Alibaba HGH

[Ambiguous]

Unless they are teleporting it startrek style packs from china are a crapshoot right now

 

[Roco Bama]

Unless they are teleporting it startrek style packs from china are a crapshoot right now

How many of your packages from china were seized by customs ?

 

[Rockclimber]

Mine came with zero stealth, still made it. Others here came with zero stealth, were opened and inspected and still made it. Crazy.

 

[Ambiguous]

How many of your packages from china were seized by customs ?

I’m loosing 50% here lately. Some sail through smooth. Some tied up for a month eventually make it. And 50% are lost

 

[Roco Bama]

I’m loosing 50% here lately. Some sail through smooth. Some tied up for a month eventually make it. And 50% are lost

Damn

 

[Rockclimber]

So go for the 15-30 kit orders so you have enough for a few years. I didn't realize the interception rate was so high...

 

[Recreational muscle]

Unless they are teleporting it startrek style packs from china are a crapshoot right now

Their shipping method if your willing to pay for it may be the next best thing, (at least with the company I used). I also spoke to another company who uses a unique form of shipping to the states. You doing basic, ordinary shipping??

 

[Ambiguous]

Their shipping method if your willing to pay for it may be the next best thing, (at least with the company I used). I also spoke to another company who uses a unique form of shipping to the states. You doing basic, ordinary shipping??

His shipping is as good as I’ve seen. But we should switch to PM to discuss further

 

[fodsod]

I got the IGF results back today. I'll post the actual lab doc tomorrow but at what should be 5 ius split am and pm ED for over a month only running the Alibaba GH I had a lack luster 171 raise up to 286.

Most definitely under dosed. It's real but I'd guess there's about 5.5-6ius of GH in there which would put me at 2.75-3 uis ED. I'm usually at around 400+ at 4 ius ED running the greys so the math works out for me personally at least.

So in my situation I'd have to run a vial a day to get around the 5uis I was shooting for daily. That ends up not being the savings it appears to be. Good thing I only picked up 5 kits of this one.

I'd like to see some others reporting their blood work once they've been on a while to see if maybe there is at least one of them that has something close to the greys or blacks dosage wise.

 

[RandallNowan]

@fodsod thank you for your contribution once more.

 

[fodsod]

So after assessing my situation I’m going run a half dose of the Alibaba GH and a half dose of the grey tops daily.

I’m estimating the Alibaba GH at 6 ius per vial at this point. So that would have me at 3uis ed for the last month. My experience with the greys is they run between 7.5-9 per vial. So I typically average them a 8.5 to be safe.

I’ll still split the dosing into am and pm. Probably run the greys dose in the am and the Alibaba dosed in the pm.

My estimation is that should get me up into the 4ius ed range. I’ll do that moving forward and retest for IGF again in about a month to see if there was any change in the numbers.

Shit happens guys. At least we’re getting good information to make informed decisions. The more testing we see the better we can narrow the list of Alibaba suppliers and pick the best ones to give out money too.

 

[DragoT]

Might I ask how long it took for your 5 kits to arrive?

 

[fodsod]

Might I ask how long it took for your 5 kits to arrive?

About 15 days with customs actually opening it up and sending it anyway.

For everyone's information I used Greenway on Alibaba. It's impossible to know if it's actually under dosed or if it degraded to that level but based on my previous few years of IGF testing by comparison the kits I got are definitely somewhere around 6 ius per vial.

 

[DragoT]

I will be discussing this subject (rate of degradation due to unsafe conditions) with someone and let y'all know if get an answer worth sharing.

From business prospective, for any market, and any product, flat out lie can kill it faster than Maxine Waters ca say "Impeach 45"

In China, business success is measured by volume and not net profit per unit...

 

[fodsod]

As promised here are the actual lab results from the IGF testing. The previous test done about 5 weeks prior is on here in the lab test area.

Here's the link to the previous testing results.

https://thinksteroids.com/community...ood-work-for-your-viewing-pleasure.134390832/

 

[nolimitz]

Thanks for sharing this with us. Looks like I'll cross them off the list. I plan to get some blacktops from tp again but it seems there's still some shipping issues.

 

[ForeverSmall]

Damn. Good thing a snow storm prevented me from ordering. Back to the drawing board

 

[DragoT]

There is no better place than this thread to share something that will blow your mind and make you re-consider a lot of things...

First the background - wife and I have been taking GH in a quest to optimize hormones to levels of 30y old. Five or six months ago we decided on dose 3IU per day, 1.5 in the morning, 1.5 evening for each one of us. Same batch, same vial.

Blood drawn Jan 16, 2018
Male, 56y old, 172lb



Blood drawn March 12, 2018
Female, 50y old, 132lb



Again, same batch, same vial, 3IU per day, split. Think about that for a second.

Generally speaking, if you take 2IUs/day of rHGH, your endogenous response to peptides will likely be suppressed (partially or fully) for anywhere between 16-36 hours.

Unless Chester missed the fact man and woman behave differently when come to suppression due to exogenous GH, or I am poor responder, or wife is a wander woman (very likely since she put up with my shit 32 years and counting)... whatever the case is, same batch, same vial, 3IU per day, split.

There goes "my tops are better than yours" contest.

 

[ChestRockwell]

Unless Chester missed the fact man and woman behave differently when come to suppression due to exogenous GH, or I am poor responder, or wife is a wander woman (very likely since she put up with my shit 32 year and counting)... whatever the case is, same batch, same vial, 3IU per day, split.

This is certainly intriguing as females generally will produce significantly lower levels of endocrine IGF-1. However, this is largely due to estrogen, so if her levels are suppressed due to age or pharmacology then that could potentially allow her to have higher conversion rates...

 

[DragoT]

Spot on again!

She did tests two consecutive months on almost the same day, where the difference is last month she is on progesterone pill (Estrogen antagonist) and indeed all Estrogens were lower (but still within reference range i.e. instead of close to 80%, rather close to 20% or the ref range). But still... this is YUGE difference.

In any case her pin while ago was 1IU instead of 1.5IU. I would prefer to be 200 or less (57-195 ng/mL) and not above 300...