ANABOLIC/ENERGY MESO PROMO

Well my man mentioning labs is not a problem. However, plugging a lab or saying their name in another sources thread is a tad disrespectful bud. So I mean to each their own do what you do. I believe less flak would come if we did so in a blank labeled forum that is not a good sources thread who helps people out as well as myself. So i respect @ the tsl an thats all there is too it my man
 
Just kidding bro. you're alrite.

Hey idk the other lab pareto, but anyways what drugs affected your ground game? Positive was EQ. Negative for me is any dose of Tren. It fucking kills my cardio man. I tried rolling 1 day after a 100mg injection of tren ace. I couldn't breathe i thought i was dying. I do so much cardio too. Just curious what positively effected or negative effects on your bjj,wrestling, and judo etc. Thanks my man.
Basically I was on test and tbol for most of my cycle. Cardio stayed about the same. Maybe got a little worse. I had heard test alone raises your hematocrit, so I expected a little boost, but got nothing really. Grapping partner said I was the strongest 185lber he's ever grappled with so that felt good.
On tren and npp, cardio is down the toilet and my flexibility sucks. In the future I will avoid orals altogether, and just do EQ + test like everyone told me to do in the first place :p
 
Ya bud run
Eq 800mgs a wk
Test C 500mgs a wk
Deca for the benys an lean muscle at 300 to 400 mgs a wk.
Shit i throw in Mast P last 6 weeks
Wk 6-9 600mgs a wk
10-12 800mgs a wk.

Shit if you can afford it
Test
Deca
Primo is a fun one.
But my fav is what I just started
The one I stayed above. Deca,test C,EQ,an finish with Mast.
 
Just kidding bro. you're alrite.

Basically I was on test and tbol for most of my cycle. Cardio stayed about the same. Maybe got a little worse. I had heard test alone raises your hematocrit, so I expected a little boost, but got nothing really. Grapping partner said I was the strongest 185lber he's ever grappled with so that felt good.
On tren and npp, cardio is down the toilet and my flexibility sucks. In the future I will avoid orals altogether, and just do EQ + test like everyone told me to do in the first place :p
I must say I do love npp and tren.

What was your dosages champ?
Eod or ed injections?
 
I must say I do love npp and tren.

What was your dosages champ?
Eod or ed injections?


Hey brother what's your idea on dose ing npp compared to deca? The same if i run 400mgs of deca i would do Eod of npp at 100mgs an the main benys is just shorter easter ,quicker gains but still the same?
An you guys haven't had any problem with mixing Nandrolones because i have had guys not under stand 400mgs a deca a week an 300 of tren is 700mgs of nadralone a week an completely fuck their libido. I just for me anyways and my goals would never mix the 2. Well I say never but it's very highly unlikely that I would ever consider it to be a better alternative to the cycles an doses in which I've dialed in. Now knowing how my body responds to each knowing the sweet spots for me an my overall max limits on each compound. Only one I haven't pushed high as most would is tren ace because do to my cardio effects it had. I couldn't justify the means to run it. Don't get me wrong im not bashing tren just right now i know its not for me is all. However I am curious on the dosing protocol on the tren,deca, or npp stacking. Also what orals did you run etc..
 
Well my man mentioning labs is not a problem. However, plugging a lab or saying their name in another sources thread is a tad disrespectful bud. So I mean to each their own do what you do. I believe less flak would come if we did so in a blank labeled forum that is not a good sources thread who helps people out as well as myself. So i respect @ the tsl an thats all there is too it my man


My bad guys i thought this was the TSL thread! Sorry didn't mean to mention that name on someone else's page. I truly thought it was his thread. I'm sorry guys. My bad
 
I must say I do love npp and tren.

What was your dosages champ?
Eod or ed injections?
test/tren/npp/dbol
500/400/400/50

I pussed out and went EOD instead of ED. Its just a quick 5 week blast right at the end of my (supposedly) test/tbol cycle.
 
Ya bud run
Eq 800mgs a wk
Test C 500mgs a wk
Deca for the benys an lean muscle at 300 to 400 mgs a wk.
Shit i throw in Mast P last 6 weeks
Wk 6-9 600mgs a wk
10-12 800mgs a wk.

