ANABOLIC/ENERGY MESO PROMO

[Smeegle]

I know where you got those from.

Too bad they can't get it together or I'd order more.

 

[franchise24]

Too bad they can't get it together or I'd order more.

I heard that they are having issues now. Sucks.

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[ANABOLIC/ENERGY]

Hope everyone is enjoying their gear for the new year.Our @Nela is being sorted out by the way guys.

 

[Jayhgh]

I had bloods drawn yesterday. I had pinned 3IU of the Verntopin about 3 hours before the draw. I will post next Thursday as I had my growth serum level tested.

You already got the bloods brother?

 

[ANABOLIC/ENERGY]

Ha.Thats what I was gone to ask this morning.

 

[MNIRON]

I got my blood tests back this morning. Usually I get them back in 7 days. I have been pinning the VERMOTROPIN HGH 100IU - VERMODJE for almost 4 weeks now. Stared at 2IU and worked my way up to 3UI a day. I do 5 days a week and pin in the AM. Before this blood test I had pinned 3 IU. Blood was drawn 3 hours later. I know there is a BIG argument about doing an IGF1 test vs growth serum tests to validate if what you have is HGH. Several folks including an endro I talked to said to just do the growth serum as if there was a high concentration of HGH even at 3IU it should be elevated. I wasn't testing to find out how my body converts it into IGF1 etc. Just wanted to see if it works. My labs are attached. Would be great with some help to interpret. Seems low to me. I am not going to take 10IU a day to try and replicate Pharm.

Growth Hormone, Serum Growth Hormone,
Serum 1.2 0.0-10.0 ng/mL

 

[Smeegle]

I got my blood tests back this morning. Usually I get them back in 7 days. I have been pinning the VERMOTROPIN HGH 100IU - VERMODJE for almost 4 weeks now. Stared at 2IU and worked my way up to 3UI a day. I do 5 days a week and pin in the AM. Before this blood test I had pinned 3 IU. Blood was drawn 3 hours later. I know there is a BIG argument about doing an IGF1 test vs growth serum tests to validate if what you have is HGH. Several folks including an endro I talked to said to just do the growth serum as if there was a high concentration of HGH even at 3IU it should be elevated. I wasn't testing to find out how my body converts it into IGF1 etc. Just wanted to see if it works. My labs are attached. Would be great with some help to interpret. Seems low to me. I am not going to take 10IU a day to try and replicate Pharm.

Growth Hormone, Serum Growth Hormone,
Serum 1.2 0.0-10.0 ng/mL

I'd be interested in a better breakdown from someone who understands the gh numbers as well. But I'd say you should start running caber in the meantime for those prolactin levels. Just my two cents though.

 

[Sdryx]

I got my blood tests back this morning. Usually I get them back in 7 days. I have been pinning the VERMOTROPIN HGH 100IU - VERMODJE for almost 4 weeks now. Stared at 2IU and worked my way up to 3UI a day. I do 5 days a week and pin in the AM. Before this blood test I had pinned 3 IU. Blood was drawn 3 hours later. I know there is a BIG argument about doing an IGF1 test vs growth serum tests to validate if what you have is HGH. Several folks including an endro I talked to said to just do the growth serum as if there was a high concentration of HGH even at 3IU it should be elevated. I wasn't testing to find out how my body converts it into IGF1 etc. Just wanted to see if it works. My labs are attached. Would be great with some help to interpret. Seems low to me. I am not going to take 10IU a day to try and replicate Pharm.

Growth Hormone, Serum Growth Hormone,
Serum 1.2 0.0-10.0 ng/mL

What were your pre HGH cycle blood test numbers?

 

[MNIRON]

What were your pre HGH cycle blood test numbers?

Growth Hormone, Serum Growth Hormone,
Serum (1.0) 0.0-10.0 ng/mL

1.0 vs 1.2. I would have thought with the 3IU I should have been towards 10 NG. I am not saying anything about the HGH. I frankly don't know enough of what should be a higher level or not. I also know not everyone isn't as sensitive as others. I am considering buying a dose of pharm and comparing...just so I know.

 

[MNIRON]

I'd be interested in a better breakdown from someone who understands the gh numbers as well. But I'd say you should start running caber in the meantime for those prolactin levels. Just my two cents though.

