Anavar no bueno?

I don’t know. But it was from Cat Cafe and of course their Janoshik said oxandralone and everything and people say it was real. I might just go pharma because I don’t really know about all this UGL stuff. I haven’t tested it but honestly, I don’t care so much what it is as long as it works and doesn’t cause side effects. I know that sounds strange to some of you but honestly thats all we are looking for out of this.
FWIW, I’ve only ever used catcafe anavar and real compounded anavar from a pharmacy. Didn’t notice any discernible difference between the two
 
FWIW, I’ve only ever used catcafe anavar and real compounded anavar from a pharmacy. Didn’t notice any discernible difference between the two
Do you think if I try a lower dose it would be better? I took 50mg/day. I’m thinking I would still feel like shit but not as bad.
 
Maybe you felt like shit cos of the higher dose, always start lower n work your way up when trying a new compound or from a place you don’t usually order from (plus ain’t cat cafe taken down? I thought they got busted or sumn?)
 
How much water do you drink? Are you in good health? Do you take any liver support? Was your anavar HPLC tested? This would give me better context to try to answer your question.
 
Maybe you felt like shit cos of the higher dose, always start lower n work your way up when trying a new compound or from a place you don’t usually order from (plus ain’t cat cafe taken down? I thought they got busted or sumn?)
I got it before it got taken down.
 
How much water do you drink? Are you in good health? Do you take any liver support? Was your anavar HPLC tested? This would give me better context to try to answer your question.
Ya I’m good in all that category. You can look at my bloodwork on Goodlyfe’s page. Cat Cafe had a great reputation and they did have apparently legit Oxandralone tested by Janoshik. I didn’t test the bottle myself but I think it just doesn’t agree with me. I just tried 25mg and same thing. I’ll have to try some other things. I will probably do better with injectables. But I’ll try probably try Winstrol next. Sounds like it’s calling me.
 
@JackHoffman

Anytime I have experienced this with orals or Tren there is always an issue with kidneys, liver or gallbladder.. I dont know where you are based, but if you can get an MRI scan done easy enough go for it and make sure nothing is underlying in these organs.. Was there any digestion issues with what you did eat.. Puking, heartburn etc?

I have a large gallstone and hemangiomas in the liver.. It was only after been sent for a scan all of this came to light
 
@JackHoffman

Anytime I have experienced this with orals or Tren there is always an issue with kidneys, liver or gallbladder.. I dont know where you are based, but if you can get an MRI scan done easy enough go for it and make sure nothing is underlying in these organs.. Was there any digestion issues with what you did eat.. Puking, heartburn etc?

I have a large gallstone and hemangiomas in the liver.. It was only after been sent for a scan all of this came to light
Ya I don’t know. Its the first oral I ever tried. So i will probably start by trying another one first. I never get heartburn. I had to ask people to find out what it was. I don’t puke. But I am semi lactose intolerant and avoid beans and stuff like that. I can have whey protein just not with milk. I can have some milk or some beans it’s just gross if I have too much. I think it’s pretty normal though.
 
I mean a pretty good rule of thumb is if your stomach is being affected, the oral is probably legit. I have to take omeprazole and other supplements to mitigate symptoms with orals. There’s no such thing as a compound without any side effect. Now you can lower the dose or increase said supplements to mitigate affects, now do some people have zero side effects with orals, absolutely. It’s a game of playing seesaw with doses sometimes to see what works with your body and what doesn’t
 
Ya im done with this one for now. It didnt really affect my stomach too much. Just lowered my appetite. It was basically all the symptoms of liver toxicity after taking it for only a few days. And I know Anavar is different in that it is mostly processed by the kidneys. But I had all those symptoms of slightly red burning eyes, lethargy, fatique, loss of appetite. Just feeling crappy mainly. Headaches. Slight nausea. Difficulty sleeping. Even 25mg after one day. It’s a no go. It might be like this with all orals. If thats the case I won’t be taking orals.
 
It’s your first cycle man, no need to complicate things. Titrate your testosterone up to 500mg/week and run for 16 weeks. If you really enjoy it and can tolerate it, start planning your 2nd run afterwards.
Enjoy the gains and quality of life that testosterone can simply do!
 
Ya im done with this one for now. It didnt really affect my stomach too much. Just lowered my appetite. It was basically all the symptoms of liver toxicity after taking it for only a few days. And I know Anavar is different in that it is mostly processed by the kidneys. But I had all those symptoms of slightly red burning eyes, lethargy, fatique, loss of appetite. Just feeling crappy mainly. Headaches. Slight nausea. Difficulty sleeping. Even 25mg after one day. It’s a no go. It might be like this with all orals. If thats the case I won’t be taking orals.
I don't want to doubt you, but it sounds psychosomatic.

I've had this happen to me before, so I understand this situation.

It's not the Anavar. Maybe you should try it again with a fresh head.
 
Been taking Anavar since the 90s. Never once could I tell from a single dosing of Anavar anything at all. Any time in my life I have taken something on top of testosterone, I am already in incredible fitness and working my ass off. To be completely honest, when stacking things on top of testosterone I am most worried about injuries from over exertion, this becomes even more important when it is an oral. Anavar was in my system when I tore my bicep and my pec. Not saying the Anavar did it but am pointing out that the Anavar is not the main drug in my system affecting me when I take it.

But hey that is why I like science. Testing is cool.
 
Been taking Anavar since the 90s. Never once could I tell from a single dosing of Anavar anything at all. Any time in my life I have taken something on top of testosterone, I am already in incredible fitness and working my ass off. To be completely honest, when stacking things on top of testosterone I am most worried about injuries from over exertion, this becomes even more important when it is an oral. Anavar was in my system when I tore my bicep and my pec. Not saying the Anavar did it but am pointing out that the Anavar is not the main drug in my system affecting me when I take it.

But hey that is why I like science. Testing is cool.
Ya is there a good test kit I could get? It would be cool. I hear Winstrol is bad for joints or something. Like it dries up your joints and makes you stiff. But usually people are cutting on it so maybe thats why. Otherwise i hear it’s great for strength. Then theres pretty much Anadrol, Dball and Superdrol for size snd strength.
 
So on 20mg Dianabol a day I started to get on and off stomach pain and pain in the lower right abdomen, not my liver because bloods were fine at week 6 and it was lower, the large intestine I believe. Started after 4 weeks. I took it for 6.

Is that quite typical with orals?
Did u take it on empty stomach?
 
Correct. I would not.
I want my manufacturer to understand the chemical names and know what they are putting in my products.

My stanozolol bottle says stanozolol.

My nandrolone vial had nandrolone.

Oxandrolone, testosterone, etc.
What is a safe source for Oxandrolone…my biggest fear is getting fake shit. Not because of getting ripped off as much a putting toxic shit in my body. thanks
 
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What is a safe source for Oxandrolone…my biggest fear is getting fake shit. Not because of getting ripped off as much a putting toxic shit in my body. thanks

Oxandrolone is not safe. Take your time and post your intro. Be careful what you wish for. Even quality, high purity oxandrolone comes with risks.
 
i have some var from "Dragon Pharma" has anyone used var from this source? i wonder if its the real deal? Can anyone please let me know? tia
 
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