Alibaba HGH

Approximately 10ius of HGH per vial, almost pharma standards. Those were the results I got.
I can’t give sources on here I don’t think

You’ve gotten this twisted somehow. Your info isn’t helpful to the forum if we don’t know the source whose hgh you tested. You don’t need to vouch for this source. You are just passing along valuable information that will keep other members from needlessly wasting their money and risking their health. If We we don’t talk about specific sources what’s the point?
 
You’ve gotten this twisted somehow. Your info isn’t helpful to the forum if we don’t know the source whose hgh you tested. You don’t need to vouch for this source. You are just passing along valuable information that will keep other members from needlessly wasting their money and risking their health. If We we don’t talk about specific sources what’s the point?
Just pm him and ask. Some people don't want to broadcast sources they have done business with on the internet for all to see. Especially if it's site like Alibaba that has a lot of documented ordering information.
 
You think somewhere somebody is cross referencing board handles with Ali order info? Come on bro

I think if someone doesn't want to share in the open for whatever reason then I respect that and if I want to know more I have no problem asking via pm.

I have no opinion on the actual scenario of information gathering. It was just that, a scenario. Honestly, if it got that far with LE then you're screwed anyway but I know I don't share my personal sources out in the open if it's not a source that's already well known.
 
They are popular everywhere and tp and pd are trusted everywhere as well. Mainly because these products test well and are always improving. My point isn’t about alibaba cap color, reviews, tenure etc. It’s about purity, dimmer etc. Are we really comparing apples to apples? Or as I suspect are Alibaba vendors a lower price but a step down in quality?
I have reservations trusting the HGH on a wholesale site like Alibaba. I personally don't believe its the same quality as the top generics - some of whom, no names;) - are reputed to be made in the same facility as a licensed Chinese Phamaceutical HGH product. Of course I've also got no proof - so I may well be talking crap as well as potentially throwing away money on a massively marked up product in pretty packaging!
 
Well, we have a few members that have or are having different ones analyzed in the same fashion the "top" generics were tested and also doing IGF-1 testing for results. I'm sure those findings will be showing up at some point.

Both of the "top" generics tested OK but below the actual advertised IU per vial. You can look up the results right here on MESO. That's typically my concern is how much am I getting per vial. If it's cheap you can take more to off set a shortage but you have to know how short it is.
 
Well, we have a few members that have or are having different ones analyzed in the same fashion the "top" generics were tested and also doing IGF-1 testing for results. I'm sure those findings will be showing up at some point.

Both of the "top" generics tested OK but below the actual advertised IU per vial. You can look up the results right here on MESO. That's typically my concern is how much am I getting per vial. If it's cheap you can take more to off set a shortage but you have to know how short it is.

I don’t recall ever seeing grays or blacks coming in under advertised dose. Are these recent tests?
 
Even if they come up short I have been quoted as low as 54 cents per iu. From 7+ year high rated manufacturers. Pretty crazy, scared me away it was so cheap.
 
Every single test posted here on MESO that @mands and Dr Jim did showed the Greys at an 7.5-9 iu average and the blacks at 13-13.5 average. I even posted on it when I posted blood work showing my IGF levels while on "5ius" of greys ED after 5 months. The results were indicative of 3.5-4 ius per day compared to my previous GH results.

It's here somewhere. Someone even put together a spread sheet to show all the results of all the samples tested. It's been over a year ago as best as I can remember.
 
Well, we have a few members that have or are having different ones analyzed in the same fashion the "top" generics were tested and also doing IGF-1 testing for results. I'm sure those findings will be showing up at some point.

Both of the "top" generics tested OK but below the actual advertised IU per vial. You can look up the results right here on MESO. That's typically my concern is how much am I getting per vial. If it's cheap you can take more to off set a shortage but you have to know how short it is.
Look forward to being proved wrong if the analysis shows as much.
 
Every single test posted here on MESO that @mands and Dr Jim did showed the Greys at an 7.5-9 iu average and the blacks at 13-13.5 average. I even posted on it when I posted blood work showing my IGF levels while on "5ius" of greys ED after 5 months. The results were indicative of 3.5-4 ius per day compared to my previous GH results.

It's here somewhere. Someone even put together a spread sheet to show all the results of all the samples tested. It's been over a year ago as best as I can remember.
Sure - total props to @mands and DrJim for doing those tests for our benefit but wasn't there an issue with the Pharma reference sample? If I recall it also tested short ( unlikely for Pharma ) - which then raised doubt about the accuracy of all the rest
 
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Sure - total props to @mands and DrJim for doing those tests for our benefit but wasn't there an issue with the Pharma reference sample? If I recall it also tested short ( unlikely for Pharma ) - which then raised doubt about the accuracy of all the rest
There was an issue with the test and we actually sent it off for HPLC/MS testing. And there was some unforeseen issues with the testing. I have some emails from the lab I would have to dig up.

