Alibaba HGH

[batespcm]

Christmas come earlier mo fo’s. Got my lab results. I was like a little kid opening a present at Christmas time when logging on and downloading results. IGF-1 results 456, will post picture when I get to a printer.

Where were you expecting the results to be numbers wise?

 

[Recreational muscle]

I’m new to GH and really don’t know. I have had baseline results about a year ago and my levels where normal per my doctor. The fact that they are high now at least tells me this stuff is real. Now whether it’s dosed/filled properly I was hoping maybe someone with more experience could help out maybe @mands.

 

[RandallNowan]

I guess you'd never know the dosing for sure unless you sent it off for analysis... Sadly.

Even if you bought a dozen, there's no guarantee they would all be the same / from the same batch.

It's the chance we take - but we've got to do our best to share what knowledge we can and help one another along.

 

[Recreational muscle]

Absolutely @RandallNowan, I’m happy to finally be able to contribute back to the community that’s has helped me along and provided me with answers to my questions.

 

[rpbb]

I’m new to GH and really don’t know. I have had baseline results about a year ago and my levels where normal per my doctor. The fact that they are high now at least tells me this stuff is real. Now whether it’s dosed/filled properly I was hoping maybe someone with more experience could help out maybe @mands.

you can send it to analyzer for hplc testing, would give you strength and purity. you can get his info in the lab testing section. sorry if you already knew this stuff

 

[mands]

I’m new to GH and really don’t know. I have had baseline results about a year ago and my levels where normal per my doctor. The fact that they are high now at least tells me this stuff is real. Now whether it’s dosed/filled properly I was hoping maybe someone with more experience could help out maybe @mands.

Looks like pretty decent numbers for 4 iu's. You cannot be certain the purity and concentration with blood work but you can tell if it's real GH by the increase in IGF-1 levels.

If I had to guess I would say it's dosed accurately.

mands

 

[Recreational muscle]

I’d be happy to donate a bottle for testing but Paying for it to be tested is a different story. Sorry money is a little tight and Its not really a big concern for me, I just dropped money to check my IGF-1 levels. At $60 a kit I could do 3 more kits at the price of getting this “lab tested”. Elevated IGF-1 levels are good enough for me. I have had no adverse reactions, like red welts or anything, my libido is up, I am sleeping better, and maybe this is in my head but I’m more energetic and overall just feeling better, and @mands just told me what I wanted to hear. Thanks Big man!!!

 

[Naugahyde]

You have to understand - this is cultural thing, not necessarily "ethics issue". Moral and legal implications are left for the "other" party, it is not considered "manufacturers fault". You have never heard about "undervalue invoice", right? This is because China have most favorable nation status when comes to trade with US i.e. no import taxes or tariffs when import. Now take Europe. All imported goods are evaluated based on "import tariff book". Lets say you import ball joints. There is (for example) 15% import duties. The duties are calculated based on the price on the invoice (FOB) plus transport cost. Why one have to pay duties on transportation cost is beyond me, but any way. Then, Europe have VAT tax system (absolute scam run by the government) - 22% in my country of birth, and at some point your staring in to 40-60% raise of cost before you added profit margin. So, you are offered "undervalue invoice" i.e. lower cost is stated on the invoice on which duties are calculated. This practice is sanctioned by the Chinese government (not enforcing laws, that is) in order to stimulate exports. We all see where China is today, right.

Again, moral and legal aspect is left off for the buyer, Chinese simply did you a favor.

Now, back to GH. While I am not saying that all sellers on Alibaba are low life scumbags. Probably most of them are good people. The biggest area of concern is their knowledge on the subject (HGH handling) and if they will follow the best practices. This is - if they even order any q'ty for local storage. From my personal experience, reading between the lines, when I order a kit(s), my guy informs the "factory" which in turn gives the parcel to the "forwarder" (another term you guys should be familiar with - third party acting as a fuse that is safe to burn and so manufacturer or seller are never directly implicated).

Here is the biggest point of concern - how long the product is exposed to uncontrolled conditions.

As I said many times - it is a crap shoot...

