Alibaba HGH

[fodsod]

I bulk at 3500+ ( gains 1 pound a week) and cut at 1870 calories (lose 2 pounds a week). GH definitely helps with cutting... like a whole lot. I wish I had used it at the beginning but oh well. When bulking I assume it does help keep the fat down but it's hard to really tell as I have never bulked without it to see the difference. That said I do feel like GH is a staple in any cycle. I ran it for 7 months and was then off 6 months. The difference in the way I look and feel is staggering. I feel so much better on GH, I will always have a supply on hand. If this current batch comes back from the igf test looking good I'll pick up another 1500iu, maybe more.

I've done it both ways. If you're going to bulk on GH at more than 2 uis ED you'll need to use insulin either pre-workout or post. GH makes it almost impossible to gain weight after a short while on it regardless of how much you eat if you're eating clean.

Now if you're a fat ass that does a "dirty" bulk and eats shit constantly then GH will help some but you'll over ride it's ability to burn fat with 8000 saturated fat calories ed.

In that case you won't see much actual muscle gain anyway. Just water and fat. You'll know it too when you cut for 20 weeks using every substance in the book and go from 260 down to 190 and still aren't ripped. I've seen it first hand more than once and they always regret it.

 

[fodsod]

Fear of gyno. I gained some fat or gyno behind my nipples after getting 60+ pounds overweight for 10 years (marriage and kids, no excuse though I just got lazy with work and life ). I need to cut down to 6-7% bf and see if it was all just fat or if some was gyno as well. It never itched or hurt like gyno is supposed to but I dunno, I would rather be safe than sorry especially since I run 750mg Test as the base of my cycles. I' currently at 18% bf and cutting so I'll know this year what I'm dealing with. Being 233 pounds means I have only 20 more pounds of fat to lose.

I can almost 100% guarantee you it's fat. Elevated E2 levels will contribute to fat collection around the lower chest nipple area. That's why you see the Dad bod guys that aren't even super fat with female early puberty tits.

I've seen at least 4 guys that were over weight (over 20% bf) and got down into first timer show shape (6-7%) and the last area to finally tighten up was the lower/outer chest especially around the nipple area.

These guys had full abs, external obliques showing, lower back striations but could still pinch fat around the nipple and lower outer edge of the pecs.

I had no idea guys held that much fat in those areas but it appears to be a high volume collection point for some guys especially when they get in their 30's and up.

 

[Naugahyde]

I've been looking around on Alibaba for a while and I've spoken to a few people and I think I'm gonna order from one of them and see if I can get it sent straight to Analyzer for testing. How much is his HGH testing anyways?

Didn't read that straight first time - as some of the lads here have already suggested already best send the samples yourself to Analyzer - don't rely on the supplier to do the right thing!

 

[TRT]

So for starters I just wanna say that I was NOT gonna tell the source that I wanted to "sample" the kit for testing but that I'd order a kit and just have it sent to Analyzer. You guys should know me better then that by now.
Before actually doing so I'd obviously contact Analyzer and tell him exactly what I was doing in case there was something I needed to know prior like "strict shipping guidelines" and would adhere by those even if I had to just ship to me and then one vial to him.
The only reason I wanted to do this was to save time (Ya I'm impatient. So what?! Lol) I'd like to order from a couple different sources and send them there. I'm gonna choose the best 3 (which is still a random ass guess in my opinion) and run those until we bump into a better one.
Trying to find the next Meditrope.

 

[fodsod]

So for starters I just wanna say that I was NOT gonna tell the source that I wanted to "sample" the kit for testing but that I'd order a kit and just have it sent to Analyzer. You guys should know me better then that by now.
Before actually doing so I'd obviously contact Analyzer and tell him exactly what I was doing in case there was something I needed to know prior like "strict shipping guidelines" and would adhere by those even if I had to just ship to me and then one vial to him.
The only reason I wanted to do this was to save time (Ya I'm impatient. So what?! Lol) I'd like to order from a couple different sources and send them there. I'm gonna choose the best 3 (which is still a random ass guess in my opinion) and run those until we bump into a better one.
Trying to find the next Meditrope.

