Another damn raws supplier thread!!!!

I tried emailing them for a price list, but never got a response.
Pharmade was one of the raw suppliers MW/Voodoo used or was going to use for primo raws, from Eva I believe.

How do you guys decide on who to use? I been looking everywhere and have viewed 100's of sources from made in china, ec21, alibaba, reddit, here, everywhere. But everyone I find good things it seems there is always something bad that puts doubt in my mind and I can't pull the trigger.

Have you guys seen that kylin raws guy that posted on evolution and reddit? He came out and seemed to do it right but if it is good that can change. I wish it was easier but I am so ocd and always want the best possible. I bet I have been online searching for over 100 hours just in the last month.

Would you go with bruce? Hondachem?

Anyone public you guys can recommend? If you don't want to give up a private source I completely understand. I am a nobody around here and I'm OK with that can't change it and sure don't want to wait until I am more know to homebrew. But on the same hand I don't want to be ripped off. I have a good finished products source that I like just want to be able to do it cheaper and know for sure what is in my shit. I will try to send samples of everything I get off for testing ( if my testing source pans out) so I will try to contribute to the community that way.
 
How do you guys decide on who to use? I been looking everywhere and have viewed 100's of sources from made in china, ec21, alibaba, reddit, here, everywhere. But everyone I find good things it seems there is always something bad that puts doubt in my mind and I can't pull the trigger.

Have you guys seen that kylin raws guy that posted on evolution and reddit? He came out and seemed to do it right but if it is good that can change. I wish it was easier but I am so ocd and always want the best possible. I bet I have been online searching for over 100 hours just in the last month.

Would you go with bruce? Hondachem?

Anyone public you guys can recommend? If you don't want to give up a private source I completely understand. I am a nobody around here and I'm OK with that can't change it and sure don't want to wait until I am more know to homebrew. But on the same hand I don't want to be ripped off. I have a good finished products source that I like just want to be able to do it cheaper and know for sure what is in my shit. I will try to send samples of everything I get off for testing ( if my testing source pans out) so I will try to contribute to the community that way.

Sorry friend, I didn't want to give you the impression that I have any firsthand experience purchasing from Chinese raw suppliers, I only know about a lot of these suppliers because of the sources who use them and end up selling garbage products to their customers. Beyond that I can't really help much.

Bruce group was one of the raw suppliers Astro used, he eventually dropped Bruce and made a thread calling him out for selling bunk Mast raws I believe. Titan also used them and he sold shit products to members. Don't know anything about that other one you mentioned.

My theory is the majority of Chinese raw suppliers are of equally poor quality and there really is no concrete or reliable way to discern what the product quality from any supplier will be. It's a crap shoot.
 
How do you guys decide on who to use? I been looking everywhere and have viewed 100's of sources from made in china, ec21, alibaba, reddit, here, everywhere. But everyone I find good things it seems there is always something bad that puts doubt in my mind and I can't pull the trigger.

Have you guys seen that kylin raws guy that posted on evolution and reddit? He came out and seemed to do it right but if it is good that can change. I wish it was easier but I am so ocd and always want the best possible. I bet I have been online searching for over 100 hours just in the last month.

Would you go with bruce? Hondachem?

Anyone public you guys can recommend? If you don't want to give up a private source I completely understand. I am a nobody around here and I'm OK with that can't change it and sure don't want to wait until I am more know to homebrew. But on the same hand I don't want to be ripped off. I have a good finished products source that I like just want to be able to do it cheaper and know for sure what is in my shit. I will try to send samples of everything I get off for testing ( if my testing source pans out) so I will try to contribute to the community that way.

Lol, I was reading that and was like "When did I post this?" I've been digging for over a month myself and can't find anyone that can be stood behind.
 
How do you guys decide on who to use? I been looking everywhere and have viewed 100's of sources from made in china, ec21, alibaba, reddit, here, everywhere. But everyone I find good things it seems there is always something bad that puts doubt in my mind and I can't pull the trigger.

