the time it's fake or some POS he bought in NYC for a dollar. I rather buy HGH from a source that others have tried, got their levels tested, and reported back then some random dude on that website. I'm not being negative, I think it's being smart about the situation guys.
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