Dr Jim didn’t really want to follow up with it. After all the crap he was taking on for work we did and money we spent out of our own pockets. He was like F it and kinda left it up to me. I think and at that point time he passed and I just dropped it. I could go back and see what I have but can’t guarantee I can find anything.

mands
 
There was an issue with the test and we actually sent it off for HPLC/MS testing. And there was some unforeseen issues with the testing. I have some emails from the lab I would have to dig up.

Dr Jim didn’t really want to follow up with it. After all the crap he was taking on for work we did and money we spent out of our own pockets. He was like F it and kinda left it up to me. I think and at that point time he passed and I just dropped it. I could go back and see what I have but can’t guarantee I can find anything.

mands
Hey look I think everyone here really respects what you both achieved, self financing the project and investing your own free time and such. I remember now it was finding that thread that brought me to Meso in the first place. Glad I did - and stayed...
 
I bought 15 kits so I want to run through this first kit before giving Bloods. I know we don't go by sides but I can definitely feel this working. I can't believe how good this is for the price. I expect igf to come in 400+... we will see in a few weeks. Can barely stay awake on 5iu... sleeping 10+ hours a day when you add in my nap. Crazy strong feeling.

My testing philosophy is:
1. Personal feeling i.e. side effects
2. Blood test igf
3. Blood test serum
4. Send off to analyzer if previous 3 all score high.

If 1-3 do well I'll probably buy another 1500 iu for me and 1000iu for the wife.
 
I bought 15 kits so I want to run through this first kit before giving Bloods. I know we don't go by sides but I can definitely feel this working. I can't believe how good this is for the price. I expect igf to come in 400+... we will see in a few weeks. Can barely stay awake on 5iu... sleeping 10+ hours a day when you add in my nap. Crazy strong feeling.

My testing philosophy is:
1. Personal feeling i.e. side effects
2. Blood test igf
3. Blood test serum
4. Send off to analyzer if previous 3 all score high.

If 1-3 do well I'll probably buy another 1500 iu for me and 1000iu for the wife.
Keeps us posted, especially if you send off to analyzer
 
I bought 15 kits so I want to run through this first kit before giving Bloods. I know we don't go by sides but I can definitely feel this working. I can't believe how good this is for the price. I expect igf to come in 400+... we will see in a few weeks. Can barely stay awake on 5iu... sleeping 10+ hours a day when you add in my nap. Crazy strong feeling.

My testing philosophy is:
1. Personal feeling i.e. side effects
2. Blood test igf
3. Blood test serum
4. Send off to analyzer if previous 3 all score high.

If 1-3 do well I'll probably buy another 1500 iu for me and 1000iu for the wife.
Interesting - are these
I bought 15 kits so I want to run through this first kit before giving Bloods. I know we don't go by sides but I can definitely feel this working. I can't believe how good this is for the price. I expect igf to come in 400+... we will see in a few weeks. Can barely stay awake on 5iu... sleeping 10+ hours a day when you add in my nap. Crazy strong feeling.

My testing philosophy is:
1. Personal feeling i.e. side effects
2. Blood test igf
3. Blood test serum
4. Send off to analyzer if previous 3 all score high.

If 1-3 do well I'll probably buy another 1500 iu for me and 1000iu for the wife.
That's a lot of product to get through customs - you must have been worried whether it would make it.
Interested to see how this works out...
 
Interesting - are these

That's a lot of product to get through customs - you must have been worried whether it would make it.
Interested to see how this works out...
I was definitely worried because they don't use stealth shipping at all. Fortunately 1500 units is only 6 inch by 6 inch by 4 inch in size. I requested a different color top but ended up with green instead. Not a big deal , these green tops are pretty potent from my very limited experience. I can't wait to get these things tested and see what they actually come in at it. They're supposed to be 10iu each. 20180223_130422.jpg
 
I was definitely worried because they don't use stealth shipping at all. Fortunately 1500 units is only 6 inch by 6 inch by 4 inch in size. I requested a different color top but ended up with green instead. Not a big deal , these green tops are pretty potent from my very limited experience. I can't wait to get these things tested and see what they actually come in at it. They're supposed to be 10iu each. View attachment 86268
How did you determine which vendor to use?
 
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