Have you guys seen that kylin raws guy that posted on evolution and reddit? He came out and seemed to do it right but if it is good that can change. I wish it was easier but I am so ocd and always want the best possible. I bet I have been online searching for over 100 hours just in the last month.

Would you go with bruce? Hondachem?

Anyone public you guys can recommend? If you don't want to give up a private source I completely understand. I am a nobody around here and I'm OK with that can't change it and sure don't want to wait until I am more know to homebrew. But on the same hand I don't want to be ripped off. I have a good finished products source that I like just want to be able to do it cheaper and know for sure what is in my shit. I will try to send samples of everything I get off for testing ( if my testing source pans out) so I will try to contribute to the community that way.
MAo raws.the unicorn of raws but imposs.to get .unless u kno
w someone .suprise i do but cant
give out the actual raw supplier
email but the company thats
been around for awhile that
branched out with mao.uses
there raws they will be taking a
Mininimal of 20 to 30 new customers soon.I just got email last night.I just got outta work so there's a few guys here who already asked for the private source so u can message me if u want if give u info.on how it works.
 
We don't share sources with every one who shows up here for good reason.

If you put in the time and get to know members, you will find a source.

It has nothing to do with guys not wanting to help out. Safety is the main concern.
 
We don't share sources with every one who shows up here for good reason.

If you put in the time and get to know members, you will find a source.

It has nothing to do with guys not wanting to help out. Safety is the main concern.

I understand what you are saying. I really do. I also respect that. But on the same hand you want to put the scamming shit heads out of buisness but you will never be able to if people do not known who to order from.

I'm not asking for anyone's private source. Just the best public source possible. Plus I'm sure almost everyone's source they belive is private probably advertises somewhere be it a furom or a made in china site.

I realize I am nobody around here. I don't post a lot and never will. To many people that are more experienced and knowledgeable than I am. All I do is read for the most part. I have actually been lurking the furoms for awhile just never joined. I do wish I would have though so that I could possibly have a little more rep.

Once again I am not asking for a hand out just a little guidance. If I get more than that awesome. I just don't want to give some fucking dbag my hard earned money for shit powders. I'm sure you understand that. And I understand you don't want to give your source out. But of I was a cop what could I do to some China man selling shit from another country that the u.s. doesn't have a extradition treaty with?
 
Just FYI I guess I'm going to given redlion pharm a shot because that are the cheapest and at least I will get something. Will just have to send off for testing.
 
Just FYI I guess I'm going to given redlion pharm a shot because that are the cheapest and at least I will get something. Will just have to send off for testing.
I know these feelz. I looked at Kylin... might wanna hold out for some of the testing that is supposedly getting done on evo.
 
Just FYI I guess I'm going to given redlion pharm a shot because that are the cheapest and at least I will get something. Will just have to send off for testing.
Landmark Chem. It will be impure, but at least it's legit. I've ordered quite a bit from them. I tested the Primo Ace via GC/MS and it came back 78%. Not great, but it could've been a helluva lot worse. Just mass spec. the raws and brew accordingly and you'll have perfectly dosed gear.
 
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It just seems fishy to me. I have never bought raws before but I have a bad feeling about the guy. Who know maybe I will use him lol.
He claims 90% purity, which is a lower (and probably at least CLOSER to honest) representation of his product, as opposed to the 98-99% purity everyone else claims. Tell him you're gonna get HPLC/MS test done and you'll probably get some quality control.
 
Problem with Kylin's purity is he pulled that 90% number out of his ass. All true factories have quality control (testing) otherwise their legitimate customers would be really pissed off. Their bread and butter is set up for legit pharmaceutical products, but selling on the side isn't a bad thing profit wise.

Kylin is most definitely a middle man. Whether that's true or not remains to be seen. Who's to say he hasn't done it before under another name.
 
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