Agreed. My prolacatin level has stayed the same since even before starting TRT in September of 2016. It hasn't moved at all even adding compounds. I have caber on hand. Just not sure if I should mess with Caber if my levels have not moved.

 

[Smeegle]

Agreed. My prolacatin level has stayed the same since even before starting TRT in September of 2016. It hasn't moved at all even adding compounds. I have caber on hand. Just not sure if I should mess with Caber if my levels have not moved.

They seem high couldn't hurt to get them down a bit. Don't want to mess with gyno its a pita. I normally run if I feel nip sensitivity or if blood comes back with high levels. Maybe .25mg 2x a week since they aren't sky high.

 

[MNIRON]

They seem high couldn't hurt to get them down a bit. Don't want to mess with gyno its a pita. I normally run if I feel nip sensitivity or if blood comes back with high levels. Maybe .25mg 2x a week since they aren't sky high.

I am thinking the same. I will start it tonight.

 

[HIGHRISK]

@ANABOLIC/ENERGY did you or will you ever get 10ml vials of Balkan test?

 

[insertnamehere]

They seem high couldn't hurt to get them down a bit. Don't want to mess with gyno its a pita. I normally run if I feel nip sensitivity or if blood comes back with high levels. Maybe .25mg 2x a week since they aren't sky high.

I personally wouldn't mess with my dopamine out of fear for prolactin induced gyno. A better solution would be to control E2 from the start.

Search this forum for prolactin induced gyno and see what you come up with.

 

[MNIRON]

I personally wouldn't mess with my dopamine out of fear for prolactin induced gyno. A better solution would be to control E2 from the start.

Search this forum for prolactin induced gyno and see what you come up with.

I have NO Gyno signs. My Estroidal is in normal range and I feel good. I will keep an eye on it.

 

[MNIRON]

So @ANABOLIC/ENERGY any thoughts here? Any suggestions? I am not saying anything negative yet. But it seems as though the HGH is under dosed or bunk. Suggestions on a different way to verify? Different blood test? Should I just take more of it to finish this To off since it maybe way underdosed? Should I toss it?

 

[Jayhgh]

So @ANABOLIC/ENERGY any thoughts here? Any suggestions? I am not saying anything negative yet. But it seems as though the HGH is under dosed or bunk. Suggestions on a different way to verify? Different blood test? Should I just take more of it to finish this To off since it maybe way underdosed? Should I toss it?

Man that sucks i was expecting something better.....
I think you should at least have gotten 2.5 if the hgh were really good.
On the other hand you should maybe also take your bloods 2 hours and 4 hours after pinning, because i read that some bodys process hgh with different speeds.
Well the 4 hours isn t necessary but the 2 hours might be.

 

[Jayhgh]

Also did you pin t4 or t3
recently?

 

[Smeegle]

I personally wouldn't mess with my dopamine out of fear for prolactin induced gyno. A better solution would be to control E2 from the start.

Search this forum for prolactin induced gyno and see what you come up with.

That would be the preferred pre thought to control e2 but in this case that ship seems to have sailed already. Not letting them get high to begin with is always the better idea, but so is not getting in a car accident. But sometimes shit happens though. So based on current info (meaning I don't know his full cycle) I stand behind the caber idea to treat the prolactin levels. Average male prolactin levels are 2-18 ng/ml, depending on his off cycle levels even conservatively he is almost double over possibly even more. Would need to see off cycle post pct bloods.

 

[ANABOLIC/ENERGY]

So @ANABOLIC/ENERGY any thoughts here? Any suggestions? I am not saying anything negative yet. But it seems as though the HGH is under dosed or bunk. Suggestions on a different way to verify? Different blood test? Should I just take more of it to finish this To off since it maybe way underdosed? Should I toss it?

I'm not an expert at this and I would like some more input from some more experienced Meso members here.I do know a lot prefer a test to see the levels of igf when doing bloodwork For hgh.Is that the better method I am not the one to say.Personally I use peptides and pulse my own hgh as I'm still chicken to suppress my own natty hgh but each person is different as I abuse Aas more than likely.But yes some more input would be great.

Also besides the bloodwork if you feel physically it's doing nothing for you then we will replace it with something of same value for you.You are our first tester of this brand of hgh for us so Thankyou for posting your results.

Let me know your thoughts and also any experienced people please chime in.