Shit if you can afford it
Test
Deca
Primo is a fun one.
But my fav is what I just started
The one I stayed above. Deca,test C,EQ,an finish with Mast.
Deca for lean muscle? Deca makes you hold a tonne of water doesnt it?

Yeah I'm going ~400 test and 600EQ at first to see how I go. If I get a wicked cardio boost, then I won't even up it. I'll do it for 6 months, go to the next grading, get my brown belt in Judo and then PCT. What will the primo do?
 
Deca for lean muscle? Deca makes you hold a tonne of water doesnt it?

Yeah I'm going ~400 test and 600EQ at first to see how I go. If I get a wicked cardio boost, then I won't even up it. I'll do it for 6 months, go to the next grading, get my brown belt in Judo and then PCT. What will the primo do?


It doesn't for me brother. I run low deca at 300 to 400 a wk. An have zero water weight. I run arom. An then caber once every 4 days. I have had zero problems an running it with Mast or primo for me makes me harden up an hold lean muscle no water. An get the benys from both worlds my man. Joint relief gain clean mass an keep most of it. It's not a sloppy cycle. That's just maybe me tho my absolute fav. Is
Adrol 25mgs a day 4 weeks.
Test C 500mgs wk 1-12
Deca 300 to 400 for 1-12
Start Mast E the same time run it 1-12.
Or Mast P Eod at 800mgs a wk for 6-12.
On Mast E i start at 800mgs for 6 then go down a lil. But I have yet to gain sloppy unwanted weight plus my veins pop haha dick veins are crazy girl loves it. Also get super harden up with great great strength increase.
I run my AI an caber allong with a full cycle support with tudca,nac,krill oil,muti vitamin..etc.
But shit maybe it's just me but I'm your size as well an a lagit 5-7 % bf. An the Mast for me or primo i run with every cycle now. It's just one of my favs. And or EQ.
 
It doesn't for me brother. I run low deca at 300 to 400 a wk. An have zero water weight. I run arom. An then caber once every 4 days. I have had zero problems an running it with Mast or primo for me makes me harden up an hold lean muscle no water. An get the benys from both worlds my man. Joint relief gain clean mass an keep most of it. It's not a sloppy cycle. That's just maybe me tho my absolute fav. Is
Adrol 25mgs a day 4 weeks.
Test C 500mgs wk 1-12
Deca 300 to 400 for 1-12
Start Mast E the same time run it 1-12.
Or Mast P Eod at 800mgs a wk for 6-12.
On Mast E i start at 800mgs for 6 then go down a lil. But I have yet to gain sloppy unwanted weight plus my veins pop haha dick veins are crazy girl loves it. Also get super harden up with great great strength increase.
I run my AI an caber allong with a full cycle support with tudca,nac,krill oil,muti vitamin..etc.
But shit maybe it's just me but I'm your size as well an a lagit 5-7 % bf. An the Mast for me or primo i run with every cycle now. It's just one of my favs. And or EQ.
Oh I see, fair enough. Thats a good plan. I'm used to folks running this shit at like 800 like its some sort of competition to see how much deca they can inject into their body without dying.
Holy shit, 5-7% bf? no wonder you like mast and primo. You're made for it.
 
Oh I see, fair enough. Thats a good plan. I'm used to folks running this shit at like 800 like its some sort of competition to see how much deca they can inject into their body without dying.
Holy shit, 5-7% bf? no wonder you like mast and primo. You're made for it.