Call it whatever semantic concoction you like what I 'understand' is it still sucks.
The idea of a manufacturer deliberately producing a safety critical product that fails almost instantaneously on use is just plain wrong to me. Ditto a GH vial with excess heavy metals or contaminants or undeclared peptides...
Even if that's a specific requirement of our 'purchaser'. Crazy - I know.
Should we expect our auto parts manufacturer in China to turn away a lucrative contract because their 'made to fail' spec cheap jack balljoint then blew out on the interstate -- turning what was once a family into a pulpy ball of Chrysler rusty metal plastic and blood and guts? Probably not. It's not 'manufacturers fault' right? Wrong.
Agreed it's not exclusively an Eastern way of doing business - it's been a way of doing business everywhere since business was done. I remember Grow your own Sea Monkey's too pal - still biting back the tears...
So scrub the Far Eastern Ethics comment - it was very un pc of me. What was it we were we talking about again?

 

[fodsod]

I’d be happy to donate a bottle for testing but Paying for it to be tested is a different story. Sorry money is a little tight and Its not really a big concern for me, I just dropped money to check my IGF-1 levels. At $60 a kit I could do 3 more kits at the price of getting this “lab tested”. Elevated IGF-1 levels are good enough for me. I have had no adverse reactions, like red welts or anything, my libido is up, I am sleeping better, and maybe this is in my head but I’m more energetic and overall just feeling better, and @mands just told me what I wanted to hear. Thanks Big man!!!

It would be nice to see the actual test results but honestly it's only telling you what's in that one vial. The next batch or even the next vial in the box could be different. I'm OK with IGF testing, motioning sides and watching the changes in my physique. That tells me that it's real and it's working. That's all I care about as the rest of it is out of my control.

FYI, that's a good number for 4 uis ED. I'd agree with @mands that it's dosed correctly or damn close to it.

 

[DragoT]

Call it whatever semantic concoction you like what I 'understand' is it still sucks!
Maybe I'm just Old Fashioned but the idea of a manufacturer deliberately producing a safety critical product that fails almost instantaneously on use is just - wrong.
Even if that's a specific requirement of our purchaser. Crazy I know.
Is it realistic to expect an auto parts manufacturer in China to turn away a lucrative contract because their 'made to fail' spec cheap jack balljoint blew out on the interstate - turning a family into a pulpy ball of Chrysler rusty metal plastic and blood and guts? Probably not. But those are my 'ethics' and I'm sticking with them - thanks.
I agree it's not exclusively an Eastern way of doing business - it's been a way of doing business everywhere since business was done. I remember Grow your own Sea Monkey's too!
Yes - scrub the Far Eastern Ethics comment - it was very un pc of me! Now what was it we were we talking about again?

We do share personal experiences here every day and I just wanted to crack open the door to far eastern business culture and practices for y'all. If you noticed, I do stay away from personal assessment (negative or positive) and just... passing what I have learned from my five years every-day-interaction with my Taiwanese partners.

I can talk about dark shit I have seen there too... like 10-12 years old children assembling plastic window blinds on the factory floor for... Walmart. Yes, I have heard that name (Walmart) three years before moving here and walk in to one. I even wrote Walmart about what I have seen... doubt it made any difference. Talking about ethics...

 

[Naugahyde]

We do share personal experiences here every day and I just wanted to crack open the door to far eastern business culture and practices for y'all. If you noticed, I do stay away from personal assessment (negative or positive) and just... passing what I have learned from my five years every-day-interaction with my Taiwanese partners.

I can talk about dark shit I have seen there too... like 10-12 years old children assembling plastic window blinds on the factory floor for... Walmart. Yes, I have heard that name (Walmart) three years before moving here and walk in to one. I even wrote Walmart about what I have seen... doubt it made any difference. Talking about ethics...

Always appreciate reading your posts - usually interesting and with a broader view of things. Keep those stories coming

 

[DragoT]

I have a lot of stories to tell The one that got me big time is when I had a dinner with the owner, president and CEO of Taiwanese company. European way to drink liqueur is by small sips, with bites in between, just take your time and enjoy. Normally, bottoms up is not an option and considered bad manners. So, the dude hold his glass, said something in Chinese ("Gom bui" or shit like that), at that point everyone in the room bows and drinks to the bottom. Mind you, they drink Alcohol 58% by volume! I take a sip and leave my glass on the table. Oh my, like someone nuked the place, it become quiet you can hear a mouse fart. How would I know "Gom bui" means "dry the glass" and you are not obligated to do so if equal or lesser rank proposes it. However, if a someone with higher rank ask you to do so, you better drink it or will be consider mortal offense. The only thing that got me off is when my guy apologized and took the blame for not having time to explain the protocol and customs.