I’d like to just actually locate the source of Meditrope and buy direct. Is that too much to ask? Geez. Lol.

We need a reliable contact in China that can do the research and gather the local intel. Or we can just keep banging on the Alibaba door until we find a reliable supplier.

 

[Rockclimber]

I’d like to just actually locate the source of Meditrope and buy direct. Is that too much to ask? Geez. Lol.

We need a reliable contact in China that can do the research and gather the local intel. Or we can just keep banging on the Alibaba door until we find a reliable supplier.

The top source has matotropin lol kinda close...

 

[fodsod]

The top source has matotropin lol kinda close...
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If they had any idea of the market they’d just advertise as having Meditropes and sell a ton of it. Many wouldn’t know the difference.

 

[TRT]

I’d like to just actually locate the source of Meditrope and buy direct. Is that too much to ask? Geez. Lol.

We need a reliable contact in China that can do the research and gather the local intel. Or we can just keep banging on the Alibaba door until we find a reliable supplier.

I set out to find them at one point. Spoke to people and tried to gather as much info as possible but it's like finding a needle in a haystack. Ha

 

[DragoT]

If they had any idea of the market they’d just advertise as having Meditropes and sell a ton of it. Many wouldn’t know the difference.

Very entertaining tread, no doubt.

Having in mind I see at least two new members who registered within few weeks sneaking "I made $xxx per week working from home" type of messages i.e. "Have you tried xxx from yyy"...

Let me try and make it easier for them:

1. Must have black caps
2. Must contain 4.95mg (15IU) active substance
3. Must be priced as 10IU
4. (Optional) Must have batch number stamped

Am I missing something?

 

[fodsod]

Very entertaining tread, no doubt.

Having in mind I see at least two new members who registered within few weeks sneaking "I made $xxx per week working from home" type of messages i.e. "Have you tried xxx from yyy"...

Let me try and make it easier for them:

1. Must have black caps
2. Must contain 4.95mg (15IU) active substance
3. Must be priced as 10IU
4. (Optional) Must have batch number stamped

Am I missing something?

Sounds like a solid marketing campaign. I predict over a million sales in the first month.

 

[DragoT]

You can be damn sure Alibaba resellers are scouting bodybuilding boards in the same time as bodybuilders are scouting Alibaba.

There are two types of "sources" (I think I touch on that some time ago)...

"Early Amazon like" - I find customer, you ship, I retain very small percent of the sale. This type does not have control over the quality, storage, shipment/reshipment policy etc. If a buyer is not happy, so be it. Another will pop soon or later.

End-to-end operations shop - I buy raw material in bulk, I am in charge of lyophilization process, mixing with filler, dosing, vacuum sealing it in the vials and so on.

Note at this moment every "ding dong biotech co." shows blue tops! Why? Because they are "Type I".

I have no doubt "blacks and grays" are product of "Type II". The notion of "branding" is somehow misleading, thou. Meditrope... in a plain white box... more of less a street name like a "blow, show, line, dust". This is not to undermine the good reputation, just an assessment. Even today I don't (nor I need to) know what the price of "kit of blacks" goes for, but yes, "overdosing" is an valuable marketing trick and worked beautifully here. I have to give them shout out where one is due.

 

[VariableInterest]

First post here but I’ve been following this thread pretty much since it started as I’ve had my eye on alibaba gh since around mid 2017. Anyways, I took the plunge recently and ordered from two vendors (200iu each). One was from Greenway and the other was from Jining Eagle. My Greenway order has been held up in customs for 2 weeks so I can’t comment on that one yet but I have received my Jining order timely, within 8 days of ordering.