Hey thats where I believe guys really fuck up and give deca a bad name. Shit i can use it and still drop bf an gain massive size. But I dont run it high to gain sloppy fucking weight i will just loose. Wether you run it at 4 or 8. The gains you keep depending on diet and training are the same only thing different is the terrible side effects an feeling after you come off. I love deca, masteron,primo, and EQ. I will run a 16 week cycle after this one with primo at 600 to 800 mgs a wk with test C an deca. Still see great size,joint relief,strength gains, and overall well being.when i go 16 weeks I drop the deca to 200 to 300 mgs a week for 16
Kick start with 50mgs of tbol first 3 weeks then up it to 60 or 65 the last 3 weeks. Also one of my absolute fav. Cycles.
Shit brother you an I are made for lean muscle an great lean muscle gains. If your 185. Then we are the same size. If i bulk i go to 195/8ish. Then kinda cut down to 190ish and still ripped as fuck with zero bloating an that terrible round look people think deca makes you have. It's simple just not true its all with how you run it and what with my man. Atleast for me it is i could be different idk. I'm 6 ft an 1 half in. walk around weight of 183 to 5. Get up to 8 or 9% sometimes but even when that happens real Bayer primo amps and real Mast is my best friend. I'm in love with them magic oils my man ;)
 
Nice, thats good advice, although I am very different to you body comp wise. I am about 15% bf, a very very far cry from 5-8. You only gain 10lbs per cycle? Damn you do like it lean. I've gone from 174 to 194 on this cycle and I'm a bit bloated, especially around the midsection (I'm slooowly increasing my AI to avoid crashing my estro). You'd probably neck yourself if you had my body right now haha. But I'm more into suplexing dudes than looking dry. I am interested in the joint relief deca provides though. I am getting none on NPP. My shoulders still hurt like hell. I will definitely try low dose deca though. Thankyou for the info!

Sorry anabolic energy for hijacking your thread lol.
 
Nice, thats good advice, although I am very different to you body comp wise. I am about 15% bf, a very very far cry from 5-8. You only gain 10lbs per cycle? Damn you do like it lean. I've gone from 174 to 194 on this cycle and I'm a bit bloated, especially around the midsection (I'm slooowly increasing my AI to avoid crashing my estro). You'd probably neck yourself if you had my body right now haha. But I'm more into suplexing dudes than looking dry. I am interested in the joint relief deca provides though. I am getting none on NPP. My shoulders still hurt like hell. I will definitely try low dose deca though. Thankyou for the info!

Sorry anabolic energy for hijacking your thread lol.


Nah man shit i might try one of the days to go up to a 205lber shit who knows. Right now i just am happy with being as strong as those guys and man handling them with a smaller lean body with actual showing muscle haha. An hey thanks my man. I bet you would really enjoy it. If your around 15% your right at the cap of wether or not to run Mast. Id defiantly get lagit stuff and rep it in or the last bit through in Winny and see those changes my friend! Curious do you get super hungry cravings like all day long! When you run EQ? Maybe just me because I have a super high metabolism but after like week 2 or 3 i begin to feel starved and have to eat or my body aches like a mofo. Unless I'm running a oral that suppresses my appetite. Just curious if it is just me or if other guys around my weight exp. That as well.
 
O okay gotcha man well be ready for the EQ hunger haha. I take BJJ,Akijitsu,and Judo. I have a few guys i roll with have for years who have thought me just overall grecko Roman and free style wrestling since they were collegiate athletes. I love rolling now more then ever. I started with the Korean art of the way of hand and fist. To me it's more so for just sport. So I got my black belt and moved into a more serious realistic art. I also like G.S.T training as well its a more real life scenario play by play. Then doing moves inside where you throw half speed and power an drill that shit burn pathways in the brain. An if you get into a fight allot of guys are used to it an throw a strike then stop at contact. To me that's the worst way to train. It should be full speed, 50% power if the guy or girl doesn't move or block that's on them not you. Maybe just me though. I finally found a great gym that I rep 3x a week for 3hours with a group of about 7 in one class, 24 in one, and 16 in another. So I constantly get different looks and angles. I really enjoy that challenge. I'm way better and more comfortable on my feet throwing hands and kicking heads then i am level changing an shooting in to grapple. I prefer to stand find my range and exchange. If it goes down then so be it i work more on defense steady base, hip work, weight manipulation, rubber guard, and butterfly. Do t get me wrong i still like wrapping these rope arms around someones neck an feel their bodys give out haha. I know that's wrong but I'm controlled yet to hurt anyone yet. Knock on wood!! :/
 
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