Anavar vs Primo vs masteron

[Pinnacle Elements]

We don't end threads for no reason here, unless it's old or too much unnecessary fighting going on or if it becomes completely off topic and unproductive. Besides we didn't even drift away from the topic itself yet.

Once again, the answer is Primo is the healthiest (better to say has the best safty profile) of these 3 compounds

 

[Mishka]

AFAIK it would be Primo - but Primo is often just Masteron with a Primo label on it... plus it is v expensive and hard to get (at least what I heard)

I did never do Primo myself, I just use masteron.
Also I do try to stay away from orals, if possible

 

[Brosius]

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAUf5VjDaQ4&t=1177s&ab_channel=Dr.ToddLee%27sAnabolicUniversity


This is probably the best discussion about the difference between Primo and Masteron. They are different compunds. Primo is like a more anabolic less androgenic DHT plus an AI. Masteron is like a more anabolic less androgenic DHT plus a SERM.

In some situation using both could also be the best option. The goal should be managing E2 and estrogenic side effects without utilizing any external drug (arimidex, aromasin, raloxifen, tamoxifen, etc.).

Everyone should find his own perfect combination of Test Primo and Mast for both cycle and trt (for TRT micro-doses ofc).

 

[Pinnacle Elements]

AFAIK it would be Primo - but Primo is often just Masteron with a Primo label on it... plus it is v expensive and hard to get (at least what I heard)

I did never do Primo myself, I just use masteron.
Also I do try to stay away from orals, if possible

maybe a decade ago when lab testing wasn’t available. Primo is readily available and easy to obtain now. I use Primo continuously.

 

[ATWAR]

Yes, it is allowed of course. I should've been more clear, I meant:

Masteron enanthate vs propionate.

Diffrence is i dont run long esters. At all.
I use them sometimes for experiment but not if i dont have to why Bold U when you got Bold P.

test p and mast p, you can recomp i few weeks, if you get sides you can adjust the dose and adapt really quick.

I use mast p as part of TRT more then off, i really like fast esters, you cange almost daily if you look shitty like i do now, just getting back in.

I would go for mast p, ent is not as exciting and some people run it so high, expensive... I just dont get it. If you run test e, mast e makes sense, sure but still boring.

 

[HB_22]

AFAIK it would be Primo - but Primo is often just Masteron with a Primo label on it... plus it is v expensive and hard to get (at least what I heard)

I did never do Primo myself, I just use masteron.
Also I do try to stay away from orals, if possible

You must be new here. It's been a long time since primo was faked.


On topic: if fat loss is the goal then anavar is likely the number 1 steroid here, as there's multiple studies showing that anavar effectivly reduced visceral body fat and overall body fat and it increased T3 (which in a long diet goes to shit).

 

[poolshockguy]

What is benefits of mast p. Isn't it just for cutting

 

[jankoch]

t and it increased T3 (which in a long diet goes to shit).

T3 is converted from T4. Is it a possibility that it depletes t4 so you might get a rebound effect stopping var?

 

[lukiss96]

Safest option - Primobolan (arguably).

Best option - Anavar (stronger and more potent steroid, less expensive).

 

[HB_22]

T3 is converted from T4. Is it a possibility that it depletes t4 so you might get a rebound effect stopping var?

I don't think so because the 6-8 weeks that you take anavar for is likely not enough time.

 

[Soni]

AFAIK it would be Primo - but Primo is often just Masteron with a Primo label on it... plus it is v expensive and hard to get (at least what I heard)

I did never do Primo myself, I just use masteron.
Also I do try to stay away from orals, if possible

Yea seems like we got a German Member here, they often think they know the rules hahaha.

But to kind you a little bit, yea ofc ALL primos are fake kid

 

[Mishka]

lol... I said "AFAIK" - I said "often" - and according to your orthography you, my friend, do come from germany too (; ...

also I am not sure, what you mean by "they often think they know the rules"

IME it is pretty hard to get your hands on real primo - at least where I live.

 

[Ikarus11]

I have taken anavar and I'm on TRT 200mg.
I know anavar is rougher on kidneys than liver specifically since it's a oral bur my question is if primo or masteron would be more wise to build lean tissue without direct kidney effects. I know they all are not ideal but there are "safer" steroids that can be used. Like anavar is definitely less toxic than drol.

Primo. Read up on its history, development etc. All available on PubMed. As far as healthy.. Primo will increase your immune system function. Given its original intent for severely immunocomprimised patients who were in end stage AIDS. This is as gentle an exogenous agent as you will find. That said, the trade off is in gains. You'll Only get a few lbs of lean muscle mass of primo. But Imo that's worth it. And they're keepable

 

[29trt]

Primo. Read up on its history, development etc. All available on PubMed. As far as healthy.. Primo will increase your immune system function. Given its original intent for severely immunocomprimised patients who were in end stage AIDS. This is as gentle an exogenous agent as you will find. That said, the trade off is in gains. You'll Only get a few lbs of lean muscle mass of primo. But Imo that's worth it. And they're keepable

IDK about that immune function increase, I highly doubt it.... those Aids patients were not on 1g of test and 500mg of primo )

 

[mae_geri]

What is the healthy choice with good muscle building effects. I know these are all cutting products but everything can be used to build.

Anavar or
Primo or masteron.


I've used anavar but the whole process threw kidney has me on fence about it. Kidney isn't as forgivable as liver is.

I had lower back pumps with var (50mg/daily). After I switched to Mast. a lot worked better for me, even the training. Sex Drive went up as hell.....

 

[LittleBigManDaddy]

Mast and Primo are about equal in everything. Mast at high dosages is a little worse than Primo w/r/t lipids and PSA, but not at the doses you’d be using alongside TRT. Primo is a bit worse w/r/t hematocrit levels. Even though primo is more expensive, at these low doses it really is a wash there too. Anavar is much harsher on lipids.

I’m talking 20mg/day for each here. Once you go up a bit, things can change.

 

[poolshockguy]

Mast and Primo are about equal in everything. Mast at high dosages is a little worse than Primo w/r/t lipids and PSA, but not at the doses you’d be using alongside TRT. Primo is a bit worse w/r/t hematocrit levels. Even though primo is more expensive, at these low doses it really is a wash there too. Anavar is much harsher on lipids.

I’m talking 20mg/day for each here. Once you go up a bit, things can change.

20mg of anavar or each?

 

[LittleBigManDaddy]

20mg of anavar or each?

20 mg Anavar vs 20mg/day mast vs 20mg/day primo. Noting, of course, that the ester is going to take up space in the latter two. IMO, the only one with deleterious effects at that level is var, and it isn’t horrible.

 

[cmK9s33]

Primo. Read up on its history, development etc. All available on PubMed. As far as healthy.. Primo will increase your immune system function. Given its original intent for severely immunocomprimised patients who were in end stage AIDS. This is as gentle an exogenous agent as you will find. That said, the trade off is in gains. You'll Only get a few lbs of lean muscle mass of primo. But Imo that's worth it. And they're keepable

If you are sick and use it in doses prescribed (<100mg/wk) then yes it has a documented positive effect on immune function. If you’re healthy and use 500+ mg/wk then it’s unlikely to produce any positive effect on immune function. Not impossible but not likely.

 

[musclesiege]

It really depends on the person honestly. Start at a low dose and titrate up and see how you feel and progress. Good keep going, bad then drop it. Mast at lower doses for me was OK, higher dose caused shedding. My body responded great to anavar with testosterone as I added muscle and dropped fat, a lot of it. My lipids were fine when I had bloods done on week 6 of taking both last 6 weeks of cycle.