Make note this is my first time using hgh and I’ve also been running mk-677 daily at 25mg a day for the last four months. I’ve recently added 2iu of gh. I’m only 3 days in but I immediately noticed a big improvement in quality of sleep after the first injection. Like vivid dreaming and waking up feeling so damn refreshed the last two nights. I was not expecting this as I assumed no effects until several weeks/months in. But researching some forums a lot of people reported the same immediate improvement in sleep.

Anyways, I’d like to contribute here however I can. I’ll likely be doing IGF-1 testing later on and can share those results. Unfortunately I have no baseline number. Let me know if there are requests for any other tests. I’d possibly consider having this analyzer guy HPLC test it but not sure if I want to pay that price. Not entirely ruling it out yet though.

Let me know if any questions.

 

[Recreational muscle]

First post here but I’ve been following this thread pretty much since it started as I’ve had my eye on alibaba gh since around mid 2017. Anyways, I took the plunge recently and ordered from two vendors (200iu each). One was from Greenway and the other was from Jining Eagle. My Greenway order has been held up in customs for 2 weeks so I can’t comment on that one yet but I have received my Jining order timely, within 8 days of ordering.

Make note this is my first time using hgh and I’ve also been running mk-677 daily at 25mg a day for the last four months. I’ve recently added 2iu of gh. I’m only 3 days in but I immediately noticed a big improvement in quality of sleep after the first injection. Like vivid dreaming and waking up feeling so damn refreshed the last two nights. I was not expecting this as I assumed no effects until several weeks/months in. But researching some forums a lot of people reported the same immediate improvement in sleep.

Anyways, I’d like to contribute here however I can. I’ll likely be doing IGF-1 testing later on and can share those results. Unfortunately I have no baseline number. Let me know if there are requests for any other tests. I’d possibly consider having this analyzer guy HPLC test it but not sure if I want to pay that price. Not entirely ruling it out yet though.

Let me know if any questions.

Welcome, keep us posted. I think I speak for everyone when I say we are definitely interested in finding out as much as possible about any and all alibaba distributors (or other reliable distributors @DragoT).

 

[mdhx3]

I got the same brand as the one you got delivered. I haven't injected them yet; just put them in the refrigerator while waiting on funds to test first.
I want to do the actual product test rather than injecting it and testing my blood. I guess I just have serious trust issues with the East.....
I will post results of the analysis when they are available (not sure when that will be because I am saving to send multiple things at the same time).
If you get Igf-1 elevation from it; I may go ahead and start using it.
I will say that the guy I dealt with was pretty straight up and left little room for bargaining; and the transaction was professional. That means absolutely nothing though if I got some absolute junk.
I think this thread has some really good potential. If enough of us buy from enough different sources; we are bound to find something reasonably effective and cost efficient. Probably going to piss off some sources though.....

 

[DragoT]

Welcome, keep us posted. I think I speak for everyone when I say we are definitely interested in finding out as much as possible about any and all alibaba distributors (or other reliable distributors @DragoT).

Finding reliable source/product is half luck, half art. Keep in mind - the Chinese gov. is under pressure to crack down on "suppliers of chemicals". Make an experiment - contact three Alibaba "biotech" listings and ask about illegal recreational drugs. I guarantee at least one will say "how much you want". Not that I encourage you to do so, of course.

While Americans are bred with the notion of "exceptionalism" and "superiority", Chinese just... don't trust (nor they give a flying fuck for) the white man, or respect it until "eat 1kg of salt together".

As I said before, there is a line I cannot cross.

However, I would make an open call to all that want to become "suppliers" to the members of this board. Do what TP and PD did - register, become a sponsor, invest (or at least share) expenses for testing and work your way to earn trust and respect. Shit like "I just bought a kit from xxx.com and my hands are numb" ain't going to fly

I can also tell you that there is somewhat psychological factor that is in play. Even if someone desires to take the "high road" above, there are countless example of vicious attacks and absolutely meaningless arguments that are (I guarantee you) perceived as "waste of time". I have a reason to say that...