It is a different world out there, man. Like they say "A man (Chinese man, that is) must consume one kilo of salt along with Gweilo before can trust him". One kilo is a lot of salt...

 

[ForeverSmall]

Thanks @Recreational muscle.

I'm trying to lower my price now. Hopefully we agree on something soon.

 

[BBQ Chicken]

I pulled the trigger on 15 boxes from Greenway... I've been lurking on here for weeks and decided to make an account recently. This would be my first time running, but I'd like to help the community in any way I can if at all possible.

 

[Recreational muscle]

I pulled the trigger on 15 boxes from Greenway... I've been lurking on here for weeks and decided to make an account recently. This would be my first time running, but I'd like to help the community in any way I can if at all possible.

Very good place to order from!!!!

 

[raped ape]

Are you referring to greenway on alibaba?

 

[BBQ Chicken]

Are you referring to greenway on alibaba?

Yes. I guess I should've specified. I just figured it wasn't needed since we're in the Alibaba thread.. but based on other threads I can see things get off topic sometimes lol. Do you know anything about them?

 

[raped ape]

Yes. I guess I should've specified. I just figured it wasn't needed since we're in the Alibaba thread.. but based on other threads I can see things get off topic sometimes lol. Do you know anything about them?

True I just wasn’t sure if that was a source on another board or on this one, I don’t meander to this board often, is greenway a good supplier or something? Has his stuff been tested? Is that where these guys got the gh that tested well?

 

[BBQ Chicken]

True I just wasn’t sure if that was a source on another board or on this one, I don’t meander to this board often, is greenway a good supplier or something? Has his stuff been tested? Is that where these guys got the gh that tested well?

To be honest, most of it all looked and seemed the same to me on Alibaba. Greenway's customer service seemed to be much bettet than all of the other ones that gave generic responses to all of my questions. I also saw that they only had 2 years of gold supplier, but had over $200k in transactions in the last 6 months or so.. and it didn't look like any other company came close to that. I know these things may not mean anything at all, but my gut just said to go with them and I should be getting my shipment in like 8 or 9 days I believe.

Was able to get them to go down to 60 per box. It was about $100 or so for shipping. I paid extra for the "100% safe method" they called it and they claimed they would send more for no cost at all to me if anything happened and I didn't get the first initial shipment.

There's another supplier on Alibaba that I was talking to for quite some time that had 11 years gold supplier and they seemed more legit than most as well, but they would not go lower than $85 per box. I think these people also guarantee delivery.

It really does seem like a crap shoot, but the process was pretty painless. I'll give an update if/when I receive mine.

 

[Recreational muscle]

To be honest, most of it all looked and seemed the same to me on Alibaba. Greenway's customer service seemed to be much bettet than all of the other ones that gave generic responses to all of my questions. I also saw that they only had 2 years of gold supplier, but had over $200k in transactions in the last 6 months or so.. and it didn't look like any other company came close to that. I know these things may not mean anything at all, but my gut just said to go with them and I should be getting my shipment in like 8 or 9 days I believe.

Was able to get them to go down to 60 per box. It was about $100 or so for shipping. I paid extra for the "100% safe method" they called it and they claimed they would send more for no cost at all to me if anything happened and I didn't get the first initial shipment.

There's another supplier on Alibaba that I was talking to for quite some time that had 11 years gold supplier and they seemed more legit than most as well, but they would not go lower than $85 per box. I think these people also guarantee delivery.

It really does seem like a crap shoot, but the process was pretty painless. I'll give an update if/when I receive mine.

You should be good bro, they aren’t BS’ing when it comes to the shipping method, I got them to give me some details on it and shit makes sense, seems pretty safe and worked splendid for me. With that being said please keep the details hush, no need to put details of how they do the shipping on the open forum If ya know what I mean.