 

[mdhx3]

There is a supplier I have been communicating with that claims to be a manufacturer of HGH, as well as a distributor of multiple name brands (Chinese). Other than the company website, I cannot find a single opinion, review, or other mention of the company. The name is Rongxin Bio-Tech Co.,Ltd（H.K.). I honestly cannot remember how I found them because they are not on Alibaba or Made-in-China.
They advertise, on their company page, Riptropin, Taitropin, Kigtropin, Hygetropin, Jintropin, Rentropin, and a generic.
I can't make heads or tails of them really.
I did think I almost caught the sales lady in a lie when she told me they manufactured Jintropin. She eventually apologized for leading me into that; and said they get unlabeled vials from GenSci; and sell them as Jintropin.
When I asked about authentication from the labels, the price jumped from $100/100iu to $350/100iu.
I have sat on her last email for a week, not sure if I believe anything advertised on the site or in our emails.
What do you guys think of the "unlabeled" Jintropin sold as Jintropin for much less? Plausible?
Of course, I emailed GenSci; but no response from them. I did notice that Rongxin Bio-Tech Co.,Ltd（H.K.) is not on the list of distributors on the GenSci website.
Dealing with liars, lying out of their lie filled liar holes is absolutely exhausting. If I was rich, it wouldn't matter I guess.

 

[DragoT]

Okie dokie, let me show you how it is done.

The web site name is rongxinbio.com

We go to ICANN WHOIS to check the domain registration details:

Hmm, April 2, 2017?

Issue #1 - no self respecting company will register domain name for one year only and risk someone to forget to renew it (hell, Microsoft forgot to renew hotmail.com, a case that ended in court few years ago).



Issue #2 - the discrepancy between date of creation of this domain name (rongxinbio.com) and the statement of the web site it self:



So, they have factory since 2009 and just year ago (in April) someone say "Damn, might be a good idea to have a web site as well"?!?

Issue #3 - phone number (or FEL as they call it). China country code is +86, whereas Honk Kong have +852.



So, when you call them, someone in China mainland will answer. Why I am not surprised?

Then, the address as listed:









Lastly, the web site was created and first published on Internet on June 25, 2017 (less than a year ago).



Does your "bullshit radar" flashing bright red yet?

 

[mdhx3]

Okie dokie, let me show you how it is done.

The web site name is rongxinbio.com

We go to ICANN WHOIS to check the domain registration details:

Hmm, April 2, 2017?

Issue #1 - no self respecting company will register domain name for one year only and risk someone to forget to renew it (hell, Microsoft forgot to renew hotmail.com, a case that ended in court few years ago).

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Issue #2 - the discrepancy between date of creation of this domain name (rongxinbio.com) and the statement of the web site it self:

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So, they have factory since 2009 and just year ago (in April) someone say "Damn, might be a good idea to have a web site as well"?!?

Issue #3 - phone number (or FEL as they call it). China country code is +86, whereas Honk Kong have +852.

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So, when you call them, someone in China mainland will answer. Why I am not surprised?

Then, the address as listed:



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Lastly, the web site was created and first published on Internet on June 25, 2017 (less than a year ago).

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Does your "bullshit radar" flashing bright red yet?

The needle is pegged sir.
Thanks a lot for that. I've been communicating with them for 2 weeks before I got exasperated a week ago. I'm certainly not computer challenged; but what you did there blows my skills out of the water.
Thanks again.

 

[coz]

I've checked Alibaba many times, and I live in Asia (although expat). Almost all of them when you dig are less than a year old & reference Chinese companies that have been around 15+ yrs

I would personally keep away from them all..

Although with them so cheap would love to hear of one that is legit !!

 

[Mezzano]

Alibaba HGH....bought a flashlight off there once.......got so hot it melted. I wouldn’t buy a scrubber for the shitter off there let alone shit to inject into my body.